Thank you. That makes sense. M was saying last night she was never hugged or told “I love you” which is sad, her mother wouldn’t have had time to scratch herself.I believe they are Maori so probably family foster not through the government. My Nana often had a household full of cousins/family friends kids, anyone who needed a roof over their head would have a bed at Nana's even if it was a mattress on the floor! That's the old school Maori way! I remember 4 of us kids in 1 tiny small room during the school holidays! Plus Mos parents had 14 children of their own!