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stickytoffeepud

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It’s too late tonight for me to dive down the rabbit hole but I’ve just spotted a video on my YouTube suggestions where CSCR2 says Letby is a parent! Guess what I’m doing tomorrow!
 
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Apostate

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Mark Mcdonald will have access now he's taken over the case, wheter he is now free to show them to any potential expert witnesses?
My understanding is that there would need to be formal instruction of an expert - they can't just be shown to anyone who turns up at his office.
 
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Lucy Lou

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Do we think Sarah Knapton is a freemason? 😃

She states that Dr Gibb and Harkness were at a lot of the incidents but fails to mention the doctors appeared after the collapses. Dr Breary did a good job of explaining why Eirian's theories didn't make sense.
https://hfaf.org/#:~:text=Welcome%20to%20the%20website%20of%20HFAF%20Freemasonry%20for%20Women&text=It%20was%20founded%20in%201913,world's%20oldest%20secular%20fraternal%20societies.

Well there are women Freemasons.
 
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Bridgeofsighs

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Sounds like Baby O was killed by an incompetent doctor.



"If this had happened to me, I'd be unable to sleep at night knowing that what I had done had led to the death of a baby and now there is a nurse in jail." Neonatologist Dr Richard Taylor discusses a report he says he's read about Baby O.
 
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Auga

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Am thinking of Depp v Heard and the previous UK case, which was Depp v The Press. The reason Depp lost the UK case is because (my understanding so could be wrong) what the judge was considering (because you don't get a jury for libel), was, was the newspaper entitled to believe that what they had been told by Amber was true and print it because that is a defence I think - if you really believe it and the court judges that a reasonable person would also believe it based on being told the same things.
No, in that case the judge examined a series of incidents that Amber claimed. He concluded (under the civil standard of proof) that the majority of incidents had actually occurred, not just that it was reasonable for the newspaper to have believed Amber. The ruling is here: https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/depp-v-news-group-newspapers-ltd/
 
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jolt321

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I wonder if she was ever a drinker. Her post-it notes look like when I'd been drunk and thought I was writing something deep and meaningful, then woke up to find something barely legible.
There's plenty of pictures of her out on nights out and also mentions of prosecco on a wall slogan at her property if I remember rightly. She also mentioned drinking in her text messages.
 
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oldjamfan

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Why are Daily Fail so invested in Lucy Letby's "innocence"... they are at it every day.

Is it because she is "pretty" (I never really thought so, personally) and middle-class? There's always an agenda with them, am curious as to what it is here.
I wouldn’t describe her as pretty either. ‘Plain Jane’ maybe.
 
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Cosytidy

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Interesting article from a former Commissioner of the Criminal Cases Review Commission

Are you able to screenshot or get round the paywall please?
 
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What's your point

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I thought she had a suzuki splash, although I suppose it could have been her dad's car.
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Apparently the silver suzuki had an NHS permit so probably was Lucy's. She may well have a lying to Dr Noname about not having a car.
Sure I read Lucy's car was in for some repair work or something but don't quote me on that.
 
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Could there be any scope that they could be trying to goad him to do that? It would be a civil case for libel because it is recorded media I assume. If there is some legal technicality whereby Dr B didn't win, they would then crow that it proves something, which it wouldn't.

Am thinking of Depp v Heard and the previous UK case, which was Depp v The Press. The reason Depp lost the UK case is because (my understanding so could be wrong) what the judge was considering (because you don't get a jury for libel), was, was the newspaper entitled to believe that what they had been told by Amber was true and print it because that is a defence I think - if you really believe it and the court judges that a reasonable person would also believe it based on being told the same things.

I suppose I am crediting them with scheming intelligence that they may not possess.

I hope the police charge her for more soon.
I don’t think he could sue random people or the press purely based on it having been genuinely said as part of all the court proceedings and legal back and forth. Otherwise whenever there is a court case and the press report and then people comment on what is said as part of it they’d be liable to be sued. I suspect Letby’s lawyers and legal team are also protected to some extent otherwise anyone who ever had to defend anyone by using an argument blaming someone else would also be liable to be sued for it.

It absolutely sucks for Dr B that he’s being made the target of such hate though, he seems to be one of the truly good guys from the unit and no doubt that’s why they’re going after him with such malice.
 
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