Had to come to this thread. Seen that stoner was hanging about with cinders. Who at one point was having murders with Elsa frost. Tik tok has given a platform to some absolute dregs of society. There will be a documentary about all the misery tik tok has brought to people's lives, and how it's given a platform to these dregs.in a few years. I feel for Whitney kids , bet they wish their mum had never gone on the app. Brought nothing but misery to her and her kids lives. She's needs to come off and concentrate on her and her children. Highly doubt that would happen though. Cant stand male centred woman , my mum was always one. Does nothing but cause damage to the children in later years