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I can't abide her either and actually find everything about her repellent. :sick:
Me too. I groan every time I see her on a chat show. We’re still supposed to find her swearing and crudeness incredibly funny, just because she’s old and plummy, even though we’ve all seen it before.
 
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Every time she swore half the audience would roll about laughing, I just can’t see why that’s funny.
She ended doing two very very long monologues from Dickens as if she was auditioning in character. I tried to view it as a quiet couple of hours to rest my eyes.
 
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I got dragged to see Miriam Margolyes earlier this week and she was spouting trans support but it was very much in the ‘I think everyone should just be who they want to be’ vague statements designed to get a clap.
She was awful but I didn’t expect anything different.
I cant stand the bleep.
 
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If a male actor had said the kind of things about a woman that Miriam Margolyes had said about Laurence Olivier, then he would’ve been branded a total p and cancelled.
 
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If a male actor had said the kind of things about a woman that Miriam Margolyes had said about Laurence Olivier, then he would’ve been branded a total p and cancelled.
What? 😮

What did she say?

I think she's one of the most ghastly individuals - certainly on a par with Stephen Fry, and considerably more vulgar. I'm not a prude by any means, as anyone reading my posts could see, but she goes well over the line of decency.
 
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Can we attend in person. I'm off this week and was going into London on atleast 1 day anyway (also going to LWS Sunday if anyone else is going to be there)
 
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I don't think that the transman who wants to get pregnant winning the right to have a GRC is important. The SC ruling essentially renders the GRC meaningless. It was interesting during the hearing that the SC judges were very keen to understand what 'living as a woman' meant iro of men to women GRC applications. The Scottish Government barrister was obviously unable to give an answer. I felt that that really helped to show that in reality there is no difference between men identifying as women with a GRC and those without. And in turn, there is no difference between a man identifying as a woman and all other men. That was a big part of the SC saying that a piece of paper couldn't give some TiM greater rights, including that to be treated as women in all circumstances, than others.

UK courts have already ruled that a TiF who gives birth is still the mother of the child and not the father, even if they have a GRC. So, the courts have clearly established that a GRC does not represent a change of sex. This decision does not contradict that position in any way, despite what the fox-killer might be trying to suggest.

Let him have these wins: they are meaningless and don't change our most important victory.
 
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What is the process to be granted a GRC in the UK? Looks there’s a panel who review and subsequently approve or deny each application based on the evidence and supporting documentation provided. It seems you have to provide medical evidence and show proof you’ve been living as your preferred gender.
Yes, it costs £6 to apply and you have to satisfy the following requirements
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I hadn't realised this was coming up.

Fingers crossed.
I really really hope Allison Bailey gets justice.

It's a terrible shame that so much damage and destruction was caused to AB and so very many others are harmed and affected.

All of that because of the actions of one destructive sniping unhappy disturbed individual who laughably calls themselves an advocate who helps people gain fair treatment and defend against hate crimes. What KM did is deranged and hateful to AB.

Now the Stonewall / Galop house of cards has more or less collapsed, here's hoping this can be the final kick in the gut for their hypocrisy and hate. How's the health status working out for all their confused trans staff who were butchering themselves with surgery and hormones, KM included. Maybe it's the testosterone makes them want to go out suddenly dominating and attacking fellow women?

Justice for AB and financial recompense awarded I hope.
 
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bleeping hell, I hope the Darlington nurses tribunal kicks that predatory p they’ve been forced to share their changing room with to the kerb.
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ETA a reminder of what ‘Rose’ looks like
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Some weird American TV writer called Jill Weinberger is now attacking Keira Knightley for 'not caring about trans people'. Didn't take long for the bullies to come after Keira did it? I hope she maintains a dignified silence and ignores these idiots.

Now the TRAs are trying to sabotage filming of the new series. What absolute wankers these people are.
I fully expect when the series premieres and has some red carpet preview screening that some stunt will be pulled by TRAs. I hope they don't bully the child actors.
 
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”Chromosomal apartheid”. WTAF.
I know upthread, there was discussion about the end game being lowering the age of consent, and although I can certainly see this being one aim, I also think there is a push to take away any rights from women. I think there is a section of the male population that would like it if we had no rights at all. I don’t want to undress in front of men ( or anyone to be perfectly honest). Surely that’s my right to choose. It’s such a slippery slope. If women can’t say “no” due to chromosomal apartheid ( as in recognising what a man is) where does it end. The world is getting crazier and it’s vile.

Not wanting to go off topic, but above that post, there was another, commenting on an Imam in Birmingham discussing the correct way to stone a woman to death. The post was of course condemning it, but it’s another side to just how much certain sections of the population hate women. We’re really up against it, what with TRA ( and the traitors - the handmaidens), the woman hating incels and now accepting an imported religion with a horrendous attitude to women. It’s relentless and it’s depressing. The worst thing, we are half the population and yet there are women who think being a wet blanket “kind” is more important than our rights, our dignity and our safety.
 
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The media/social media are trying to manipulate the public into believing that the fundamentalist side of Islam is a holistic representation of Islam and its followers. Yes, it has its misogynistic bovva boys as do many fundamentalist sides of different religions, (including Christianity) which seek to control women. The ‘interpretation’ of how religions should be practised has historically been down to men, so they’re going to gear their practices to support their own interests.

My two best friends are second generation Pakistani immigrants who were brought up in the Muslim faith. They are both enlightened people who have daughters they would defend from religious misogyny. One of their mothers (now in her 80s) wanted to arrange a marriage for her daughter at 16, but her father said absolutely not and encouraged all his children to pursue an education and make their own choices in life.
 
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