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Anyone else want to Terf on the Carrie Hope Fletcher (sister to McFlys Tom) who donated money to Mermaids and has since had a baby girl. I’m guessing they’re all under 30 in age.

I’d love to know ‘so many GC threads’ on tattle - I thought it was just this one. Maybe the general consensus has shifted more than we thought. (Or us lot just get about a lot)
 
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I was at a wake yesterday and was sat on a table with the parents of a TIM. The conversation around the table was about someone who knew someone who disowned his son when he came out as gay, and then the mum of the TIM told us about their son and how he’s so much more comfortable now living as [female name]. The mum is clearly very supportive and loves her child. She showed me pictures, and he looked young and passable so I wondered if they’d transitioned pre-puberty, but didn’t think it polite to ask. The photos were also heavily edited though so hard to tell.

I did find myself conflicted because I was sat next to the mum, so she was mostly talking to me, and I really wasn’t sure what to say (the wake was for a family member of my partner, so I don’t know any of these people). I was polite and copied the pronouns she used (they/them). The conversation didn’t last long and I obviously wasn’t minded to start any drama, especially given the setting. I just felt sorry for the family as a whole tbh!

How do you all handle these situations when you encounter them irl?
 
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I've not been in that position so far, but I'd do as you did, smile, be polite and use the pronouns especially at a wake.
No good is going to come taking a stand there.
 
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I was at a wake yesterday and was sat on a table with the parents of a TIM. The conversation around the table was about someone who knew someone who disowned his son when he came out as gay, and then the mum of the TIM told us about their son and how he’s so much more comfortable now living as [female name]. The mum is clearly very supportive and loves her child. She showed me pictures, and he looked young and passable so I wondered if they’d transitioned pre-puberty, but didn’t think it polite to ask. The photos were also heavily edited though so hard to tell.

I did find myself conflicted because I was sat next to the mum, so she was mostly talking to me, and I really wasn’t sure what to say (the wake was for a family member of my partner, so I don’t know any of these people). I was polite and copied the pronouns she used (they/them). The conversation didn’t last long and I obviously wasn’t minded to start any drama, especially given the setting. I just felt sorry for the family as a whole tbh!

How do you all handle these situations when you encounter them irl?
I would not use the wrong pronouns. I'd probably avoid talking about the person altogether, or say I wasn't comfortable with the discussion.
 
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The insanity never ends:


One of the woman's points regarding not paying for her ex-husband's surgery out of their joint funds is that his decision to transition was the reason for the divorce, and yet the judge still believes that she should contribute. As for the ex-husband, he has the nerve to compare his transitioning to getting treatment for cancer.

Appalling decision.
 
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Pretending to be a woman is like cancer?
Shitting hell, these men will stop at nothing.
 
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I was at a wake yesterday and was sat on a table with the parents of a TIM. The conversation around the table was about someone who knew someone who disowned his son when he came out as gay, and then the mum of the TIM told us about their son and how he’s so much more comfortable now living as [female name]. The mum is clearly very supportive and loves her child. She showed me pictures, and he looked young and passable so I wondered if they’d transitioned pre-puberty, but didn’t think it polite to ask. The photos were also heavily edited though so hard to tell.

I did find myself conflicted because I was sat next to the mum, so she was mostly talking to me, and I really wasn’t sure what to say (the wake was for a family member of my partner, so I don’t know any of these people). I was polite and copied the pronouns she used (they/them). The conversation didn’t last long and I obviously wasn’t minded to start any drama, especially given the setting. I just felt sorry for the family as a whole tbh!

How do you all handle these situations when you encounter them irl?
Depends. I’m not going to try and cause upset to a small child that is being confused by their parents. But I will cut dead with a look and refuse to engage with said parents on the school run.

you did the right thing - it’s a wake and politeness is still a virtue.

So many people mistake politeness for weakness.
 
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The insanity never ends:


One of the woman's points regarding not paying for her ex-husband's surgery out of their joint funds is that his decision to transition was the reason for the divorce, and yet the judge still believes that she should contribute. As for the ex-husband, he has the nerve to compare his transitioning to getting treatment for cancer.

Appalling decision.
I love having reiki ...but would swerve that deluded greedy Muppet being anywhere near my zen.

1 million on legal fees 🫣
 
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I was at a wake yesterday and was sat on a table with the parents of a TIM. The conversation around the table was about someone who knew someone who disowned his son when he came out as gay, and then the mum of the TIM told us about their son and how he’s so much more comfortable now living as [female name]. The mum is clearly very supportive and loves her child. She showed me pictures, and he looked young and passable so I wondered if they’d transitioned pre-puberty, but didn’t think it polite to ask. The photos were also heavily edited though so hard to tell.

I did find myself conflicted because I was sat next to the mum, so she was mostly talking to me, and I really wasn’t sure what to say (the wake was for a family member of my partner, so I don’t know any of these people). I was polite and copied the pronouns she used (they/them). The conversation didn’t last long and I obviously wasn’t minded to start any drama, especially given the setting. I just felt sorry for the family as a whole tbh!

How do you all handle these situations when you encounter them irl?
I generally say as little as possible and try extricate myself from the conversation as soon as I can. I find it really stressful as I find it hard to feign agreement (or even neutrality), but I don’t want to offend someone and it’s not the time/place for an ideological rant.

I’m the same if someone starts talking to me about religion. I don’t want to shoot them down with “I think this is a load of made-up tit”, but I don’t want to pretend it’s something I find to be a reasonable belief 😬
 
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The insanity never ends:


One of the woman's points regarding not paying for her ex-husband's surgery out of their joint funds is that his decision to transition was the reason for the divorce, and yet the judge still believes that she should contribute. As for the ex-husband, he has the nerve to compare his transitioning to getting treatment for cancer.

Appalling decision.
Ffs. Once again I feel myself shouting THIS CAN'T BE bleeping REAL, and yet it is.
As the article states they are/were a very wealthy couple so presumably the wife has private medical care. By the same reasoning this judge should make the husband pay for half of her HRT, breast reconstruction if she had surgery for cancer treatment and Ozempic if she was overweight.
But obviously that would never happen 🙄
 
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All these court cases are such a waste of time and money. Once again it's men causing problems for women just wanting to have our own spaces.
Just duck off and do your thing in your own spot. Selfish people.
 
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All these court cases are such a waste of time and money. Once again it's men causing problems for women just wanting to have our own spaces.
Just duck off and do your thing in your own spot. Selfish people.
It bleeping grates me that there aren't enough jobs for newly qualified nurses due to funds and trusts spank money away on wasteful tit like this.

So many talented eager motivated nurses with 60k of debt and no job to go to. Shameful.
 
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The insanity never ends:


One of the woman's points regarding not paying for her ex-husband's surgery out of their joint funds is that his decision to transition was the reason for the divorce, and yet the judge still believes that she should contribute. As for the ex-husband, he has the nerve to compare his transitioning to getting treatment for cancer.

Appalling decision.
"Couldn't afford" to pay child maintenance, but spent thousands in a few months on clothes and tattoos? :mad:
 
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