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What a little mit! 😡

She wasn't being abusive. She only raised her voice (and even her raised voice wasn't a shout) because he was walking away from her. I hope this goes viral and the snotty little twit gets his backside handed to him on a plate. Though as it's M&S it's unlikely.

He may or may not be right about not having to provide single sex changing rooms*, but his attitude stinks!

*I find this very confusing - but as I understand it, in organisations like M&S where safety, dignity and privacy are factors, then the store should legally provide separate sex changing areas.
I'm pretty sure it's legal for M&S to have a unisex changing area for customers. I can't find information about the legality of the design though...surely they would have to have floor to ceiling walls like unisex loos?

But...it's not legal to provide one sex with a single-sex space and the other sex with a unisex space. And this is apparently what many M&S stores are doing. The Men get their own changing room near men's clothing, while the Women have to use a Unisex space near lingerie.

So they do have to provide a single sex space for women, or make the Men's also unisex.

Hmm...wonder which option they'll go for. :unsure:

Someone has mentioned on Xitter that Primark do the opposite - single-sex for Women, and unisex for Men. If true, that is just as unlawful and both retailers could be facing court action if anyone was to decide to challenge it legally.

Xitter also claims to have found the Store Manager online. Quelle surprise! (scroll down to see the post).

 
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I'm pretty sure it's legal for M&S to have a unisex changing area for customers. I can't find information about the legality of the design though...surely they would have to have floor to ceiling walls like unisex loos?

But...it's not legal to provide one sex with a single-sex space and the other sex with a unisex space. And this is apparently what many M&S stores are doing. The Men get their own changing room near men's clothing, while the Women have to use a Unisex space near lingerie.

So they do have to provide a single sex space for women, or make the Men's also unisex.

Hmm...wonder which option they'll go for. :unsure:

Someone has mentioned on Xitter that Primark do the opposite - single-sex for Women, and unisex for Men. If true, that is just as unlawful and both retailers could be facing court action if anyone was to decide to challenge it legally.

Xitter also claims to have found the Store Manager online. Quelle surprise! (scroll down to see the post).

From what I recall, from the last time I went in an M&S female changing room, the doors are definitely not floor to ceiling.
 
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I never use their changing rooms but will be in one of the Dublin stores this week, and will make it my business to see what changing facilities they offer.
 
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From what I recall, from the last time I went in an M&S female changing room, the doors are definitely not floor to ceiling.
They weren't the last time I was there either - but it's been about a decade since I tried on something in a shop.
 
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From what I recall, from the last time I went in an M&S female changing room, the doors are definitely not floor to ceiling.
You're correct. At the stores I know (5 miles & 8 miles away) the female changing cubicles have lockable doors but large gaps above and below. I've never used the changing rooms in the lingerie department, an area which (bizarrely) is always next to the menswear section. Why is that M&S?
 
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When I accidentally posted about TIM being sex offenders on the “Injustices To Women” thread, I got a finger wagged at me by a certain member ( who I‘ve now blocked) but it does seem a lot of them are dangerous deviants.
I actually don’t care if some people think I’m a hateful bigot, TIM set off alarm bells in some deep, primitive part of my brain, something that tells me somethings not right.
 
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You're correct. At the stores I know (5 miles & 8 miles away) the female changing cubicles have lockable doors but large gaps above and below. I've never used the changing rooms in the lingerie department, an area which (bizarrely) is always next to the menswear section. Why is that M&S?
It's actually not at our local M&S. Menswear is on the floor above.
 
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I must be really old or just foreign because I remember how useful those gaps at the top of the cubicle are. You could holler for the attendant to ask for another size and she'd happily yeet one over the door for you. And it really isn't that complicated, just provide separate dressing rooms. You'd think that retailers in this economy would want to do everything possible to get people to shop comfortably.
 
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As Glinner says ''With each case described in more detail below, here are 236 examples of ‘transwomen’ predating on women and/or children. The thing that never happens:''

Do we still have a wiki page going for these threads? Could this article be included there?

Im not going to read all of these stories....I dont want to feel even more depressed today, but....I think its an interesting example of quite how many 236 cases to be exact, cases of This Never Happens, there are. And probably worth considering that these 236 cases, are the known and proven ones!! There could be more cases that we dont know about out there!!
I just looked at a handful and I’m bloody angry as hell!

Why are they allowed to get away with what they do?! Community service for what they did (I’m not going to say as it’s sickening)?! People have been sent to prison for a bleeping tweet!!
 
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You'd think that retailers in this economy would want to do everything possible to get people to shop comfortably.
And I would guarantee that the majority of M&S shoppers are WOMEN. Actual women. The real deal. Not creepy men in dresses or whatever else they apparently believe makes them into women. 🙄
 
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I don't think legally enshrined protections would do any good. It's been a key feature of the trans movement that it's been trying to blur the boundaries of consent, both between adults and also in terms of trying to convince the world that children can 'consent' to sexual activity.

In fact I believe, personally, that the entire trans movement is a poorly disguised Trojan Horse for pedalo, which every few decades rears its head and tries to gain mainstream acceptance (e.g. PIE in the 1970s, the German 'free child sexuality' movement in the 1960s, etc etc)

That's just my opinion and I may be wrong. But either way, I don't think the tran movement has ANY interest in safeguarding. If it did, it's whole ethos would have been lobbying for third spaces rather than encroaching on women's. And it would never have for one second encountered the idea of a 'trans kid', if it was truly committed to safeguarding.

The trans movement can ONLY work if there is no such thing as safeguarding. And EVERY SINGLE advance made by the trans movement in the past decade has been predicated on TEARING DOWN safeguarding.
I used to believe that trans people just wanted to live their lives as their “authentic self” years ago. Long before they started all this aggressive push to be in women’s spaces, sports and taking our jobs. When they were quietly going about their day and trying to fit in.

Then I got a job at a college and came across so many trans teens I wondered what the hell was happening. I didn’t even live in a big city, I lived in Weston super mare! I remember asking my boss about them and they said to me that it seemed like hysteria or a contagion where one person would come out, leading to two more. And they were right!

You couldn’t report them to safeguarding, even though people being pushed to do something they wasn’t sure about was coercion. I mentioned something to the safeguarding officer and they never followed up on it. They knew it wasn’t right (a 6’5” boy being told he’s a girl by one particularly pushy “boy” and their girlfriend now became a boy too!) but said they wouldn’t check on it. They were scared.

And I honestly believe that the LGB NEEDS to kick the T out. They’re not anything to do with who they’re attracted to, they’re about included more perversions. Along with all the other sickos. Some are for sure trying to get pedophilia legalised. There’s a group in Seattle who are trying to push the minor attracted narrative. Absolutely vile
 
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You're correct. At the stores I know (5 miles & 8 miles away) the female changing cubicles have lockable doors but large gaps above and below. I've never used the changing rooms in the lingerie department, an area which (bizarrely) is always next to the menswear section. Why is that M&S?
I vaguely feel like the lingerie ones are those hideous floor to ceiling curtains, or at least they were in Cardiff and Bristol. I think. It’s been 3 years since I’ve lived in the UK so it could have changed.
 
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When I accidentally posted about TIM being sex offenders on the “Injustices To Women” thread, I got a finger wagged at me by a certain member ( who I‘ve now blocked) but it does seem a lot of them are dangerous deviants.
I actually don’t care if some people think I’m a hateful bigot, TIM set off alarm bells in some deep, primitive part of my brain, something that tells me somethings not right.
They’re sickos! All hiding in plain sight because pride is now a thing so people are too afraid to say anything.
My gay friends have all said they fear the T part and that they’re making pride a mockery. They don’t go out to celebrate it anymore because it’s been hijacked by them and become a perverted parade of freaks.
 
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