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Another brick in the wall crumbling w we need the rest of the civil servants to follow suit good enough for one department should be good enough for them all. 🦕💚🤍💜
 
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And they will know who the trans women applicants are as they look like men.
Fake news: no one can actually tell the difference been transwomen and cis women. You e probably been sharing toilets with transwomen forever and not realised.

Or something.
 
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I don't think he fathered them. The article uses she/her.

She is also one of the most recognisable intersex women in the world. In her book The Race to Be Myself, Caster explains herself. "On the outside, I am female. I have a tina, but I do not have a uterus. I do not menstruate and my body produces an elevated amount of testosterone, which gives me more typically masculine characteristics than other women, such as a deeper voice and fewer curves. I cannot carry a child because I don't have a womb. But contrary to what many people think, I do not produce sperm. I can't biologically contribute to making new life".

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He doesn’t have a tina. He has 46ARD which means his genitals didn’t develop properly. I don’t like talking about children‘s genitals but we need to be clear about his DSD

His testes didn’t descend and his pen was tiny. It got bigger when he went through puberty. Men with 46ARD produce testosterone and use it like any other male ie they are 100% men except that their genitals don’t develop properly
 
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Wow this is great! Although part of me would have liked to have seen just now many people actually consider themselves trans/NB.

I bet many of them will lie on this though, Himdia Withawilly for example.

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People should have to respond with either their NI or NHS number as well (and include if for those they are responding on behalf of).
 
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Last week’s long-overdue, bowing-to-the-inevitable announcement by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) that women’s Olympics sports will only be for (shock!) women, with sex tests carried out just once in the athlete’s life by a cheek swab, should put an end to women being gaslit with Phelps’s feet. (Hadley Freeman in the Sunday Times)

Parity but no medals for cheated Olympian women

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Yet people kept gaslighting women to accept this physical and psychological abuse. The former Irish PM Leo Varadkar was so delighted by Khelif punching women that he pledged “financial support” to Khelif’s threatened legal action against JK Rowling and others who tweeted in Carini’s defence (that legal action, strangely enough, never materialised). Last week Varadkar, dying on the hill of inclusivity, desperately asked Grok, the AI chatbot on X, what sex Khelif was “assigned at birth”.
 
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Last week’s long-overdue, bowing-to-the-inevitable announcement by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) that women’s Olympics sports will only be for (shock!) women, with sex tests carried out just once in the athlete’s life by a cheek swab, should put an end to women being gaslit with Phelps’s feet. (Hadley Freeman in the Sunday Times)

Parity but no medals for cheated Olympian women

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Yet people kept gaslighting women to accept this physical and psychological abuse. The former Irish PM Leo Varadkar was so delighted by Khelif punching women that he pledged “financial support” to Khelif’s threatened legal action against JK Rowling and others who tweeted in Carini’s defence (that legal action, strangely enough, never materialised). Last week Varadkar, dying on the hill of inclusivity, desperately asked Grok, the AI chatbot on X, what sex Khelif was “assigned at birth”.
What a bleeping bleep.
 
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Last week’s long-overdue, bowing-to-the-inevitable announcement by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) that women’s Olympics sports will only be for (shock!) women, with sex tests carried out just once in the athlete’s life by a cheek swab, should put an end to women being gaslit with Phelps’s feet. (Hadley Freeman in the Sunday Times)

Parity but no medals for cheated Olympian women

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Yet people kept gaslighting women to accept this physical and psychological abuse. The former Irish PM Leo Varadkar was so delighted by Khelif punching women that he pledged “financial support” to Khelif’s threatened legal action against JK Rowling and others who tweeted in Carini’s defence (that legal action, strangely enough, never materialised). Last week Varadkar, dying on the hill of inclusivity, desperately asked Grok, the AI chatbot on X, what sex Khelif was “assigned at birth”.
Could never stand that gobshite Varadkar and this has only cemented my dislike of him. 🤢
 
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They're not men's willies you awful bigot. They're ladies' willies. And I for one have no problem with lady willies only cis men willies.

On the plus side I've just been watching some footage from the Newcastle Reclaim the Night March last night (which was available to all genders except men) Didn't see a single stunning and/or brave trans sister. They're probably still stuck at the Monument because Grey Street and stilettoes are not a good combination.
I now have the most perfect image of a load of stunning and brave dolls going a over tit down Grey Street, careening uncontrollably down Dean Street, and ending taking an impromptu swim 🤣
 
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If having a DSD renders a man unable to take part in elite sports, that's unfortunate. Maybe the solution would be to include a category in the Paralympics - if it is a known disadvantage (I don't know if it is or not). Or maybe they would qualify for an existing category.

If having a DSD means that a man is unable to take part in elite sports against other men because they're simply not good enough - tough. Most of us (male or female) aren't good enough. Accept it, move on and find something you are good at without cheating.

The solution is not to compete against women, when you are a male.
I agree - a man with a DSD should compete with other men, either in the paralympics or regular olympics, I don't care which. Whatever he is he is not a woman - 99.99% of people wouldn't make the grade to compete in elite sports 🤷‍♀️
 
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I too hate the retelling of history to create something totally impossible.

Tudors, as others have said, knew very well the difference between male and female. Maybe in a remote isolated country village, you might have found the odd weird trans specimen, but they would be known about and either laughed at, stoned or totally ignored. Life in Tudor England was brutal and hard, especially in the countryside. Poverty, illness and death were constant companions.

I cannot see how you would have had any trans person at the tudor court? If they were female they would have been worthless, unless they produced children? if they were male they would have been rich or a servant. Although would they have had the equivalent of castrati? or Eunuch's? Maybe travellers from distant lands?

Women werent allowed to act or dress as men, its why Shakespeares early female characters had to be played by men. Or is this meant to be where we find the trans character? An actor in make up?


Or maybe..... the story can be about how, we can have the trans character caught and tortured as a witch for unnatural behaviours? Then hung drawn and quartered as a novelty? Or did I just spend too much time at the exhibits at the London dungeon as a teenager? (Trying not of course to actually denegrate the absolutely appalling witch trials of the Stuart and subsequent periods, where far far too many innocents were slaughtered!)
 
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I notice among the comments one from Graham Linehan, effectively saying "I think the way you do - why don't you like me?"

More and more I find him a self-pitying misery guts. I was initially impressed and grateful that he was on the side of the angels, but he seems to need to be centre and foremost in everything. There are women working as hard, if not harder, than he is to end this horror, but whenever he is present he takes over and makes it about himself. (He doesn't even seem to be aware that he is doing it. Very male behaviour. 🤭 )

I think he has set himself up as a Knight in Shining Armour and Protector of Women - but he expects women to be eternally grateful and to fuss round him like broody hens cosseting a single (giant) chick. And as I say - unaware.

I wish he didn't turn everything round to be "All about meeeeee!" 😓


Linehan is his own worst enemy. When his 'Tough Crowd' book came out, he got good reviews and people seemed to change their opinions on him. He then piled onto David Tennant and called him a 'groomer'. I think his agent then dropped him. I'm no fan of Tennant but that was such a fool, childish move.
 
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Now I’ve read that in the Chelsea Flower Show (of all places) this year, there’s going to be a sex-themed garden sponsored by the sex toy company, Lovehoney. Just why? The designer is quoted as saying, “Houseplants, much like pleasure, are something we should celebrate openly and abundantly.” Again, the ‘normalisation’ of ‘celebrating’ sex ‘openly and abundantly.’
Agree with this completely.

It’s also affecting retail, now you have the likes of Boots selling sex toys and (I’ve mentioned this before) listing butt plugs on their “£10 Tuesday!” promotions, alongside vitamin supplements and skincare. Also Lovehoney branded IIRC.

Like you say, it’s all about the normalisation of exposing people (including kids) to sex against everyone’s will. That’s what I object to, not the existence of sex toys per se. It always boils down to an insidious chipping away at boundaries, throwing safeguarding to the wind and sending impressionable minds some really inappropriate messages about what is expected of them in relationships.
 
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I had to be in central London on Saturday and got caught up in the march. Saw so many AGPS walking around, proudly displaying their twisted fetishes in the name of their 'human rights.' There was one huge great unit in Green Park. He was wearing a micro mini skirt, giant fake foam breasts and a thong and kept bending over for no reason so that everyone could see his backside. I hate how empowered these perverts now feel.
 
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I too hate the retelling of history to create something totally impossible.

Tudors, as others have said, knew very well the difference between male and female. Maybe in a remote isolated country village, you might have found the odd weird trans specimen, but they would be known about and either laughed at, stoned or totally ignored. Life in Tudor England was brutal and hard, especially in the countryside. Poverty, illness and death were constant companions.

I cannot see how you would have had any trans person at the tudor court? If they were female they would have been worthless, unless they produced children? if they were male they would have been rich or a servant. Although would they have had the equivalent of castrati? or Eunuch's? Maybe travellers from distant lands?

Women werent allowed to act or dress as men, its why Shakespeares early female characters had to be played by men. Or is this meant to be where we find the trans character? An actor in make up?


Or maybe..... the story can be about how, we can have the trans character caught and tortured as a witch for unnatural behaviours? Then hung drawn and quartered as a novelty? Or did I just spend too much time at the exhibits at the London dungeon as a teenager? (Trying not of course to actually denegrate the absolutely appalling witch trials of the Stuart and subsequent periods, where far far too many innocents were slaughtered!)
Do you think they’re going to make Elizabeth trans? To explain why she was the virgin queen and never married or had kids? The way they make the character sounds has her characteristics. I will be pissed if they do that!
 
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What you need to know
  • grape Crisis was told by SNP ministers to abandon a campaign because Alex Salmond’s sexual assault court case was coming up
  • An academic was forced to stand down from a charity because she feared the SNP would cut off funds if the party became aware of her views on gender
  • The SNP ploughed millions of pounds into drug charities that would support its controversial policies, such as “fix rooms”
  • Alcohol charities which relied on the SNP for the majority of their funding acted as “the Praetorian Guard of the SNP” over the party’s key policy: minimum unit pricing for alcohol


Thank you for archiving this. I was genuinely shocked to learn that 89% of big charitable funding in Scotland actually comes from the governing SNP.

It's no wonder that Scotland "appears" to be all in on the trans tit, and adoring of the SNP, despite the terrible stats on life expectancy, educational attainment and of course the absolute scandal of the grape crisis centres. Public opinion and public norms have basically been bought by the Government.

I literally don't understand how such a huge conflict of interest can be legal. When you take into account the vastness of the Scottish public sector and third sector combined, it's about halfway to being a Soviet state. That's dreadful for ordinary Scots.

I used to spend a lot of time in Scotland and I can honestly say the Scots are the most entrepreneurial, creative and resilient people I've come across. I feel really, really bad for them.
 
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I notice among the comments one from Graham Linehan, effectively saying "I think the way you do - why don't you like me?"

More and more I find him a self-pitying misery guts. I was initially impressed and grateful that he was on the side of the angels, but he seems to need to be centre and foremost in everything. There are women working as hard, if not harder, than he is to end this horror, but whenever he is present he takes over and makes it about himself. (He doesn't even seem to be aware that he is doing it. Very male behaviour. 🤭 )

I think he has set himself up as a Knight in Shining Armour and Protector of Women - but he expects women to be eternally grateful and to fuss round him like broody hens cosseting a single (giant) chick. And as I say - unaware.

I wish he didn't turn everything round to be "All about meeeeee!" 😓
I dunno man. I'm always inclined to give Glinner a pass (although I don't think I'd want to spend time with him IRL) because if I'd lost as much as he has I'd be bitter af too.

On JKR - it's so fascinating to me how angry she makes men, how entitled they seem to feel to talk down or mansplain to her, how little they can hide their sheer rage.

I honestly believe what it boils down to is jealousy that a little woman can have more creativity and success in her little finger than the many, man men in the arts and creative industries.
 
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I’m in two minds about Glinner. The man has lost everything, and it’s had a massive effect on his mental health. He’s also quite obviously neurodivergent, to my eyes, which goes some way to explaining why he often takes things too far, and makes social clangers like begging JKR to like him. It’s cringey, and he’s frequently unlikeable, but that’s true of a lot of ND people (myself included 😅).
 
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