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he's been fairly quiet of late

Sign of the wind changing . . . he'll be trying to build himself a bit of plausible deniability.
He’s also a father now, and may have some reservations about sterilising young kids.

I like DR. I think he comes across really well in interviews. It’s a shame he felt he had to bend to the TRA side, but perhaps that was self preservation on his part.

Maybe I’m being too optimistic. I would rather the likes of DR turn out to be cowards than genuinely believe JKR is evil.
 
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This is not a crime a woman can be guilty of. Ever. grape can only be committed by a man.
This is the definition.

In the UK, under the current legal definition, only a person with a pen can be a principal offender in the crime of grape. A woman cannot be charged with grape as a principal offender, but she can be prosecuted for other serious sexual offences, including as an accomplice to grape
Oh sure, that's the CURRENT legal definition but just wait until they change that too.
It's all just a game of made up, new words and definitions to the loon lot. 😡
 
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The media is a main character in the story of trans

A few years ago I was pitching stories to news outlets as a freelance writer. I was on the lookout for new angles that hadn’t been covered, mostly focused around social issues. I had begun to notice the transgender trend and realised that nobody had yet written about the potential consequences of replacing sex with this thing called “gender identity” in law and practice - not a neutral, pro- or against story. Nothing.

I noticed too that no woman’s or parents’ magazine or weekend supplement had published anything about what it’s like for a mother to have a kid who suddenly decides they were the wrong sex.

I thought - what’s up with that?

Transvestites were emerging all over the place and they were clearly dodgy — I sensed something overtly sexual and exhibitionistic about their behaviour. I couldn’t believe nobody was writing about the fact that giving them carte blanche to go public with what everyone once knew was a fetish was clearly not good for anybody (themselves included). Should we explore the trade-offs for society of letting men explore their kinky side out in the open?

Most importantly, kids could clearly be harmed by getting caught up in the craze. Let’s explore that!

I expected editors would want these stories… that they would be clamouring for deep-dive, longform explorations and interviews with the women and parents affected. I expected to see broadcasters rolling out panels of women, like the panels of men in womanface now being rolled out by BBC, to talk about how this might affect us, the practical implications and the conflict of rights and how they might be resolved.



But I realised immediately that by the time this subject came across my radar, it had already been rendered taboo.

When the story of trans is told, the role of editors and news programmers must not be neglected. Their cowardice and opportunism is a huge part of this story. Look how they treat the fetishistic crossdressers “affected” by the establishment of the law in the UK.

The media are main characters in the story of trans. Ironically, they helped usher in their own demise — for extremely short-term gain. The rise of newsletters and over-reliance on social media for news (for better and for worse) can largely be attributed to their intentional cover-up. Because that’s what it was and continues to be: a coverup. And not only that, but they intentionally monstered anyone who spoke up against it, running interference for activists and ruining lives in the process.

Their role in this is just as big as the medical butchers and the philanthropists and the deranged activists. Here they interview a bunch of arrogant crossdressing men in a classic news studio setup, but don’t be fooled: the BBC is just as much a subject of this story as their interviewees.

They deserve their destroyed reputation.
@BBC
@rtenews
@IrishTimes
@nytimes
@guardian
 
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I saw this on Instagram and thought it was interesting. The comments are mostly in favour of what Oliver said and some of those are from women. They state feminism has gone too far and women are unhappier than ever.
I believe women should always be considered equal, have a choice in whether she wants to work or raise children (and be supported in raising children) and women should have sex based rights, given that our bodies are more complex.

I've been a working mother and a stay at home mother so I can see both sides. I would 100% rather be with my children but I did enjoy my job and was good at it. I work hard in the home but mentally, I'm capable of more. I don't want to be reduced to a domestic serf. I'm a carer now for my child and that is a role that is often overlooked. When Oliver Reed was in his heyday, most disabled children were institutionalised but nowadays, most of them stay with their parents. This means becoming multi skilled. I also think the constant refrain of "women belong in the kitchen" is not only sexist but also classist. For centuries, married working class women had to work and bring up children. This debate frequently excludes widows, single women and lesbians too. Just let women decide for themselves what they want.

One more thing, I do think the state sold the idea of "women can have it all" just so they could get more tax payers. But they they destabilised the village of support and communities in doing so.
 
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The Northern Territory banning loons from female prisons. Let's hope the rest of Oz follows suit.
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I saw this on Instagram and thought it was interesting. The comments are mostly in favour of what Oliver said and some of those are from women. They state feminism has gone too far and women are unhappier than ever.
I believe women should always be considered equal, have a choice in whether she wants to work or raise children (and be supported in raising children) and women should have sex based rights, given that our bodies are more complex.

I've been a working mother and a stay at home mother so I can see both sides. I would 100% rather be with my children but I did enjoy my job and was good at it. I work hard in the home but mentally, I'm capable of more. I don't want to be reduced to a domestic serf. I'm a carer now for my child and that is a role that is often overlooked. When Oliver Reed was in his heyday, most disabled children were institutionalised but nowadays, most of them stay with their parents. This means becoming multi skilled. I also think the constant refrain of "women belong in the kitchen" is not only sexist but also classist. For centuries, married working class women had to work and bring up children. This debate frequently excludes widows, single women and lesbians too. Just let women decide for themselves what they want.

One more thing, I do think the state sold the idea of "women can have it all" just so they could get more tax payers. But they they destabilised the village of support and communities in doing so.
I believe women should always be considered equal, have a choice in whether she wants to work or raise children (and be supported in raising children) and women should have sex based rights, given that our bodies are more complex.


BIB - equal status for women - but it doesn't mean we are interchangeable with men. We are different, physically, mentally, better suited to some roles than men, and men are better suited to some roles than women.
 
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I saw this on Instagram and thought it was interesting. The comments are mostly in favour of what Oliver said and some of those are from women. They state feminism has gone too far and women are unhappier than ever.
I believe women should always be considered equal, have a choice in whether she wants to work or raise children (and be supported in raising children) and women should have sex based rights, given that our bodies are more complex.

I've been a working mother and a stay at home mother so I can see both sides. I would 100% rather be with my children but I did enjoy my job and was good at it. I work hard in the home but mentally, I'm capable of more. I don't want to be reduced to a domestic serf. I'm a carer now for my child and that is a role that is often overlooked. When Oliver Reed was in his heyday, most disabled children were institutionalised but nowadays, most of them stay with their parents. This means becoming multi skilled. I also think the constant refrain of "women belong in the kitchen" is not only sexist but also classist. For centuries, married working class women had to work and bring up children. This debate frequently excludes widows, single women and lesbians too. Just let women decide for themselves what they want.

One more thing, I do think the state sold the idea of "women can have it all" just so they could get more tax payers. But they they destabilised the village of support and communities in doing so.
Of course they did, think of all the domestic jobs created by encouraging both Parents to work.
As I've aged, I've started to realise the damage we have done by encouraging both Parents into full time work.
Women* used to do lots of voluntary stuff, particularly running clubs for the kids, now they're out to work the clubs are run as money making enterprises which then excludes poorer kids.
*historically Women and pensioners.
So many unintended consequences.
Note I'm not advocating for just Women to stay at home.
 
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Of course they did, think of all the domestic jobs created by encouraging both Parents to work.
As I've aged, I've started to realise the damage we have done by encouraging both Parents into full time work.
Women* used to do lots of voluntary stuff, particularly running clubs for the kids, now they're out to work the clubs are run as money making enterprises which then excludes poorer kids.
*historically Women and pensioners.
So many unintended consequences.
Note I'm not advocating for just Women to stay at home.
I agree with you. Think about how much the government loves making two working parents the norm, and all the tax money generated.

Tax the parents
Tax the nursery workers who care for the babies/children until they reach school age
Tax the childminders (although they are a dying profession compared with day nurseries)
Tax the before/after school club staff
Tax the people who do the jobs that full time working parents struggle with, e.g. cleaners
Tax the school holiday enterprises that charge £50-60 per child, per day

And so on. It’s hard to have these conversations in a way that doesn’t sound like “women need to go back to the kitchen” but we truly were misled about having it all. So many women are working full time and shouldering almost 100% of the household chores and admin.

Is it ideal for babies and toddlers to be in nursery 8am-6pm 3, 4 or 5 days a week? I don’t think so.
 
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Personally, I am sick of caring. Caring for kids, caring for parents, caring for and about everyone and everything. Why is it always the women’s role?
 
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Personally, I am sick of caring. Caring for kids, caring for parents, caring for and about everyone and everything. Why is it always the women’s role?
I’d rather go to work than run around after my elderly mother. I’m no more cut out for caring duties (always unpaid) than any man.
 
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I am totally sick of the lack of autonomy I have in my life, and having to think of the needs of the entire household before I can consider my own. Sick of staying in every weekend because my ND kids (and husband for that matter) are happier doing nothing, indoors. I’ve considered joining a gym, but have to consider the very small windows of opportunity during school hours (assuming I’m not at work myself or having to shop, cook and clean) when I might actually be free to go.
 
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Just put the Amazon music on on my tele for the first time in ages & this is the lead music home page 😃😃😎

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Of course they did, think of all the domestic jobs created by encouraging both Parents to work.
As I've aged, I've started to realise the damage we have done by encouraging both Parents into full time work.
Women* used to do lots of voluntary stuff, particularly running clubs for the kids, now they're out to work the clubs are run as money making enterprises which then excludes poorer kids.
*historically Women and pensioners.
So many unintended consequences.
Note I'm not advocating for just Women to stay at home.
It's definitely better for children to be with one of their parents. Doesn't necessarily have to be the female partner. When my daughter was at school there were a few stay at home dads whose partners had the better paid job, as I remember one of the mothers in question was a GP and her husband did part time work around looking after the kids so role reversal can work.
 
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It's definitely better for children to be with one of their parents. Doesn't necessarily have to be the female partner. When my daughter was at school there were a few stay at home dads whose partners had the better paid job, as I remember one of the mothers in question was a GP and her husband did part time work around looking after the kids so role reversal can work.
It’s like everything else it’s hard work getting men to do anything not all but most if not for their benefit then it doesn’t get done I know a couple of stay at home dads and one is brilliant the others not so much the partners still doing the bulk of the work. It’s a man world and they won’t or can’t change.
 
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I keep watching period dramas and even the poor families living in cottages (that would be expensive now lol) had at least a cook or maid or manservant to help with dressing the children, cleaning etc. Whereas now we (mostly women) do everything from caregiver, working full time, trying to keep fit, trying to be social, without house staff. Yes we have washing machines and dishwashers but we are so time-poor these days. And my colleague still has her 3x early 20s living at home because they are each saving for house/future rent and she's still fretting making their dinners and doing their foodshops as they otherwise just eat crap and moan about there being nothing to eat 🙄 and she also goes and cleans her elderly father's house. In the novels/period dramas the 20something kids if still at home would do the care duties, cleaning etc to help out (unless upper class then of course that's a different story).

We are led to believe we can have it all/do it all and there's also rising costs when people are already maxxed out on their available time to earn.

No wonder we're having a mental health crisis. No wonder a lot of women get to 50s and 60s absolutely burned out.
 
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I am totally sick of the lack of autonomy I have in my life, and having to think of the needs of the entire household before I can consider my own. Sick of staying in every weekend because my ND kids (and husband for that matter) are happier doing nothing, indoors. I’ve considered joining a gym, but have to consider the very small windows of opportunity during school hours (assuming I’m not at work myself or having to shop, cook and clean) when I might actually be free to go.
I'm with you and the other ladies!
I just want some TIME ON MY OWN TO DO WHAT I WANT!

Since Mr Mice retired I can't even do the bleeping shopping by myself and it drives me crackers! It's not good for other family members either because I get very bad tempered because everything and everybody gets on my nerves.
 
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