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Then in that case any iota of sympathy I have for her is dissolving rapidly.

You live by the scalpel, you die by the scalpel.

She'll have made a fortune out of this cult. I've looked at the link you posted and she works with a lot of medical insurance companies.

I wouldn't wish this on anyone because it's terrible to have to be so worried about the safety of your children, but there are bound to be repercussions when you are dealing with mentally ill people in such a cavalier fashion.
Sounds like she's openly declaring she takes high risk and difficult cases that in reality will have a huge failure rate, not least because all such surgery cannot possibly turn a man into a woman. The fact she's courting people who've likely been turned away by other professionals or have complex difficulties is bordering on criminally reckless. She'll only be doing it for the money not the outcomes and follow up success she speaks of because there's no such thing, just damage and harm perpetrated against unstable people.
 
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You’re not alone. My kids are autistic, I am clearly autistic, my mum has a lot of traits, as did my grandfather before her. Four generations, only my kids officially diagnosed.

This week I’ve seen a lot of maliciously gleeful comments about how the only REAL autism is profound autism, and anyone else is either a faker or a malingerer, essentially.

Well excuse me if I didn’t personally ask for Asperger’s (formerly a separate and very distinct category) to be lumped in under the umbrella term ASD. And spare me the “Asperger was a Nazi” stuff. That should have paid no part in erasing a very real profile of autism. Rename it if you like, just don’t erase it, because erasing it doesn’t mean these people don’t exist (and continue to be born!)

According to the likes of Dr Ute, any woman who managed to evade getting diagnosed well into adulthood never needed a diagnosis, because if you can present yourself well enough to fly under the radar, you can’t be on the spectrum. This is crazy to me. Dr Ute clearly has very little idea of how blatant my autistic traits have always been, right back to very early childhood. The fact it was never recognised is no fault of mine.
I (mid 30s) strongly suspect I have some form of it because I have been struggling a lot with how I process things and my interpersonal relationships etc. I've hit a wall mentally, emotionally, and I have always been what I consider a bit quirky but actually I stim a lot when I get home, after a day at work or being outside. Reading about masking rings all the bells, and struggles I had at school and in my personal life make sense in light of the realisation. It's not wanting a label to be cool, I genuinely have struggled and beat myself up over the years. I was well behaved at school so I was ignored. It was a crappy school that had behavioural/respect problems so others' educational needs got swept under the carpet because staff were fighting fire all the time. I got to my final year at uni before I broke down because I was struggling to cope with the course. Only then did I get an assessment for dyslexia that found I had significant issues with my working memory that affected my coursework. This was like 18 years ago.

The problem I find is that especially for girls, is if you are well behaved and do your homework and don't cause trouble your learning difficulties or ADHD or Autism traits are missed. School was so loud amd stressful amd I would come home and basically sit and rock in my bedroom and scratch my scalp to ribbons and it would take ages for my brain to calm after the day. My parents put it down to stress but never got me seen to.

Now, I recognise the same thing when work has been bad. My mind races all the way home and I have to fidget and sing (like bizarre selective vocal tics that embarrass me) and decompress when I get home. But I don't do any of that (except fidget with my hands) at work. It's that I have learned to mask and come home and take time to let it all out.

This past year I've seen videos of folk doing the same and talking about their traits and I'm like this...is me... It feels like a revelation.

But I got through school and I hold down a job so on the one hand I don't want to pay 💸💸💸 for a private diagnosis when I can 'function', equally I don't want to queue up for an NHS diagnosis because I'd feel guilty. I have always felt guilty about taking up space in life and have poor feelings of self worth, but I also feel very black and white about justice things. Like the whole gender ideology issue matters because my brain hurts that this blatant lie (TWAW) is being inflicted on us.

I may still seek a diagnosis in the future when I can convince myself I deserve to be seen, but I definitely know have something because my whole life experiences point to it and I am so tired about everything.

It actually hurts my very soul and brain when people try to lie about the immutability of sex because we all can see and know it's biological fact.

Also to add I think my Dad is very much on the spectrum as his behaviours and quirks ring many bells. So I reckon it's always been in many families it's just only being understood very recently.
 
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This creepy bugger. I certainly wouldn’t want to employ him. Can you imagine how difficult he’d be? Nobody is stopping him doing anything apart from trampling over women’s rights.
 
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This creepy bugger. I certainly wouldn’t want to employ him. Can you imagine how difficult he’d be? Nobody is stopping him doing anything apart from trampling over women’s rights.
I asked AI about SM's work record - it crashed the first time :ROFLMAO: and then gave me this - I like the "While not always "jobs" ... bit

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I asked AI about SM's work record - it crashed the first time :ROFLMAO: and then gave me this - I like the "While not always "jobs" ... bit

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The glaring error is the use of the word, “She”. He’s a man, but had to laugh about “While not always in jobs” too. Unemployable I’d say. Could you imagine the nightmare of working with a forever offended difficult bugger like him.
 
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The glaring error is the use of the word, “She”. He’s a man, but had to laugh about “While not always in jobs” too. Unemployable I’d say. Could you imagine the nightmare of working with a forever offended difficult bugger like him.
I had a 'chat' with the AI about that ...

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The glaring error is the use of the word, “She”. He’s a man, but had to laugh about “While not always in jobs” too. Unemployable I’d say. Could you imagine the nightmare of working with a forever offended difficult bugger like him.
and AI (co-pilot at least) absolutely refuses to use sex based pronouns when talking about trans identified people. Even if you point out the conversation is between you and AI, the person won’t see it so can’t be ‘harmed’ by it, that you are gender critical and don’t believe in this ideology. It point blank refuses.

And apparently that’s the neutral position 🙄
 
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The glaring error is the use of the word, “She”. He’s a man, but had to laugh about “While not always in jobs” too. Unemployable I’d say. Could you imagine the nightmare of working with a forever offended difficult bugger like him.
And there was me thinking that Euan was so happy after buying an M&S bra. My heart bleeds for him...not.
 
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Any hopes that the BBC were trying to be more even-handed when reporting on crimes committed by trans people are dashed by the BBC’s use of ‘she’ throughout their piece on this 😠

 
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Is this co-pilot or another one? Because co-pilot wouldn’t budge on this for me when talking about someone else!! Can’t remember who it was now.
It's Co-Pilot - I disagreed with it using 'she' for SM and said he was a male transvestite - C-P said this was a derogatory term

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A prison officer who was sacked for refusing to use wrong pronouns has lost his appeal. Although the judge was satisfied he ‘held a philosophical belief protected by the Equality Act’ (it still jars me that calling a biological male ‘he’ is a ‘philosophical belief’), he was sacked for not complying with the company’s policies on trans prisoners, rather than his beliefs. Surely this is setting a precedent to potentially overturn the Forstater judgment in that, regardless of your ‘beliefs’, if you do not tow the line regarding using wrong-sex pronouns at work, you can still be sacked anyway. In other words, your language can now be compelled. If you want to stay employed, you are forced to reject the evidence of your own eyes and ears.

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Any hopes that the BBC were trying to be more even-handed when reporting on crimes committed by trans people are dashed by the BBC’s use of ‘she’ throughout their piece on this 😠

Dunno, I'm in two minds about this. I absolutely acknowledge that he's male and should be referred to as such. But...the more they say "TW" rather than "woman", the more people will go "another trans criminal? I feel like there seems to be quite a few of them" and it might wake up a few more people. And also see the absurdity of calling these blokes "she"
 
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Dunno, I'm in two minds about this. I absolutely acknowledge that he's male and should be referred to as such. But...the more they say "TW" rather than "woman", the more people will go "another trans criminal? I feel like there seems to be quite a few of them" and it might wake up a few more people. And also see the absurdity of calling these blokes "she"
And they should ALWAYS accompany the text with an unfiltered photograph of "her". Preferably one that enables the reader to accurately estimate "her" height and build. (Something they always seemed to try to avoid with Dr Uptonogood during the Sandie Peggie court case. And before anybody pulls me, I know he isn't a criminal. But he isn't a woman, either.)

I think when most people see exactly what these "women" are like, there'll be a lot less sympathy for the cause.
 
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And they should ALWAYS accompany the text with an unfiltered photograph of "her". Preferably one that enables the reader to accurately estimate "her" height and build. (Something they always seemed to try to avoid with Dr Uptonogood during the Sandie Peggie court case. And before anybody pulls me, I know he isn't a criminal. But he isn't a woman, either.)

I think when most people see exactly what these "women" are like, there'll be a lot less sympathy for the cause.
I think he is a criminal. He went out of his way to use a communal nurses changing room. He’s a bleeping p.
 
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I think he is a criminal. He went out of his way to use a communal nurses changing room. He’s a bleeping p.
Exactly, there was a doctor's changing room that he should automatically have been using. He deliberately selected the nurses room because he saw nurses as lower class and easier to dominate. He is a sexist, classist hunter.
 
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I think he is a criminal. He went out of his way to use a communal nurses changing room. He’s a bleeping p.
Oh - I agree that he's a p and an opportunist, but legally he hasn't been convicted of a criminal offence, and some trans apologist somewhere would sooner or later would accuse me of lumping him in with a convicted criminal.
 
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A prison officer who was sacked for refusing to use wrong pronouns has lost his appeal. Although the judge was satisfied he ‘held a philosophical belief protected by the Equality Act’ (it still jars me that calling a biological male ‘he’ is a ‘philosophical belief’), he was sacked for not complying with the company’s policies on trans prisoners, rather than his beliefs. Surely this is setting a precedent to potentially overturn the Forstater judgment in that, regardless of your ‘beliefs’, if you do not tow the line regarding using wrong-sex pronouns at work, you can still be sacked anyway. In other words, your language can now be compelled. If you want to stay employed, you are forced to reject the evidence of your own eyes and ears.

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Could you not then go down the constructive dismissal route if you'd not been made aware of the policy in advance of starting the job?
 
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