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sydneymae

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I stayed on Eugenia’s tiktok livestream for 3 hours or more yesterday and I came away from it crying. Crying for her. And I’m not someone who easily cries. And no I’m not a fan, I only check up on her every now and then as I’m curious and despite her many faults, what I see is a girl who has been through some seriously dark sh’t that’s resulted in making her the way that she is now which is incredibly mentally and physically ill.

The ENTIRE time (hours) she repeated how amazing Jeffree is and how much she loves him and doesn’t deserve him and how he’s essentially this god like figure. Meanwhile, they’re both in separate rooms, she’s alone doing her makeup for three hours and he’s seemingly having the time of his life getting high on drugs, battling all these other bizarre and insane tiktoker nobodies. Btw I used to be a fan of Jeffree but I DESPISE him in recent years and he is by far one of the most money hungry narcissistic and ignorant, deluded people I have ever come across.

Eugenia was displaying some alarming behaviour whilst she was alone on stream in his makeup room, any time she would drop a makeup brush or misplace a makeup product she was using, she would start spiralling and manically say ‘why am I like this/why am I such a HORRIBLE person, why am I such an AWFUL person, oh my god I’m such a terrible person why am I like this, sorry guys I don’t know what’s wrong with me I’m so awful’ …. It was INSANE. The self deprecation over something SO minute was really telling and incredibly upsetting to see. This happened many times throughout her stream, it was really distressing.

But this wasn’t the only thing.. she appeared to be super nervous and as if she were walking on eggshells around Jeffree/being around his stuff/how she acted in his home. For example:

When she was finally finished applying her makeup and it was time to put the handheld mirror down, she started panicking and asking us if we thought it would be okay if she put the mirror down on the table and if Jeffree would be okay with that. (WHAT?) She really struggled for a few minutes to decide where would be best to set the mirror down and if Jeffree would mind, she was frantically looking around for the best place to set it down as she didn’t want to upset him. Makes NO sense. Another example was that any time Jeffree popped into her stream and gifted her (this happened a handful of times) she would explode with gratitude but then start manically telling us that she wanted to thank Jeffree in person too and would start panicking going back and fourth asking us if we thought Jeffree would be okay with her going into the room he was in to thank him etc. Again, this happened numerous times. And every time she went in to thank him, I would switch to his stream and my GOD it was the most awkward hard to watch thing ever. All the laughing and fun would stop as soon as she would appear in the room and his entire demeanour would drop as if she was this annoying little sister interrupting a big brother and all his friends. It was so uncomfortable to see.

Another example was that any time Jeffree’s dogs were near her you could tell she adored them and really really wanted to pet them but she would again, panic and go back and fourth on whether Jeffree would be okay with her petting them. Again, asking us if we thought he would be okay with it and her genuinely freaking out trying to decide if she would somehow get into trouble for it or not. All of this behaviour she displayed spoke VOLUMNES to me and it broke my heart. What on earth has happened to her in her physical life that has made her so codependent and afraid of disappointing or causing any sort of inconvenience to people? There are so many alarming examples I could bring up but it’s impossible to write them all out on here and say what I need to say about them.

It just made me so so sad. I know she has her faults online but it’s obvious she has been abused in real life and has an enourmous level of self hatred which has clearly stemmed from somewhere or somethings that have happened. She desperately needs real help and a real support system around her to help build her up and give her the opportunity to live a real, substantial life. Unfortunately it doesn’t look like this will ever happen for her.
 
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Pumpkin84

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Her filter slips on one of her lives as she puts her hand to her face and as soon as realises she pauses the live and goes off camera. You can see the discolouration in her skin, especially her hand, she's wearing heavy makeup but you can see the discolouration in her face too. I've read comments from nurses saying its because she's in heart failure and not oxygenating well. Those are some heavy filters she uses to hide all that.

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Yupyupyup

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It might just be best to keep to her name and then the # thread it is. Doesn’t really feel right to be making a snarky title, even if she is a bint
 
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DoubleOld

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I understand what you are saying. Some times she's a lot on my mind as well. There is something so difficult and uniquely painful and sad about her and her situation. We clearly all know she's very harmful in a lot of ways and she deserves to be held accountable for that. At the same time she's also a victim and she is also harmed. By her family, their attorney, her mental illness, the internet platforms and her fanbase, by fellow creators. You can be upset with her but also feel sorry for her at the same time. Her situation is very complex and is mentally very conflicting for a lot of us. A lot of us are angry with her because of how harmful she is, what she does to fellow ED sufferers. At the same time we ALL want to see her get help, the humane and compassionate side in us wants a better life for her because a lot of us know what it's like to struggle mentally (from an ED or not), we all want her to have a better life. That is normal and one does not have to feel bad about feeling like this.
I think a lot of people don't want to feel compassion for someone who we can all see is harmful, but I think we should allow these two feelings to co-exist because that is how feeling work.
There is something so incredibly heartbreaking about her situation and most of us feel frustrated that we can see it happening, yet nothing ever gets done. Her family, their attorney, the platforms she uses... they are all enabling her and making it so she doesn't get/seek help and that is incredibly frustrating.
There is something so awful about that family that you can't help but think about it.
Hope you are taking good care of you mental health dear 💜
What a sweet, empathetic response @oshare! Hugs.

My own daughter, who is now 39, struggled from anorexia starting in her late teens to the point where her father and I made her take a medical leave from her first year away at college because her ED was escalating. We got her to a doctor within 48 hours of her plane landing. She recovered - it took over a year and there was a multi-disciplinary team involved. Now she is a mother to 2 beautiful children ( we weren't sure if she could ever get pregnant because of the damage done to her body due to previous emaciation), happily married and has a successful career. However, as you so rightly pointed out @oshare, this is a very complex illness. It was heartbreaking to watch my daughter go through such mental torture to eat even a single grape and, if I'm being honest with myself, also quite infuriating. Individuals in the grips of this disease can be quite manipulative and obstinate. It is a true mental illness and when it gets severe psychoses is involved. My daughter was a walking skeleton but when she looked in the mirror she honestly saw someone who was "fat." Almost 30 years later I remember it all like it was yesterday. Even when my daughter put on a "happy face" I knew that deep inside she was suffering terribly.

I think what Deb is doing as her daughter's personal videographer and choreographer is criminal and that she should be committed. I don't know how their family attorney sleeps at night. What a f*cking sleazeball.

And I'm just so tired of hearing people say "Eugenia's an adult. She has free will. We can't do anything." The mental health system here in the USA is a joke.

As always, thank you for reading through my rant.
 
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Cinders91

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That recent clip of her on live is heartbreakingly sad😔.
You can see the fear in her eyes too.
She has such a vibrant, sparkly and sweet character.
It is a crime that she has been allowed to get into this state.
I've never truly felt 'bad' or 'sorry' for her, as I know she let herself get this way; but watching that, seeing the panic in her eyes...It's wrenching :(
Someone needs to intervene.
She doesn't want to die, but this time it might be far too late to recover :(
 
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Frigg

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This is so jarring I didn't realise how tall she is, she looks like a ghoul
 
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Being brutally honest I'm baffled as to how she's still able to function in her condition. I know that sounds horrible and it's really not meant to be
 
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femmegirly

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I think I’m the only person who doesn’t blame her parents. My sister has an ED (in a recovery of sorts now thank god) and my parents tried everything throughout her entire teenage years and 20s. My sister lived at home with them and only moved out aged 32 when she met someone online and got married. Her husband now has a hellish time with her, even though she’s not as sick as she was. I’m glad she doesn’t live at home anymore as my parents were like zombies.

My parents love her so much, tried everything in the book, and more. After almost 20 years of my sister’s illness, they are both totally numb and almost emotionless about it all, they were resigned to letting her more or less ‘get on with it’ fully expecting her to die before them, at a very young age. Pretty sure both my parents have undiagnosed depression and anxiety and possibly ptsd as a result. My mum once told me she wished my sister would just die already, so the illness would no longer effect my brother and I. I don’t think she could see how badly it was effecting her and my father. They were so used to it.

You don’t know what it’s like until you’ve lived through it with someone. Sometimes there’s nothing more you can do, until they want to take action and get better themselves. And even then, their version of ‘getting better’ isn’t a full recovery. It’s not just the person with the illness who suffers but the immediate family & loved ones who see it every day.
 
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Pumpkin84

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I've been wondering what her being age restricted on tiktok means as a whole, I've just come across this comment on reddit. She's been demonetised, lost the paid subs privileges and anyone she battles will also be temporarily age restricted until the battle ends. I bet she's got her lawyer working on this but it seems the powers that be at tiktok have had a proper look into this and deemed it appropriate to age restrict her, so I'll be surprised if she gets out of this one.

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GlitterFluff

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I know this has been asked a million times, but HOW is she still alive, let alone able to turn up to these things?!
 
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gigi_93

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I’m confused by her a lot. People with severe anorexia die all the time, way before they get to this stage. They lose their hair, their ability to stand unaided. But she just keeps going??? Living normally?? Make it make sense
 
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Flowerpotgirl

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her mother will deny it was the ED that killed her and say it was natural causes or her heart failed. which of course have the ED as the basis of it
I dont think there could be any recovery from how far she has gone now. I could be wrong, but I cant imagine her eating her way back to health
 
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DoubleOld

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Those scared little nibbles make me sooo sad
ThIS @Ratatat-tit. "Scared little nibbles."

Not a normal bite of food or real eating of any kind. You can tell she was both terrified and repulsed by putting even a tiny speck of food into her mouth. She seemed actually traumatized by trying to eat. Very disturbing and painful to watch. It reminds me of when my daughter would struggle to eat a single ravioli; her emotional distress was palpable. My heart broke for her. But I was also taking her for outpatient therapy three days a week. Not to Disneyland.

It also looks like Eugenia hasn't chewed food in a long, long time. Almost like her jaw and mouth didn't know what to do. Perhaps she only takes in liquids at this point and that is what has kept her body alive. (Remember the anorexic twins who lived on Diet Coke for years and years except for once a year they sucked in some watermelon?)

And there's Deb with her vacant, "What problem? See? She EATS!" fake smile in the background. Which Eugenia made sure to record. (Or did Deb, for the first time, look really uncomfortable with the charade? I can't decide).

And, by the way, my daughter was in her early 20's when this all happened. Parents CAN intervene if their child is sick enough. I'm also in the US so am familiar with the laws.

Sorry to ramble but so many emotions are raised with this girl.
 
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Wills315

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Over on reddit they are saying her tiktok got hacked and her username was changed to deb cooney and every video of her being racist was uploaded to her account. She still hasn't got her username back its now a random one, she's waiting for tiktok to sort it out. Also she was saying she will take sips of water if people send votes for the new live fest then proceeds to take the tiniest sip of water.

Disgusting, what the fuck? Vote and I'll drink? She fucking knows what she's doing, as mentally unwell as she is I don't buy the innocent, "I don't understand " act anymore. She should be taken off all platforms indefinitely.
 
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