@DramaticMAC - Aisling Murray

[Oohthedrama]

Honestly I think you need to understand cultural differences. Just because Americans settle down at 21 doesn't mean the rest of the world does too?

Also there's nothing wrong with going out and enjoying yourself single or otherwise at 27. We are fairly progressive and most people like the idea of putting their career first and enjoying a single lifestyle and settling down at a later age. Doesn't make you a frat boy.

You can also be married, with a career and enjoy going out and having fun. I'm guessing that's probably why divorce rates are so high in America, married at 21 and not getting to enjoy the freedom of your twenties must be really hard.

they all seem to work full time and they have relationships and interests away from a beer keg
but paddy himself wanted to travel loads last year, he was playing football a lot, and poker/golf with his mates, the year before he went skiing with his friends and I thought she’d try and follow him out, they’d been together about 9 minutes at that point.
he now lives an hour away from them all with a baby and his girlfriends parents.
what a difference a year makes

 

[Charmante]

Honestly I think you need to understand cultural differences. Just because Americans settle down at 21 doesn't mean the rest of the world does too?

Also there's nothing wrong with going out and enjoying yourself single or otherwise at 27. We are fairly progressive and most people like the idea of putting their career first and enjoying a single lifestyle and settling down at a later age. Doesn't make you a frat boy.

You can also be married, with a career and enjoy going out and having fun. I'm guessing that's probably why divorce rates are so high in America, married at 21 and not getting to enjoy the freedom of your twenties must be really hard.

You may need to review the post I originally reacted to (the one where it was stated that Paddy will be resenting Aisling because all his mates are now going back to "life" and he's tied down with a child. It's not true that Americans don't go out and enjoy life, travel, etc. once they are married. lol I also never said Americans settle down at 21. (What I did say was that it was common for 27-year olds in America to be getting married & having babies.) Which is why I was questioning how someone at 27 wouldn't/couldn't possibly have a friend or two who also has a child. Again, that's a common thing in America at that age. If it's not in Ireland, then the original post makes sense. It just seemed off to me since - to your point - you need to understand cultural differences. Not everyone reading this forum lives in Ireland.

 

[Dearreader]

"Here the party guys are 19-23. University/college age plus maybe 2 years. After that, any man you'd seriously consider as a husband is well-trenched in his career and looking/planning towards a future. Not to say all men do that, but any one that will amount to anything in life is starting to grow up by 24+. If Paddy's friends are a bunch of 27 year old 'frat' boys"

Particularly the part "anyone that will amount to anything in life is starting to grow up by 24+" That's a shallow take. I'd rather date a good man working in McDonald's over a head with a huge salary.

You can be grown and enjoy yourself. You don't have to have tit figured out by 24 to be a "worthy" man. You can party in your 30's and travel and then settle... it doesn't make you less than.

You were informed on the thread on your original post by three seperate commenters that Irish men and women settle down later in life... isn't cultural differences just amazing and guess what? We don't have to shame, or make indirects about who does life better!

Also never said Americans don't travel or go out once married. What I did say was - I wonder are divorce rates so high in America because there's an expectation to marry young and settle and not have as much freedom as a single person would have of the same age.

Feels a bit like you are trying to imply men are only successful if they settle down and marry between the ages of 21 to 26.

 

[Charmante]

"Here the party guys are 19-23. University/college age plus maybe 2 years. After that, any man you'd seriously consider as a husband is well-trenched in his career and looking/planning towards a future. Not to say all men do that, but any one that will amount to anything in life is starting to grow up by 24+. If Paddy's friends are a bunch of 27 year old 'frat' boys"

Particularly the part " any one that will amount to anything in life is starting to grow up by 24+" That's a shallow take. I'd rather date a good man working in McDonald's over a head with a huge salary.
You can be grown and enjoy yourself. You don't have to have tit figured out by 24 to be a "worthy" man.

You were informed on the thread on your original post by three seperate commenters that Irish men and women settle down later in life... isn't cultural differences just amazing and guess what? We don't have to shame, or make indirects about who does life better!

Also never said Americans don't travel or go out once married. What I did say was - i wonder is divorce rates so high in America because there's an expectation to marry young and settle and not have as much freedom as a single person would have of the same age.

Feels a bit like you are trying to imply men are only successful if they settle down and marry between the ages of 21 to 26.

What I said was what you quoted. That in MY part of the world, men who are not working towards a future by 24+ (not 21) are not on track to amount to much HERE. There is ALOT of competition here for good careers/positions, and if you are not on track early, you are out of the game. Happy to hear it's different in Ireland, but that doesn't change it HERE. (btw just try living in the US & raising a family on a McDonald's salary. good luck with living on love in NYC lol) No one is implying anything about Ireland. I don't live in Ireland which is why I ASKED about culture norms in Ireland. I know we have a faster-paced culture, but good or bad, it is what it is. Seriously, checking out now because this forum gives me a headache and that's just not what I'm here for.

 

[Dearreader]

What I said was what you quoted. That in MY part of the world, men who are not working towards a future by 24+ (not 21) are not on track to amount to much HERE. There is ALOT of competition here for good careers/positions, and if you are not on track early, you are out of the game. Happy to hear it's different in Ireland, but that doesn't change it HERE. (btw just try living in the US & raising a family on a McDonald's salary. good luck with living on love in NYC lol) No one is implying anything about Ireland. I don't live in Ireland which is why I ASKED about culture norms in Ireland. I know we have a faster-paced culture, but good or bad, it is what it is. Seriously, checking out now because this forum gives me a headache and that's just not what I'm here for.

Take care xx

I just don't measure the worthiness of a man based on his salary... Nothing to do with " living on love" and everything to do with morals and being raised to not value individuals based on their bank account

 

[Pacho]

I'm Irish but home is North America. When we first came here I was nearly 27 and with my now husband nearly 7 years. All my friends here couldn't believe we were together so long & not even engaged never mind married. They thought it was so strange & the conversation even came up how I should leave him because of it! Then one of my colleagues who was 21 and with her boyfriend a little over a year came back from her lunch break engaged and no one thought that was strange at all. Gotta love cultural differences

I haven't been on Instagram. Is Aisling still doing a Melanie Murphy with the hand photos or have we seen baby?

 

[Keikochan]

I'm Irish but home is North America. When we first came here I was nearly 27 and with my now husband nearly 7 years. All my friends here couldn't believe we were together so long & not even engaged never mind married. They thought it was so strange & the conversation even came up how I should leave him because of it! Then one of my colleagues who was 21 and with her boyfriend a little over a year came back from her lunch break engaged and no one thought that was strange at all. Gotta love cultural differences

I haven't been on Instagram. Is Aisling still doing a Melanie Murphy with the hand photos or have we seen baby?

Yeah still the hand & feet photos. She showed the soles of his feet now.

 

[Noped2021]

I'm Irish but home is North America. When we first came here I was nearly 27 and with my now husband nearly 7 years. All my friends here couldn't believe we were together so long & not even engaged never mind married. They thought it was so strange & the conversation even came up how I should leave him because of it! Then one of my colleagues who was 21 and with her boyfriend a little over a year came back from her lunch break engaged and no one thought that was strange at all. Gotta love cultural differences

I haven't been on Instagram. Is Aisling still doing a Melanie Murphy with the hand photos or have we seen baby?

That's really funny and I totally relate to that but opposite. I'm American but I live in Ireland. I got married at 25 to an Irish guy and baby at 27. Most people acted like I was a child bride and a lot of people asked if the baby was an accident (he wasn't). My husband's friends are mostly in super long term relationships but not even discussing marriage yet. Their relationships are just as serious as my own and I'd say they'll get married eventually but it seems like people here tend to wait longer. Nothing wrong with that. I'm sure if we Americans did the same then the divorce rates wouldn't be so high as someone else mentioned. The housing situation here also doesn't help - makes it harder for people to marry and have kids young. But yes I'd say in a group of 27 year old lads here, it's safe the say that the vast majority of them would not have kids yet. I read that only 17 percent of new dads are in their 20s here.

I think people from around the world have this perception of Ireland from back in the day when everyone was super Catholic and had loads of children starting very young. That wasn't that long ago and it's a very stark contrast to the way things are now.

 

[metalbeard]

That's really funny and I totally relate to that but opposite. I'm American but I live in Ireland. I got married at 25 to an Irish guy and baby at 27. Most people acted like I was a child bride and a lot of people asked if the baby was an accident (he wasn't). My husband's friends are mostly in super long term relationships but not even discussing marriage yet. Their relationships are just as serious as my own and I'd say they'll get married eventually but it seems like people here tend to wait longer. Nothing wrong with that. I'm sure if we Americans did the same then the divorce rates wouldn't be so high as someone else mentioned. The housing situation here also doesn't help - makes it harder for people to marry and have kids young. But yes I'd say in a group of 27 year old lads here, it's safe the say that the vast majority of them would not have kids yet. I read that only 17 percent of new dads are in their 20s here.

I think people from around the world have this perception of Ireland from back in the day when everyone was super Catholic and had loads of children starting very young. That wasn't that long ago and it's a very stark contrast to the way things are now.

Very well said
I always found in Ireland we are encouraged to live out our 20’s travelling, going to college, finding a job or career and enjoying yourself, there isn’t much pressure for people in their 20’s to settle down and get married or have a family, I spent my 20’s working and experiencing life, as did my siblings, friends, co-workers
Not to say everyone does these things in their 20’s but it’s very common
I had a coworker have a baby at 28 and always refers to herself as “only a child herself having a baby” because none of her friends had babies at this age, she was the only one
Now when you hit 30 is when people can feel the pressure to get married and start a family but it’s quite an archaic view to have in my opinion and stems from our ridiculously strict Catholic upbringing, women especially compete with their friends on who is engaged, married, having the first baby blah blah blah
I feel it’s getting better now and people are more accepting of not having children till late in your 30’s or choosing not to have them at all but there are still people who either get pressurised from their families or their friend group
And 100% the recession and housing crisis has had a massive impact on people starting families, often people have to choose between starting a family or owning your own home which is a very sad truth
The fact paddy is in his 20’s having a baby is a bit strange but not uncommon, the reality is that a lot of people who have a child with someone in their 20’s (in my experience in Ireland not speaking for everyone) might not be with that person in their 30’s...things change and people grow up, not saying this will happen with these 2, I have 5 male friends and 2 female friends, all had a kid with a someone in their 20’s as they were in a relationship and thought it’s what they wanted, then they grew up, wanted different things, left that relationship and are in long term relationships now in the 30’s or married to someone else , they are still in their kids life obviously but it’s the norm I find
Sorry longest post EVER!

 

[Oohthedrama]

Aisling’s been so lucky she’s never once had a scare before the EXACT age she wanted to get pregnant.

 

[Withwhat]

Aisling’s been so lucky she’s never once had a scare before the EXACT age she wanted to get pregnant.

The thing I don’t get about a lot of her early pregnancy videos is that she’s making them as something she’s going to look back on in years to come, but also overshares and contradicts herself. She’s the one editing!
Surely she could watch the entire thing and maybe leave out bits? I still find it strange that she tried to claim they were TTC but she didn’t take a pregnancy test when she was days late. And didn’t tell Paddy about it for another few days! Then put it online for the world to see

 

[Oohthedrama]

The thing I don’t get about a lot of her early pregnancy videos is that she’s making them as something she’s going to look back on in years to come, but also overshares and contradicts herself. She’s the one editing!
Surely she could watch the entire thing and maybe leave out bits? I still find it strange that she tried to claim they were TTC but she didn’t take a pregnancy test when she was days late. And didn’t tell Paddy about it for another few days! Then put it online for the world to see

Said it was accidental,
cried because she was nervous to tell him and his family,
Got offended when people asked was it accidental,
Had posted she wanted to have a baby soon in a reply and deleted.
Out of the blue started taking vitamins and folic acid for her headaches prior to getting pregnant.... accidentally.

but she’s in her 30’s so anyone asking if it was accidental is so rude,

but it was accidental and her first ever scare.

if he’s not questioning it he’s thick as tit

 

[Withwhat]

if he’s not questioning it he’s thick as tit

Idk. I think that she’s probably been consistent with whatever story she’s told paddy.
I’m wondering why she would film her pregnancy announcement such that she’s telling her youtube channel before she’s told paddy. Whether or not they were trying, is that not very strange? That’s youd See two blue lines and think of YouTube not your boyfriend?

 

[Keikochan]

Her stories are all over the place & she is just making things up as she goes.

I'm thinking what really happened is something like they had a casual little chat about the possible future as couples do because you know communication & all of that.
They both wanted to travel, they both wanted kids, both preferred to live outside of Dublin (bigger house) but close enough for a commute and Paddy had a dream of designing it. Not sure about the marriage part though.
Anyways their plan was to travel together for sure but then covid happened & Aisling had a little panic & thought "hmm maybe we could skip to the baby part & sure Granny & Grandad can look after the baby while we travel later on".
She did her prep (folic acid), didn't fill Paddy in on the updated plan & he was too stupid to believe her about not wearing a condom. Baby happened & now here we are

But that's just what I think could of happened. It's believable though right?

 

[Oohthedrama]

Her stories are all over the place & she is just making things up as she goes.

I'm thinking what really happened is something like they had a casual little chat about the possible future as couples do because you know communication & all of that.
They both wanted to travel, they both wanted kids, both preferred to live outside of Dublin (bigger house) but close enough for a commute and Paddy had a dream of designing it. Not sure about the marriage part though.
Anyways their plan was to travel together for sure but then covid happened & Aisling had a little panic & thought "hmm maybe we could skip to the baby part & sure Granny & Grandad can look after the baby while we travel later on".
She did her prep (folic acid), didn't fill Paddy in on the updated plan & he was too stupid to believe her about not wearing a condom. Baby happened & now here we are

But that's just what I think could of happened. It's believable though right?

EXACTLY what I think happened!!!

 

[starryeyed10]

I think paddy's idea of travel was probably very different to aislings .

 

[Oohthedrama]

I think paddy's idea of travel was probably very different aislings .

but she’s a shapeshifter, she changes everything about herself for the man she’s with, she looked and acted like a different person with John.

I see she’s now gone full on Melanie Murphy on her stories @Dearreader you’ll love it.

 

[metalbeard]

She has a whole insta section dedicated to him and he’s a week old! Jesus wept talk about Melanie 2.0 with the blue bleeping heart over his face I’m all for keeping your kids offline I don’t think kids should be exposed on SM but this is another level of narcissism, to show them but make of point of not showing only their face and think you’re protecting them...you’re not love
Just keep your baby private it’s that simple and save all these photos to send to your private family and friends groups

 

[Pacho]

She has a whole insta section dedicated to him and he’s a week old! Jesus wept talk about Melanie 2.0 with the blue bleeping heart over his face I’m all for keeping your kids offline I don’t think kids should be exposed on SM but this is another level of narcissism, to show them but make of point of not showing only their face and think you’re protecting them...you’re not love
Just keep your baby private it’s that simple and save all these photos to send to your private family and friends groups

Same. I was really hoping she wouldn't do a Melanie Murphy. I cannot understand it, either put your kids online or don't? It's getting so silly now at this stage with all influencers.

Remember when the "it' photo to post to let everyone know you'd given birth was daddy leaving the hospital carrying baby in the car seat? Now it seems to be hand photo, followed by the heart covering the face. Just keep your child offline! Looks like someone else I'll have to unfollow.

 

[metalbeard]

Same. I was really hoping she wouldn't do a Melanie Murphy. I cannot understand it, either put your kids online or don't? It's getting so silly now at this stage with all influencers.

Remember when the "it' photo to post to let everyone know you'd given birth was daddy leaving the hospital carrying baby in the car seat? Now it seems to be hand photo, followed by the heart covering the face. Just keep your child offline! Looks like someone else I'll have to unfollow.

Oh my god yes! Every girl and their ma were sharing that photo of daddy and the baby seat