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NParker

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Ah, this is very interesting as I'm subscribed to him and raised an eyebrow when I saw his upload rate increase dramatically, alongside a growth of a weird cult-like fanbase. I feel that he is very egotistical and it is starting to become apparent in his videos (his forced 'jokes' for example). He certainly does market himself as if he is trained as a psychiatrist.

He peddles his Patreon during every upload, and encourages comments to increase viewer interaction although he never responds = more money.

I also feel that many of his videos are biased...and that he tends to lean towards a right-wing point of view, although it is subtle. I was also put off by his video in which he effectively called the accusers of Michael Jackson (Wade Robson & co.) liars and said their documentary they was 'boring'. I thought it was extremely odd to defend such public inappropriate behaviour from a grown man, celebrity or not.
 
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Clara88

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Glad to see this thread. I would never go to see him for therapy because he seems arrogant, creepy, awkward and low empathy to me. I think that what he does on youtube is unprofessional and inappropriate and most reasonable therapists would be disgusted to see his videos. I especially found it appalling when, as others have mentioned here, he cast doubt on Michael Jackson's accusers for instance, and it seemed like being a fan of MJ was influencing his gross, irresponsible takes.

I think that he's mainly risen to popularity because of his snarky deadpan delivery which has become popular on youtube as of late, given how obsessed everyone is with hating on certain youtubers and loving when people shade them. Again, not really appropriate delivery for someone who's supposed to be a professional.

I also find it obnoxious how he calls himself a "Dr" because it means that most of his fanbase assume he's a psychologist & lends a kind of credibility to him that he doesn't really deserve. He got a BA from some crappy, barely accredited college in 1 year, an MA from a school that appears to accept anyone in 2 years, and a PhD in "community counseling" from a low-level school in 3 years. For some context, a PhD in psychology (which he does NOT have) usually takes between 4-7 years to complete.

The first post in this thread references a quora answer by someone who said that Grande received a PhD in Philosophy. That person was confused. To clarify things, a PhD is an abbreviation of "Doctor of Philosophy." That doesn't mean that the PhD is IN Philosophy. Grande's PhD, as I said, is in "community counseling." Maybe I should get a 3-year PhD in bread baking and call myself a Dr.
 
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fwooper

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“Dr. Grande is a Licensed Professional Counsellor of Mental Health (LPCMH), Licensed Chemical Dependency Professional (LCDP), National Certified Counselor (NCC), and Certified Alcohol and Drug Counselor (CADC) in the State of Delaware. He holds a Master’s of Science in Community Counseling from Wilmington University and a Ph.D. in Counselor Education and Supervision from Regent University”.

I hope that clears up any confusion about his credentials.

As stated in the attached link, his YouTube channel is decided to counselling education and supervision. At the beginning of his videos, Dr. Grande states that he is “not diagnosing anyone, only speculating about what could be going on in a situation like this”. His channel is for educational purposes and as a counsellor in training myself, it has been an extremely helpful source of information.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But let’s not ignore the facts here.

https://www.ofcourse.co.uk/user/todd-grande
You created an account here just to post this? Dr Todd is that you? ;)

Sure, you can copy & paste his credentials from his own profile which makes it seem impressive, but for added context just from digging around:
  • He got his BS in the space of one year from Excelsior College, an online university which is famously scoffed at because it's essentially just a way to pay a lot of money to be able to stick BSc/BA on your CV.
  • His Master's is, again, from a degree mill university.
  • He completed his PhD in the space of 3 years (unheard of in the US), probably because he did at a weird Christian university where everything is taught through he lens of Christianity. See here how actual professors feel about PhD students from this institution.
He might have some knowledge/exp in counselling, but he is certainly not qualified as a psychologist or psychiatrist. I understand he doesn't claim to be one, but many of his viewers mistakenly think he is - which is not a surprise considering he speaks authoritatively on mental illness and although he claims he isn't diagnosing people, he comes pretty damn close to it.

And, genuine question: do you think it is sound for any mental health professional to make videos about people they have never met, commenting on their potential mental disorders? Do decent mental heath professionals weigh in on petty internet drama?
 
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fwooper

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I'm surprised he gets so much universal love, at least from what I've seen. Like you pointed out in your original post no decent medical professional would make YT commentary videos which go to the level of speculation that he does. Goes to show that if you're a man, speak with authority, and use complex terminology/jargon people will be convinced that you're an expert on the topic.

Like a lot of YT commentators he presents himself as unbiased and objective, but he has a clear political/ideological slant in a lot of his videos - the MJ video being a good example of that. What a disturbing and victim-blamey video.
 
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fwooper

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I'm still amazed people are still swooning over this guy for his "scientific analysis" even though he's a complete quack. Something tells me if it was a woman making these videos and her only qualifications were a 1 year Bachelor's degree from an online university and a 3 year PhD from a conservative Christian university, people wouldn't be buying into it. But Grande has that obnoxious ~I am a scientific objective man governed by LOGIC and not EMOTIONS" aura so people seem to uncritically accept what he says.

I recommend watching this video - I'd skip to the 9.30 mark. She's doing an actual psychology PhD. If anyone still isn't aware, Grande is "trained" in counselling, not psychiatry/psychology.




I've always got a weird vibe from his videos, particularly whenever he talks about women. The most sickening example being when he victim blamed a 15 year old girl who had intimate pictures leaked. There's something off about him and he gives me the heebie-jeebies.
 
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Crazy_chick

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I discovered him couple of months ago and watched few of his videos but I felt that something was off. Something just didn't feel right about him.
 
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LawH

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I always felt a little off about him, so I subbed and have been watching his content for a while now. As light entertainment, his videos are pretty neutral and can encapsulate certain historical events and people relatively well, and if you don't take it too seriously, I doubt there is much harm in watching him. Looking to him for some type of deep analysis however might not be a good idea, and I never thought anyone would take him as anything more than a regular commentator on Youtube.

I began to wonder about his upload rate. There is no way anyone could do a thorough analysis of anything at the rate he is going at it. This makes me believe, that he is very quick to pick up on words and lingo to portray himself as an expert, but that he lacks any thorough understanding on subjects. This would mean that he is intelligent to some degree, but lazy, and possibly suffers from some of the issues he himself has spoken on.

I eventually caught him slipping in one of his videos. I can't remember what it was exactly, but it had something to do with weapons. He spoke as if he knew something about firearms. He seemed to repeat a lot facts about weapons, but then he totally messed up on a very obvious point about what he was talking about. This happens a lot to people who pretend to know, but who haven't done any actual research or have no actual background in the subject they are speaking of. It happens to all of us sometimes, where we repeat something we take for granted, but this was actually something that I had subconsciously picked up on when it came to him, but I hadn't been able to articulate it to myself. I feel as if he is pretending to know a lot, but in actuality knows very little about what he is saying. He is intelligent enough to pick up on the solid ideas of someone else compared to some incoherent claims of others, but he seems to mess up when it comes to some counter intuitive or experience and knowledge based reasoning. Like if an experienced chess player just knows that some moves are not great, and no matter how high your intelligence is, you wouldn't be able to figure it out without actual experience.

Also, I have commented on his videos only once to my recollection, and it was about the depth of his analyses. I had just spent a week following an actual trial. Grande did an analysis on the trial, and it was very superficial. The response from his followers was a bit unnerving. One of them went on my channel, tried to find information on me, and then tried to weaponize this information against me, simply for calling the analyses relatively superficial due to the upload rate, and my knowledge of the actual trial. This comment from his follower seemed to gain traction, which also unsettled me. If this was the type of crowd he was gathering, there had to be something really wrong about his presentation that I wasn't completely picking up on.

His examples and opinions on certain mental disorders have seemed to have a very personal touch, like he might have been accused of some of the traits that he is critiquing. It was in one of this older videos about narcissism or something that had a particularly personal vibe to it.

He has often criticized Dr. Phil on his channel, but I do feel that even though he is definitely not as bad as McGraw simply because his has less or an impact on society, he is treading the same path. The difference is seriousness pretty much comes down to Grande not having the power McGraw does. I also feel that McGraw actually has a lot more personal experience in psychology than Grande does.

All in all, I would avoid watching him solely based on the huge question marks that surround him. If you are knowledgeable in these subjects, like law, psychology, and so on, you should watch him, and critique him on his channel as much as possible.
 
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NParker

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You created an account here just to post this? Dr Todd is that you? ;)

Sure, you can copy & paste his credentials from his own profile which makes it seem impressive, but for added context just from digging around:
  • He got his BS in the space of one year from Excelsior College, an online university which is famously scoffed at because it's essentially just a way to pay a lot of money to be able to stick BSc/BA on your CV.
  • His Master's is, again, from a degree mill university.
  • He completed his PhD in the space of 3 years (unheard of in the US), probably because he did at a weird Christian university where everything is taught through he lens of Christianity. See here how actual professors feel about PhD students from this institution.
He might have some knowledge/exp in counselling, but he is certainly not qualified as a psychologist or psychiatrist. I understand he doesn't claim to be one, but many of his viewers mistakenly think he is - which is not a surprise considering he speaks authoritatively on mental illness and although he claims he isn't diagnosing people, he comes pretty damn close to it.

And, genuine question: do you think it is sound for any mental health professional to make videos about people they have never met, commenting on their potential mental disorders? Do decent mental heath professionals weigh in on petty internet drama?
Thank you!

If that's not Dr Grande himself, it's both comedic and outrageous that a 'counsellor in training' would claim to be 'learning' from him.

His uploads are growing more unprofessional by the day (literally). His sole purpose is to make money under the guise of psychiatry. And you're right, he claims he is not diagnosing anyone. But let's call a spade a spade. That is exactly what he is doing. Don't get me started on his obvious bias in certain videos.
 
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Vee6

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I think he’s some sort of genius. His way of stepping back and looking at a situation completely objectively is like nothing I’ve seen before
 
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fwooper

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Thank you!

If that's not Dr Grande himself, it's both comedic and outrageous that a 'counsellor in training' would claim to be 'learning' from him.

His uploads are growing more unprofessional by the day (literally). His sole purpose is to make money under the guise of psychiatry. And you're right, he claims he is not diagnosing anyone. But let's call a spade a spade. That is exactly what he is doing. Don't get me started on his obvious bias in certain videos.
Right? It sounds very bizarre - if you're learning to be counsellor, surely you would be consulting actual academic research and learning this stuff on an accredited course, not watching Dr Grande's videos about Trisha Paytas.
 
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Grey_x

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I really dislike him and his content. Plus he gives me some major bad vibes and makes me feel really uncomfortable watching him.
 
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drphdpsych

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I had to sign up just to respond to these comment regarding Todd Grande. I am a PhD in Clinical Psych and taught psychopathology for several years. Todd Grande claims to know things that are untrue. Advice to any students following him for educational purposes...please find a new teacher/mentor. That is, providing you want to pass licensing exams. Personally, he makes my skin crawl with his hubris. I was trained that even when using psych testing, you must be objective by taking a good history rather than blindly accepting the results without knowing the person the assessment describes. This guy not only doesn’t know those he speaks of, but states his opinion without merit. His comments about Marilyn Monroe are simply off, and he thinks he knows why her doctors described her as they did? He is projecting! Learn something about psychological defenses Mr. Grande! Oh, maybe too psychodynamic for you, huh? He reminds me of Dr Laura. He calls himself Dr misleading his followers into thinking he is either an MD or PhD in psychology. I would accept his verbiage as opinion if he stated his credentials clearly and spoke to the limits of him scope. But, nowhere on his YouTube does he state what his PhD is in. I had to search, which was also how I found this page. Yay! But like I said, he is like Dr Laura, a right wing blow hard that wants to tell people how to judge people. Yes, that right wing bias as subtle as Tucker Carlson.
 
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fwooper

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Here's my take. People here crying "He's not a psychiatrist!" Psychiatry is the field of brain diseases such as schizophrenia, clinical depression, Bi Polar. I've watched 95% of his videos, he's never so far as I've seen discussed or attempted to explain these diseases. He discusses Narcissism, Psychopathy and Personalty Disorders which fall under psychology. He has since reinvented his channel and discusses current affairs from celebrities to cause cèlébre.

As for his qualifications. Knowledge can go beyond formal qualifications. I'm satisfied that he knows what he doesn't know. I find many of his analysis' to be on point. He's very elegant at wording his analysis. Many people here are simply being personal - "He's weird" "There's something off about him". That doesn't have anything to do with his content. I don't agree with absolutely everything he says but he is knowledgeable and qualified as a counsellor.

Another point of contention is "No respected psychologist would do a YouTube channel." Well that's not true. Emma Kenny is a British psychologist who has a similar channel.
To finish he clearly states that he is just 'speculating' isn't that something we all do?
I can literally find multiple videos where he discusses schizophrenia, depression, and bipolar disorder, so I'm confused at your claim that he has never discussed or tried to explain these diseases. Being "elegant at wording his analysis" doesn't make him a good psychologist; most pop "psychologists" are eloquent and good at making complex topics sound simple to the general public, that's why they get popular! But just because he's articulate and you personally perceive him to be 'knowledgable', doesn't mean that his commentary is accurate and doesn't mean his commentary reflects that of an actual clinical psychologist.

And sorry, but when it comes to topics like psychology and psychiatric medicine - fields which are rife with misinformation, and take years of difficult practice to be allowed to deal with patients - a formal qualification means a lot and sets you apart from the quacks. I agree that a qualification on paper doesn't automatically mean you're an expert, but when it comes to certain fields (particularly related to medicine/health), it absolutely does. Would you trust someone who made commentary videos about medicine/healthcare who didn't have a MBBS/MD? I just think it's very telling that all of Grande's diplomas are from shit-tier universities - if he was so knowledgable and adept at psychology, why wasn't he able to get any qualifications at a more respected institution? Being a counsellor is not at all interchangeable with being a psychologist; the latter requires far more research and clinical work, and in some places the title is even protected (because dodgy counsellors love to claim they're a psychologist when they aren't).

It's a bit baffling that you bring up Emma Kenny to try defend Todd Grande - she's as much of a quack as he is. She is not a qualified or respected psychologist; she has an undergraduate degree in psychology and a postgrad degree in counselling. She's also a bit of a nutcase, her Twitter is just bizarre anti-vaxx ramblings. In any case, where has anyone on this thread said "no respected psychologist would do a YouTube channel"? It seems you might have wildly misquoted something I said, which was that "no decent medical professional would make YT commentary videos which go to the level of speculation that he does", which is a quote I stand by - there's no clinical psychologists on YouTube victim blaming 15 year old girls.

We all speculate, but not all of us misrepresent our three-year bullshit PhD to claim we're a "Dr." and then use that title to make people think we're an actual psychologist.
 
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“Dr. Grande is a Licensed Professional Counsellor of Mental Health (LPCMH), Licensed Chemical Dependency Professional (LCDP), National Certified Counselor (NCC), and Certified Alcohol and Drug Counselor (CADC) in the State of Delaware. He holds a Master’s of Science in Community Counseling from Wilmington University and a Ph.D. in Counselor Education and Supervision from Regent University”.

I hope that clears up any confusion about his credentials.

As stated in the attached link, his YouTube channel is decided to counselling education and supervision. At the beginning of his videos, Dr. Grande states that he is “not diagnosing anyone, only speculating about what could be going on in a situation like this”. His channel is for educational purposes and as a counsellor in training myself, it has been an extremely helpful source of information.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But let’s not ignore the facts here.

https://www.ofcourse.co.uk/user/todd-grande
 
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a.t.u

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It's weird because if you look at him in his videos from two years ago and his videos now you see that quite a lot has changed about him. He used to seem more humble but now he just comes off as arrogant. Also, some of his content is really about petty and trivial matters and sounds like plain gossip like analyzing Jefree Star's apology video or some mukbang Youtuber's channel. I don't know why anyone who calls himself a professional would care about stuff like this but I guess he's going with anything that gets more clicks at this point.

He is currently making +$3000 a month on his Patreon with more than 600 people paying. On his Patreon page he says that he created his Patreon because due to the sensitive nature of his topics some of his content gets little revenue on Youtube but he uploads videos about what he got for Christmas and his puppy Bella on his Patreon. It just sounds opportunistic to have people paying to you for stuff like this.
 
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fwooper

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Hmmm. I majored in psychology (he got his Bachelors in Psychology) and he is extremely well-educated on the subject. If you looked closer, you would’ve noticed he teaches psychology at the University of Wilmington and has done so for over 7 years. As he delivers his info, he sounds to me more like a professor teaching a class. You do not have to be a psychologist to teach psychology and know a great deal about it. To be a counselor of any kind you have to have hundreds of hours in a counseling situation, (if you ever watched the TV show “Mad About You,” both versions of it, Jamie is a similar type of counselor). Just because someone has a psych degree doesn’t mean they are good at being able to help you. A lot of people become MSWs and are as comparable in technical knowledge, but better at helping you solve your problems than some psychologists. Also, a lot of people do not want to do the 2 years of Freudian analysis, many psychologists today do not believe in Freudian analysis, so they opt for a different route.
Strange how it's always brand new accounts with no post history that come here to defend him. :unsure: If you "looked closer" (as you put it), you'd know that the University of Wilmington is a bottom of the barrel university. Teaching there for 7 years isn't really something to brag about.
 
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deemah906

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Something I can't stand these days is people misusing their credentials for personal gains.. I am a Pharmacist and I never heard of a medical practitioner giving their opinions on people they never consulted or met in person.. I don't think psychology should be exempt from this.. So I went on to investigate Dr. Todd and here's what I found. Obviously Dr Todd is a only licensed as a Mental Health Counselor. They do not have the same level of knowledge as a licensed psychiatrist they do have knowledge on mental disorders but I do not think it's their specialty area and they do not have the authority to prescribe a pharmacological treatment.. I think It's even damaging to discuss people in this way

I honestly lost respect for him openly request people to support him on Patreon? https://www.patreon.com/drgrande


"Even psychiatrists don’t comment on the mental health of anyone they haven’t examined,” explains John Torous, a psychiatrist at a teaching hospital affiliated with Harvard Medical School. This is the so-called Goldwater rule. The American Psychiatric Association created this rule — which prohibits members from publicly commenting on the mental health of someone they haven’t examined"


Quoting from Quora .."Dr. Grande is not a Licensed Psychologist, not a Licensed Psychiatrist, and not a Licensed Medical doctor. Dr. Grande received his Ph.D. in Philosophy, and not in medicine. Dr. Grande is Licensed by the state of Delaware as a Mental Health Counselor . Licensed Mental Health Counselors do not have the same scope of practice as a Licensed Psychologist, a Licensed Psychiatrist, or a Licensed Medical doctor. Licensed Mental Health Counselors have their own Licensing Regulation Board which is separate from the Licensed Psychology Board. Dr. Grande posts sensationalized videos on his YouTube channel that often gives diagnosis to people which is acting outside his scope of practice, in my opinion. In April of 2019, a Journalist wrote a news article entitled something like, “Armchair Psychologists Who Ticked Off YouTube,” where Dr. Grande is mentioned as being one of the armchair psychologists that gossips. The news story pointed out that, “Even Psychiatrists don’t comment on the mental health of anyone they haven’t examined.” If you feel that you would like to file a complaint against Dr. Grande, then you can file your complaint with the Delaware Licensing Board for Mental Health and Chemical Dependency, or you might try filing a complaint with the Delaware Licensing Board for Psychology because the Delaware Psychology Board has a checkbox for people that are operating without a License in Psychology. "
 
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DaileyDose

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I used to be a "fan" of Grande's older content on Cluster B PDs since he came across as nonjudgmental, knowledgeable, and educational. I confess I got duped into thinking he was qualified. Fortunately, not for too long though, due to multiple factors coming together which painted a different picture.

Although he never specifically stated that he holds a PhD in psychology, he did nothing to dispell such assumptions either, nor did he clarify his "credentials."
If I had the time (and if I wasn't too lazy), I'd go back and remove every single comment I had posted on his videos.
After everything I've learned, I've come to see him as a quack.
 
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deftones34

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I always felt a little off about him, so I subbed and have been watching his content for a while now. As light entertainment, his videos are pretty neutral and can encapsulate certain historical events and people relatively well, and if you don't take it too seriously, I doubt there is much harm in watching him. Looking to him for some type of deep analysis however might not be a good idea, and I never thought anyone would take him as anything more than a regular commentator on Youtube.

I began to wonder about his upload rate. There is no way anyone could do a thorough analysis of anything at the rate he is going at it. This makes me believe, that he is very quick to pick up on words and lingo to portray himself as an expert, but that he lacks any thorough understanding on subjects. This would mean that he is intelligent to some degree, but lazy, and possibly suffers from some of the issues he himself has spoken on.

I eventually caught him slipping in one of his videos. I can't remember what it was exactly, but it had something to do with weapons. He spoke as if he knew something about firearms. He seemed to repeat a lot facts about weapons, but then he totally messed up on a very obvious point about what he was talking about. This happens a lot to people who pretend to know, but who haven't done any actual research or have no actual background in the subject they are speaking of. It happens to all of us sometimes, where we repeat something we take for granted, but this was actually something that I had subconsciously picked up on when it came to him, but I hadn't been able to articulate it to myself. I feel as if he is pretending to know a lot, but in actuality knows very little about what he is saying. He is intelligent enough to pick up on the solid ideas of someone else compared to some incoherent claims of others, but he seems to mess up when it comes to some counter intuitive or experience and knowledge based reasoning. Like if an experienced chess player just knows that some moves are not great, and no matter how high your intelligence is, you wouldn't be able to figure it out without actual experience.

Also, I have commented on his videos only once to my recollection, and it was about the depth of his analyses. I had just spent a week following an actual trial. Grande did an analysis on the trial, and it was very superficial. The response from his followers was a bit unnerving. One of them went on my channel, tried to find information on me, and then tried to weaponize this information against me, simply for calling the analyses relatively superficial due to the upload rate, and my knowledge of the actual trial. This comment from his follower seemed to gain traction, which also unsettled me. If this was the type of crowd he was gathering, there had to be something really wrong about his presentation that I wasn't completely picking up on.

His examples and opinions on certain mental disorders have seemed to have a very personal touch, like he might have been accused of some of the traits that he is critiquing. It was in one of this older videos about narcissism or something that had a particularly personal vibe to it.

He has often criticized Dr. Phil on his channel, but I do feel that even though he is definitely not as bad as McGraw simply because his has less or an impact on society, he is treading the same path. The difference is seriousness pretty much comes down to Grande not having the power McGraw does. I also feel that McGraw actually has a lot more personal experience in psychology than Grande does.

All in all, I would avoid watching him solely based on the huge question marks that surround him. If you are knowledgeable in these subjects, like law, psychology, and so on, you should watch him, and critique him on his channel as much as possible.
This was a great post about him!

I have watched a lot of his videos but something about him seems off to me now. Also, there is no real substance to his videos anymore.
 
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