Dr Jessica Taylor and VictimFocus #2

[SagaNoren]

How old was Jaimi when they got together? Did Jess get any grief for this at the time? Id barely heard of her then

First photos of them together in public realm are from 2018, making Jaimi 20 at the time but don’t know when they actually got together.

ETA the newspaper article about the protest describes JT as an “international researcher, writer and speaker” Think she would still have been in the middle of her PhD at that point…

'Burton deserves better' - calls for Burton MP to resign

The Tory politician allegedly sent 2,000 texts to a local barmaid

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[Gossgossgoss9888]

Hi new to this thread.

I started following Jess maybe a couple of years ago. I admired the way she was making a name for herself as a working class woman in academia and I thought some of what she said, her tiktoks about victim blaming etc. were interesting and accessible.

I also felt a connection to some of her anti-psychiatry rhetoric because I have a diagnosed mental illness that I choose to manage without medication. (I feel I should be clear, this is my decision about my health, on the basis of medication effectiveness vs side effects, and while I've often doubted my own diagnosis I'm not someone who believes that mental illnesses don't exist, or that medication is never the answer for anyone.)

She posted her suicide post on LinkedIn, and that's where I saw it, and it shocked me.

The times in my life when I've been most suicidal and most in danger of doing myself serious harm are the times when I've had the least insight, when I've genuinely believed that I was well and rational and the urge to die was a logical consequence of the way life made me feel, and that anyone else's concern or wish for me not to commit suicide came from their selfishness or sentimentality.

Insight saved my life. The acknowledgement that feeling a certain way wouldn't last forever, that moods are like weather and I just need to find ways to manage them... that's what helped me move past some really serious crises.

I understand, and to some extent agree with, the argument that trauma is a cause of or contributing factor for many mental illnesses, and that understanding and working through that trauma can be vital to managing and maybe even recovering from a mental illness. I also fully appreciate that some diagnoses come with serious stigma and that stigma is often hugely damaging in very real ways.

But Jess seems to be arguing that the illnesses themselves don't exist, and that all there is is trauma and its logical consequences.

It feels like saying, "don't be ridiculous, you haven't broken your leg - no need for cast, or surgery, or painkillers - you can't walk because that car ran you over. We can fix your problems by talking about the experience of being run over, and prosecuting the driver, and campaigning for safer road policies". All those things may well be helpful and worthwhile things to do, but they're not going to mend that leg.

 

[Boogs]

I've said for a while that when this relationship goes south, Jaimi will be framed as an abuser, just as Alex was, and her oldest son's dad.

It’s a classic narcissist move. They are ALWAYS the victim. They never do any wrong. DARVO all the way.

 

[AccidentalAcademic]

I've said for a while that when this relationship goes south, Jaimi will be framed as an abuser, just as Alex was, and her oldest son's dad.

I think you're right, but there will be an intermediate step in the process. Something like this:

"I let Jaimi take responsibility for our WhatsApp group and internal comms cos she's much less experienced than me and I wanted to support my wife to develop her management skills. With my hours of training, writing, researching, and doing frontline work for women and girls I don't have time to supervise all staff personally. Turns out some of them betrayed our mission and Jaimi just didn't know how to deal with it how I would have done. So sick of so-called feminists criticising my wife for not being perfect and me for trying to support her!"

It's a tactic I have seen used before - a controlling person pushing blame onto a weaker person, and acting as if they're being oh so magnanimous in teaching that person better ways. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was the dynamic here.

 

[MoodyMargaret92]

The most ironic part of that is Jess was talking about how Johnny Depp preyed upon Amber Heard because of her age, and he abused that “authority” of being older by her to his advantage. Which is interesting, because there’s also a significant age gap between Jaimi & Jess. So if anything, she’s just contradicting herself. Shock!

To add - that’s all things JT said RE Johnny & Amber, not my own opinions! That’s not relevant here.

 

[SavannahS]

She got a lot of negative attention for speaking about johnny depp but people didn't understand, she doesn't care about amber or anyone.

It was a chance to forward her brand.

 

[butterjamcream]

Jessica was right about Amber- spot on. A case of even a stopped clock telling the right time twice a day.

Hilariously she told the staff she was speaking to Amber on the phone

She wasn’t fazed. According to Jessica it is normal for A listers to call. After all, according to Jessica, Jada Pinkett-Smith had also phoned her. To invite her, (in fact fly her out to the US) to appear on a talk show about ‘the slap’.

Delusional fantasist.

Obviously bull, the phone call with Amber never mentioned again. Ironically the notorious Victim Focus LTD WhatsApp, her medium for upholding power and control could now be her undoing.

 

[MoodyMargaret92]

By speaking to Amber, she 100% means she’s talking to Eve Barlow. NOT Amber.

 

[SavannahS]

I thought she was correct about Amber and it almost lead me to becoming very supportive of Jess. I considered emailing her to tell her this. Sally Ann explicitly said she was speaking up to caution women from disclosing stuff to Jess. So glad she doesn't have my email or any personal info as I didn't contact her after Sally Ann's disclosure.

Why would Amber Heard want to speak to Jess Taylor?

She had some senior and reputable clinical psychologists on her team and it didn't do much for her. And Jess has a tit reputation for taking survivors stories and has no clinical experience.

 

[labtest]

Jessica was right about Amber- spot on. A case of even a stopped clock telling the right time twice a day.

Hilariously she told the staff she was speaking to Amber on the phone

She wasn’t fazed. According to Jessica it is normal for A listers to call. After all, according to Jessica, Jada Pinkett-Smith had also phoned her. To invite her, (in fact fly her out to the US) to appear on a talk show about ‘the slap’.

Delusional fantasist.

Obviously bull, the phone call with Amber never mentioned again. Ironically the notorious Victim Focus LTD WhatsApp, her medium for upholding power and control could now be her undoing.

Was the story about Jada wanting to fly her put also shared in the VF WhatsApp?

 

[Jessterday]

She was also very friendly with JK Rowling and Jameela Jamil at one point. Lots of cosy phone calls with them....

 

[theartofgrift72]

Just catching up with this thread. I didn’t think I could be anymore shocked by the things she says - wrong! She has clearly never stepped foot in an acute or rehabilitation ward - to say that serious mental illness does not exist. She talks as if she is the only person to understand there are deep flaws in the way we treat and diagnose mental illness. I’ve never met a mental health professional that doesn’t acknowledge this. But what blows my mind is that it’s those flaws that allow someone like Jess Taylor to avoid scrutiny ,flourish and take up room in this space , that means she can peddle bull to vulnerable people and make a career out of it with no clinical experience. She can’t even see it! Her bad writing and rit takes undermine the hard work of other professionals who work to try and improve the system for patients and people experiencing mental illness. I.e She highlights that racism can influence a diagnosis of schizophrenia instead of exploring that in any depth she comes to the conclusion that therefore schizophrenia doesn’t exist. Groundbreaking stuff.

 

[butterjamcream]

By speaking to Amber, she 100% means she’s talking to Eve Barlow. NOT Amber.

100%

Was the story about Jada wanting to fly her put also shared in the VF WhatsApp?

I'm not sure. I genuinely can't remember. I do remember being tickled by it. It seemed to be readily and uncritically believed by the rest of the staff which was fascinating in itself. She implied she had been invited on the 'red table' sessions.

 

[Boogs]

I think those tales sum her up quite well. She is so desperate to be famous and feel important no matter what the cost to others is isn’t she?

 

[AccidentalAcademic]

I've just noticed that she uses her title even in the WhatsApp chat and I cringed so much I nearly dropped my phone. (No, this is not my wild envy talking - I have a doctorate. Nor is it internalised misogyny - if I had male colleagues who went by 'Dr' in social media chats everyone in the department would be laughing at them.)

I think those tales sum her up quite well. She is so desperate to be famous and feel important no matter what the cost to others is isn’t she?

I suspect telling her staff that she is in touch with celebrities is part of her Emperor's New Clothes strategy, to dazzle them so much they don't question aspects of their work that they would otherwise find very questionable. But that aside, she is clearly desperate to have celebrity friends. When Julie Bindel and some of the more influential Filia crowd started taking a dim view of her she didn't give them the Sally-Ann treatment. At first I thought it was because she was afraid they would give as good as they got and she would be exposed, but now I think she has a kind of craven respect for celebrity and she won't risk burning bridges with people she sees as having status.

 

[butterjamcream]

I've just noticed that she uses her title even in the WhatsApp chat and I cringed so much I nearly dropped my phone. (No, this is not my wild envy talking - I have a doctorate. Nor is it internalised misogyny - if I had male colleagues who went by 'Dr' in social media chats everyone in the department would be laughing at them.)



I suspect telling her staff that she is in touch with celebrities is part of her Emperor's New Clothes strategy, to dazzle them so much they don't question aspects of their work that they would otherwise find very questionable. But that aside, she is clearly desperate to have celebrity friends. When Julie Bindel and some of the more influential Filia crowd started taking a dim view of her she didn't give them the Sally-Ann treatment. At first I thought it was because she was afraid they would give as good as they got and she would be exposed, but now I think she has a kind of craven respect for celebrity and she won't risk burning bridges with people she sees as having status.

When she spoke about speaking to Amber (or insert any name) the staff were told in **the strictest confidence**. You know the kind of thing! 'Oh my god, you are my trusted inner circle, I have something massive to tell you, totally confidential'- I'm not quoting her verbatim, but you get the gist. So the easily impressed feel like they are the special crew in 'the know' with Hollywood. importantly they may tell their friends, but they won't do it publicly. She won't be accountable.

She did the same with Jess Philips MP. In this case I don't doubt she had some kind of relationship with her. After all VAWG services were under her remit re APPGs. But this was inflated to 'speaking to her all the time because she knows what its like to be trolled/ she helped me in my darkest hour/ I couldn't have got through it without her/ she is always there for me". Sorry Jessica. I know how hard MP's work how little time they have, I doubt very much these calls were frequent and constant as she said they were, if they happened at all.....

It is a highly manipulative way of likening herself, grouping herself with the top table. It is also socialising the issue ie don't have ANY DOUBTS about me because all the women you like and respect LOVE me.....

 

[FogOfWar]

I love the idea that American celebs are queueing up to talk to her :

« Get me a famous / popular shrink! »
« Sure, there must be loads in the US »
« No, no, go the UK, I need a shrink 6000 miles away »
« Great idea Amber / Jada, the cut-glass RP accent will awe the slack-jawed yokels here »
« duck no, get me a witch from Stoke that no-one here can understand »

 

[MrsOgre]

Yikes, it's a bit too early in the day to be drinking isn't it Jess?

 

[Jessterday]

YAS QUEEN U R SO WISE

 

[KellyP81]

Yikes, it's a bit too early in the day to be drinking isn't it Jess?
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It should be funny, but given her recent guff about suicide etc I honestly find her posts like this quite sinister. She seems to be trying to build a following of ppl who believe mental illness isn't real, this is inevitably going to include ppl WITH severe mental illness who aren't taking their meds and have distrust (most likely with good reason) of formal services etc. Ppl who are prone to conspiratorial and magical thinking. Her talk of mass social grooming, alien life etc could really set someone off. We were told in no uncertain terms at MIND to never discuss politics, conspiracy theories etc in front of service users because of the potential to feed psychosis/delusion or cause further distress to those with clinical depression which of course can often lead to that sort of existential despair. As everyone here will know these are both big risk factors for suicidality. What is she honestly playing at? If you're going to set yourself up as an expert on mental health you have a responsibility to your followers. Shes either completely without conscience or quite mentally ill herself.