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Rocknrolla

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I’d stop giving her food as a distraction, this is a reward she will begin to think if she keeps barking she’ll get a treat. Dogs behaving badly on channel5 is a really good programme for tips if you can get it on catch up x
 
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Barbie2020

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Can’t you consider getting a behavioural trainer before thinking of rehoming?

People really need to start thinking of these things when they get dogs and that they aren’t always going to be a well behaved cute dog. Mine is a pain in the arse sometimes, doesn’t like people she doesn’t know or any dogs but I couldn’t think of rehoming her.

If she’s already been rehomed imagine the upset for her going through that again. I’m sorry to be harsh but it doesn’t really sound like you’ve done the best for her. I had a specialist trainer come out when I had issues.

Also to add you say she has walks and toys. Does she get enough attention and love? It’s good she has walks and toys but I get the impression she’s palmed off a lot or shut away.
 
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Welshgal

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My dog is similar in a way, he barks a lot at visitors, sometimes us or the tv but he eventually stops and calms down. Does she calm down at all? Not just with food but with some cuddles? Strict no maybe?

I’m not sure what’s the best thing to do with your dog, as she’s obviously traumatized and mine is just a dick who get’s kicked out into the hall until he’s calmed down. Have you tired this sort of punishment? Sometimes dogs can test their limits just like small kids, and if you only ever given her food in return for the barking it might be a habit now?
Can you reach out to a professional dog trainer?

Sorry I don’t have the best of advise to give but please do not re-home her 🥺 This is a dog that has already suffered a lot and re-homing would only cause her more pain and issues.
 
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Magwitch

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I’d stop giving her food as a distraction, this is a reward she will begin to think if she keeps barking she’ll get a treat. Dogs behaving badly on channel5 is a really good programme for tips if you can get it on catch up x
This, 100%.

The origins of this behaviour is obviously something else and I would strongly suggest a session with a dog behaviourist who can help you get to the bottom of it and come up with strategies to cope with it. BUT in the meantime stop placating her with food. I know it's hard, but remember that by doing that you are just reinforcing the barking. You say she's really obedient and good with training, and what you are doing is basically training her to bark more, in the same way that you taught her to sit, stay etc with treats. It's not a solution and is just making her behaviour worse.
 
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Taythomlau

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Yes! my sister rehomed an 18 month old lab cross german shepherd who'd by that point had had 5 homes! One person had him a day and took him back :-(. My sister and her partner have been through the worst with him and his behavioural issues (caused by stupid humans!!) but they followed mh advice, persisted and they're so glad they did. 90% of his behavioural issues have resolved or are minor minor annoyances and they've had him for two beautiful years now - he's definitely found his forever home. There were times they toyed with the idea of rehoming, but this was a fleeting thought and they knew they couldn't do that to do, it's not his fault he was treated so badly by humans :-( He tok would bark in their face whilst they were sat watching TV or doing anything, and he's a big dog. They also fed him or played with him when he did this which made it worse, as, like the other responses have said... This is rewarding that behaviour. I so wish I could get in touch with you to properly try to help!

Basically, the Internet is your best friend. Type in the unwanted behaviour and how to stop it on YouTube, join a rescue dogs tips and advice page on Facebook. You've done the right thing of asking on forums.
Also someone recommended the Pet Corrector, not everyone would agree with that but my sister has used it in the past and I must say it does work but please YouTube how to use it effectively to make sure you're using it properly. I've seen people not use it right at all and it's created new behavioural issues.

The main thing is is to ignore the behaviour (unless you're using the Pet Corrector). If you're sat doing something and your dog is barking at you, just ignore it. It'll be hard, but worth it. No eye contact, no smiling, no reaction, no food/treats and no negative reaction (e.g shouting, pushing etc) just completely ignore it. Then when the dog stops and goes and sits down or leaves you alone (which they will do after so long of getting no reaction but might be a while because its been rewarded for so long) then say "good dog" and reward! And continue this until the unwanted behaviour stops.

I wish you the best of luck, thanks for not giving up on him/her and please keep us updated with how you get on!! Sending love and positive energy, I promise you I know it's not easy but itll work out!
 
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Ottilie

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If you feed a dog when they are doing something they shouldn't such as barking you are effectively rewarding the behaviour and she will think you want her to continue.

What happens if you ignore her? Any type of communication when she is behaving like that weather is it talking to her, stroking her is only going to reinforce the behaviour because she is trying to get your attention and you are giving it to her. If your sitting on the sofa try getting up, walking away and completely ignoring her. If your all in the hot tub and she starts barking, get out and ignore her. Repeat the process and see how she responds. She might just be attention seeking!

You need to reward her positive behaviour when she is calm and relaxed and ignore her when she is barking, which sounds really hard I know!

Think of it this way. If a child was deliberately doing something they shouldn't be in order to get your attention would you respond to it? Or would you ignore it and walk away? Its often the same with dogs. You don't react to negative behaviour or your firm and you reward positive.

If someone calls you and she starts barking go into another room or put the phone down. Again you can practice this by getting a friend to call or maybe your partner from a different room. She needs to learn to stop responding to things by barking!

It sounds like she needs training. When people come around she needs to learn how to respond in a calm way. Do you have a good friend who could help you by coming around and trying to work on your dogs obedience. If she starts jumping up at people they need to turn around and ignore her. You need to teach your dog to be calm by 'sitting', 'laying' down or just calmly approaching visitors when they come around. Only then should your dog be rewarded with lots of praise and cuddles!

If this is down to trauma from her previous home then perhaps you could speak to your vet? They may be able to offer some advice or recommend a trainer.

This is going to be hard but you can do it, you clearly love your dog very much! We have a rescue dog and it's not easy!
 
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Serious_Susan

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Yeah - she’s very loved here, she seems to be super needy (my partner Jokes she’s me in dog form!)

It’s really strange because in terms of training she’s ‘perfect’ and obediant. It’s just the constant barking and unrest. I’ve emailed a local behaviourit’s to arrange a visit.

Thank you.
 
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Barbie2020

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Thanks for your replies - sorry my thinking of rehoming her wasn’t meant as in I’m going to rehome her - more that my mind is in a ‘i can’t tolerate this every day for the rest of her life‘ place. We would of course consider all our options.

She get’s more attention and love than you can imagine, it just never seems to be enough for her. She’s never palmed off nor shut away - I think I’ve given a really bad impression of what our life with her is like.

I do think something has traumatised her, what exctly I’m not sure - I guess I was just looking for examples of where people have been in a similar position and the outcome has been positive.
Sorry for judging your situation wrong 😃 I’m glad she’s loved and you aren’t actually considering rehoming.

I would definitely look into a behavioural trainer for her. Some can be expensive but it will be worth it to have a better home life. I imagine her first home wasn’t a very happy one and she probably wasn’t trained at all hence the issues now.
 
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Serious_Susan

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Thanks for your replies - sorry my thinking of rehoming her wasn’t meant as in I’m going to rehome her - more that my mind is in a ‘i can’t tolerate this every day for the rest of her life‘ place. We would of course consider all our options.

She get’s more attention and love than you can imagine, it just never seems to be enough for her. She’s never palmed off nor shut away - I think I’ve given a really bad impression of what our life with her is like.

I do think something has traumatised her, what exctly I’m not sure - I guess I was just looking for examples of where people have been in a similar position and the outcome has been positive.
 
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standupsitdown

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I agree that you need a professional dog behaviourist. This is why they exist. Ask for local recommendations.
They will observe and point things out that seem obvious that you won’t believe haven’t occurred to you, and things you are doing that make things worse without realising. It a whole family effort and everyone need to be on board.
Good ones are worth every penny and with hard work on everyone’s part you can have a lovely well behaved dog.
 
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GossipMongoose

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Yeah - she’s very loved here, she seems to be super needy (my partner Jokes she’s me in dog form!)

It’s really strange because in terms of training she’s ‘perfect’ and obediant. It’s just the constant barking and unrest. I’ve emailed a local behaviourit’s to arrange a visit.

Thank you.
My dog (also a lab) can be reactive to visitors in the house. He barks and gets silly (no aggression) but is muscular and loud so can be intimidating. Great when you get cold caller door knockers, not so great when the cleaner comes and he’s going apeshit behind the baby gate 🙄. He is well socialised and I’ve had him from 8wks and he came from a wonderful breeder, I met his mother, grandmother and great grandmother as the breeder keeps her girls once they’ve finished their breeding years. So I know his history and the line he comes from, all very calm and lovely. As is he apart from this one thing. So I feel your pain and it isn’t just rescue dogs that have this issue. Like all things dog training, it’s baby steps to train them out of it and into the wanted behaviours. Best of luck with your behaviourist appointment 🙂
 
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101d

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Have you tried different foods? To see if maybe its that

My mates dog was the exact same an turned out she was allergic to wheat so they had to get food that didn't contain it an it all cleared up for her, she's apparently allergic to grass as well so she couldn't let her into the garden

My boy used to be on bakers till we got told it was basically junk food, so we started paying for the more expensive brands like wainwright's an well beloved an omg his fur literally started coming out in clumps an he was constantly scratching, so we thought nah an went back to bakers but got the no preservatives one an he complete cleared up
Yes, we’ve been through the same with our Bedlington. It took years to learn all of the below, so hopefully I’ve saved some leg work! 😉

Firstly, ask your vet to ensure it’s allergies and not a fungal or bacterial infection on the skin. Malaseb is a good shampoo for fungal issues, or the vet can help with bacterial.

I’d also suggest adding Complederm to the dog’s food, as it helps strengthen their skin barrier. It’s a liquid a bit like olive oil and most dogs love it!

Also, don’t bother allergy testing. All dogs are allergic to loads of stuff, so it’s pointless (advice from a consultant veterinary dermatologist). A better way is to try eliminating things one at a time - I’d start with diet (including treats) as the most common allergens are proteins and grains. A lot of dog food says it’s good for allergies but in reality it’s not - I’d suggest Purina HA for six weeks to see if that helps, as it’s truly hypoallergenic.

You could also try changing the washing powder used on their bedding, shampoo, grooming products, etc and see if any of that makes a difference. You can also eliminate dust as an allergen, by using a spray called Indorex on your carpets and soft furnishings - it’s about £13 from Amazon and you do it once every six months.

If none of that helps, I’d suggest you try to get Cytopoint injections for the dog - they block the itch receptors and they’re honestly absolutely miraculous for most dogs.They solved our dog’s itching problems after years of stress, and they work within 24 hours. They do need to be given monthly tho, and it’s around £60-90 per injection, so one for your insurance if you have it!

Your vet will most likely suggest Apoquel, but it’s a horrible steroid which, if used long term, can lead to blindness, deafness, organ failure and all sorts of other nasty things. It also makes the dog drink and pee a lot - sometimes uncontrollably. You can just flat refuse it and ask for Cytopoint instead as it has no known side effects.

Sorry for the essay, but I hope that helps. It can be horrible to watch your dog suffer, but there is hope - ours used to make himself bleed with scratching but now he has no issues at all (largely down to Cytopoint - it really is amazing). 🤞😘 xx
Thank you both SO much! Yes tried lots of different foods and cutting out treats. Unfortunately can’t claim for anything to do with allergies with our insurance as it’s down as a pre existing condition 😫

We have been using Coatex shampoo which helps. Piriton daily. Just started giving him some coconut oil as well. (Hopefully he isn’t allergic to that. Lol) Our vet did mention Cytopoint injections last time we saw him. Think we may have to give it a go. Expensive but hopefully worth it for my poor boy. Xx
 
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Fizzwhizz2020

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Labs are beautiful dogs and very easy to train as they’re so intelligent. I’ve always had labs. It sounds like your dog needs constant attention and you’re in a vicious circle, because when the dog barks, you feed her. It would be worth getting a behavioural specialist in for a few hours to give you some tips. One thing I’d recommend is when she barks, hold your hand up in a stop motion and make a loud quick noise. If she stops barking, give a little reward. Or, if she doesn’t, take her into another room and turn away from her. When she stops barking, then give a reward. Labs are gorgeous and they’re very trainable, you just need the right tools. But once she’s trained you’ll get so much enjoyment out of her x
 
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I’m not sure if you’ve already tried but when my puppy used to go crazy and not settle id shake a bottle filled with stones and he’d stop or at least calm down significantly. It definitely sounds like you need a trainer/behaviourist long term but short term that might help?
 
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Very traditional

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Does anyone have any tips on preparing a dog for a new baby (ours, not his) I’m worried he will feel left out or jealous. He’s a spoilt German Shepherd who’s 2 years old, he’s very protective of us both, especially my partner who he lived with before me. I’m only 15 weeks but I think he knows something is up as he keeps sniffing my belly and has been putting his paw on my thigh a lot and staring at my belly, and dropping his bone in to my lap so I’ve been telling him that our baby is in me and that he has to help look after it (I know he doesn’t really know what I’m saying but it feels right to explain to him) I’ve done some googling and got some ideas but any really life tips really appreciated
 
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Former_Antelopee

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The plug ins people have mentioned to help with stress - adaptil or pet remedy as the two I know. You can also get collar versions and sprays as well.
 
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Merpedy

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We used to use pet corrector for unwanted barking and tbf it worked rather well. We got to the point where we just needed to pick the spray bottle up for them to stop

Of course, always reward wanted behaviour
 
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