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Yep, it's a horrifying, albeit very common, view held by many women, sadly.

Has anyone seen the clip of Carole Malone on Jeremy Vine's show saying how these famous men who abuse basically 'fall victim' to being surrounded by these girls?
Carole Malone is an opinionated, loud gobshite. Note- she can dish out 'offence' but can never take it, nor valid criticism, back. She was a real coward during the Jade Goody/ Shilpa Shetty debacle when they were all on CBB. Never stuck out for Shilpa, despite being more senior of the group. She didn't because she'd 'met her match' in Jade, someone who could be more vicious and louder than her, when she wanted to be. Malone bullied Anne Diamond relentlessly on Celebrity Fit Club. She also used to write for the Daily Mirror, a Labour paper before switching to the right wing press. I'd take anything she says with a pich of salt. On the Jeremy Vine show, she is often caught out on her opinions by more erudite, smarter panellists who are well-researched and know their facts. It is a joy to see. She thinks that shouting or talking over someone wins her argument.
 
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Carole Malone is an opinionated, loud gobshite. Note- she can dish out 'offence' but can never take it, nor valid criticism, back. She was a real coward during the Jade Goody/ Shilpa Shetty debacle when they were all on CBB. Never stuck out for Shilpa, despite being more senior of the group. She didn't because she'd 'met her match' in Jade, someone who could be more vicious and louder than her, when she wanted to be. Malone bullied Anne Diamond relentlessly on Celebrity Fit Club. She also used to write for the Daily Mirror, a Labour paper before switching to the right wing press. I'd take anything she says with a pich of salt. On the Jeremy Vine show, she is often caught out on her opinions by more erudite, smarter panellists who are well-researched and know their facts. It is a joy to see. She thinks that shouting or talking over someone wins her argument.
She's a horrible woman, with no redeeming features whatsoever. I doesn't surprise me that she places the blame for grape on the victims. :(
 
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Just seen on Sky news, police saying it’s separate allegations to those in the guardian article 👀
Yes, BBC says that too.

The Met said that the allegations being investigated are separate from those reported by ITN and The Guardian, but as "part of their investigation, detectives are also proactively reviewing that reporting to establish whether there is any evidence of offences".

BBC News - Police investigating David Walliams over alleged serious sexual offences
 
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Good news about the investigation. It's funny, Tattle is often accused of being a cesspit - yet the women's rights stance on here is much stronger than on so many other places.
 
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I'm GenX and I understand what you mean. Few of my peers chose Physics at school. I did & STEM degree & pursued a career in a male dominated world so I wouldn't consider myself subservient or lacking a belief that I'm at least equal to them. I've had city boys stare at my chest & had to stare at their balls to back them the duck off. Shouldn't be that way & yes it's better now but superficially. Some men just resent women.

Recently I was fairly called out on this site & I needed to own it & reflect. I had made a judgemental comment in a personal anecdote about a buxom school contempary many years ago for being exploited by older boys. I was not not seeing a bigger picture. Partly it was me being spiteful as her actions had humiliated me as she & my crush mocked me. But yeah comments matter and people are influenced by unhelpful baggage.

As an adult I've stood up to men exploiting women whether it was a M senior partner sexually harassing a young 40s F mother returner to work or my peers perving over the potential admin hires. I was astonished and appalled by a female colleague of my age simping that men was so clever & capable in a meeting. It's always about power and whether women can be silenced or squashed.

The women who stood up to Brand are incredibly courageous and there are women enablers (TV execs, assistants & entourage & others) who are due a reckoning.
Not entirely on topic but I’ve been reflecting a lot on how men are enabled to harass women. I remembered an incident in All Bar One years ago when me and some female friends were being horrifically verbally harassed by a group of drunk city boys and we complained to the bar staff. They told us the men were wracking up a massive bill which put our bottle of wine into the shade so basically they weren’t going to intervene.

I was trying to remember when it was so I thought I’d look up All Bar One on Wikipedia. “The concept was designed by Bass as a 'female friendly' bar at a time when many pubs and bars were considered intimidating places for single women to go and drink or eat, with glass frontages, open-plan space, and bright, airy interiors.”

You couldn’t make it up really. FFS
 
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If I had to guess, I'd say Ross was more of an enabler. As in, he was well aware of his friends' actions (how could he not be?) and was the type to encourage them or laugh it off. He moved in permissive circles at a time when sexist, lad culture attitudes were the norm. His permissiveness might also have extended to not batting an eyelid at sexual assault and grooming.

I do remember an interview he did with Teri Hatcher (Desperate Housewives) on his talk show. I just googled and it must have been way back in 2006. Anyway, she was describing being sexually assaulted by her masseuse and Ross interjected to ask whether she was lying on her back or on her front, just turning it into a joke. Even 14-year old me knew how inappropriate it was to respond to a public SA disclosure like that.



Rik Mayall. Stephen Fry caught a ferry to Belgium without telling anyone of his plans, so there was media speculation that he'd harmed himself. I thought it had more to do with negative reviews, though? Fry admits to being hypersensitive to criticism.
I've seen on another message board (not sure I'm allowed to name it) that Fry was being blackmailed by a 13 year old boy he was abusing and that's why he did a bunk.
 
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I’m not shocked at all, it was only a matter of time before someone went to the police with their story. My thoughts are with those poor girls and women. I hope they’ve got a good support system ☹
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the victims are men too. I don't believe he didn't ever abuse boys, especially after seeing that video of him on stage with those teens.
 
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I haven't seen anything about this. Snooker table?
Very old story, cant remember deets, it was about a lad and a snooker table. A mate saw it too I will ask them. Used to be able to google it but then he publicised his ongoing love of snooker and the story, true or not, got buried. there could be remnants in old archived goss forums.
 
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Very old story, cant remember deets, it was about a lad and a snooker table. Used to be able to google it but then he publicised his ongoing love of snooker and the story, true or not, got buried. there could be remnants in old archived goss forums.
Ah ok. The message board I've seen Fry talked about doesn't mention this, likely because it's been buried as you said.

To stay on topic, we had some of Walliams books for younger kids, like Snake in the School and First Hippo on the Moon. My daughter liked them when she was 4 but they weren't her favourites. She's now 11 and I've purged the house of any Walliams rit.
 
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I think 16 is very young to have sex, but that has nothing to do with driving cars, drinking or voting, and those things have nothing to do with one another. I think it is young because a 16 year old is immature, and sexual relationships have huge potential for being exploitative.
We say that 16 year olds can’t drink, vote or drive because those are actions that have potentially serious consequences. So actually, IMO, they aren’t so different at all.

I've now seen a few comments on reddit repeating the rumour that Walliams castrated himself prior to forcibly being taken to a mental health facility. I would think if it was true some credible news source would be running the story but maybe they don't want to for fear of backlash.

It will all come out eventually anyway, just like the allegations.
The media absolutely would not be repeating private medical information even if it was true.

I knew about Antonio Carluccio stabbing himself in the chest years (because I knew someone who knew someone who knew about it) years before it eventually made the press, and that was because AC himself spoke about it.
 
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