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are we still talking about tinky winky?
Apologies if I have missed the information but other than Jonathan Ross being mates with these people and the comment made in his speech, has he actually done anything else that we know of that has been questionable?
I find it hard to believe that interns, runners, researchers etc on TV shows, on radio etc.. all know about things / heard rumours but Jonathan Ross knew absolutely nothing of their behaviour
Also just how close was he to Walliams and Brand? Was it a work friendship or did it extend further?
I find it hard to believe that interns, runners, researchers etc on TV shows, on radio etc.. all know about things / heard rumours but Jonathan Ross knew absolutely nothing of their behaviour
Also just how close was he to Walliams and Brand? Was it a work friendship or did it extend further?
You can add to that Coronation St & Dr Who character actor Eric Potts. Hes being sentanced tomorrow for child porn photos.
Noel Clarke starts trial at Southwark very soon.
Jenas did more than sext women behind his wife's back. He was sending unsolicited fool pics to women.
I think a file goes to the CPS and they decide if there’s enough evidence for a trial
While I take your point that it’s rampant across the entertainment industry, the BBC positions itself as the nation‘s trusted broadcaster. We pay for it whether we want to or not.
And while I think the trust from the general public is waning, it’s embedded in many of the older generation who think anyone employed by the BBC is an all round good egg. It provides a veil of legitimacy that doesn’t apply to broadcasters.
And it’s not as rife in other industries because ‘the talent’ isn’t deified to the same extent.
Yeah I think that Ross is an enabler rather than a creep himself. Of course I’m prepared to be proven wrong about that
True king. Loved his dogs too
I thought he had scarpered off into the African wilderness?
Yeah, and she also looks miserable compared to the others around the table. Iirc this is the woman who said she had nowhere to live, Walliams suggested she stay at his place, then every night he'd try to persuade her to sleep with him. She said that after a couple of weeks he became very cold towards her and she left. I think this story is so revealing, not just because it describes him preying on someone clearly young and vulnerable, but also because it shows him to be very callous when that person can't be manipulated into having sex.
Those leaked BGT comments are also pretty cruel and show how much disdain/vitriol he must have for women. And yet he claims to be a gentleman who just likes the company of beautiful women - yeah, right!!
he also said that it was shown to him prior to be show and he was happy with it - he may not have written it, but it's not like it was sprung on him, he had the opportunity to refuse to include it if he thought it. was inappropriate. he said he thought the joke was a reference to Walliams' preference for dating women younger than him - younger but of legal age not actual CHILDREN, yet the reference was specifially to 15 year olds, so that's a tit excuse tbh.
guaranteed they aren't silhouettes of the individuals though - a resemblance perhaps, but it's the media, they WANT to cause speculation in the same way they use sensationalist headlines. to me, the second silhoutte is giving Jimmy Carr - and I very much doubt it's him. I feel like Kathrine Ryan has a good radar in terms of recognising which men are creeps, and Jimmy is one of her best friends. can't imagine she would know him THAT well and still not pick up on it if he was a predator.
It did cross my mind that perhaps these people didn't know. People have had whole other relationships, kids and lives on the side and their partner had no idea 
The BBC, a state owned broadcaster which we are forced to pay for, spent decades enabling and covering up for one of the worst individual pedalos in recorded world history*.
Can you imagine if GB News did that? Sky? The Sun? A premier league football club? They'd be shut down pronto and the enablers arrested.
Not having a go at you @duskwithoutdawn but honestly anyone who thinks the BBC still deserves to exist after enabling one of the worst individual pedalos in recorded world history* can absolutely get the fuk out of here, I mean come on, put it in it's correct perspective, it's horrifying, get the fuk outta here, gimme a break.
*Credible estimates put his total number of victims in the thousands. In addition, Savile was a necrophile. Furthermore, in the 1990s a whistleblower from what is now West Yorkshire Constabulary reported that in the 1980s police had wanted to investigate Savile for his links to the Yorkshire Ripper but were dissuaded by bosses from doing so. He was questioned and one senior officer, John Stainthorpe, felt he should be looked at more closely, as he told The Guardian years later.
As everyone knows (or should), Ripper victim Marguerite Walls' body was found in Savile's back garden of his house in Leeds. About 5 of Sutcliffe's victims were killed in Leeds which police felt was strange as it was not his 'home turf'. It was, of course, Savile's, and the scene for many of his early attacks when he was a DJ there. As we also know, Savile was a regular visitor of Sutcliffe's in Broadmoor.
I’ve worked with two guys who were- separately- imprisoned for grape. One of them I didn’t know that well but still didn’t think he would be capable. The other I knew quite well out of work. Had no reason to believe he’d ever do anything like it, no behavioural red flags for me or anything, I think even if I saw him now, I think a small part of me would still doubt the verdict
. I’m not stupid, but I think sometimes in people, there is an element of self protection, whereby you can’t let yourself believe what someone you like/ love has done because the consequences are just too overwhelming to bear. Then follows the penny dropping moment. Of course, I’ve also met men who were ‘handsy’, ‘creepy’ and who I wouldn’t want to spend time alone with. And they’re still out there doing it!I don't know where you read this but Marguerite Wall's body was found in the garden of a local magistrate - the house was named Claremont and was on New Street. Farsley which is 11kms from Leeds.
Edit - Jimmy S only had a flat in Roundhay Park not a house.
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I didn't know any of this regarding the physical proximity of Sutcliffe's victims to Savile. I can't believe that was coincidence. Every time I hear something about these men it brings out more and more horror.
It can depend very much on the individual production companies. An HR department isn't actually a legal requirement for a workplace.
Ironically as much as people want to decry them, a big organisation like the BBC probably will have an HR department BUT a lot of production staff won't be necessarily employed by them directly. Instead they'll be likely contracted with a production company (usually for the length of a specific project or a set period) so that's their employer. Just because a show is broadcast on the BBC/ITV/C4 ≠ being a BBC/ITV/C4 produced show either.
And the TV/entertainment industry can have so many moving parts within one production - subcontractors, freelancers, joint productions - that it's really not like any other workplace.
And that's the point. While there's unions like BECTU or Equity, there's no real oversight for the workplace culture. Ofcom regulates what gets broadcast, but not how it was made.
'Management' at the production company I worked for were effectively Project Managers who also handled the employees, with no HR/management training. Hence my issue where you had one boss was really invested in the mentoring and development aspect of being a manager, while the other one was a very hands off, 'learn by doing' person, meaning the exact same job role was totally different based on who you reported to.
Yeah there's nothing to suggest Saville owned that house.