David Walliams #2

[L3moning]

NDAs and injunctions can't stop someone reporting a crime to the police or talking to a lawyer or their MP¹, so anything that claims to do that is unenforceable. How many people actually know that is a different question.

¹funnily enough they don't usually try to do that one, because its generally a good way to get it asked about in the House of Commons, which can be reported with no restrictions at all.

 

[MarshMallowMonster]

Wouldn’t Matt Lucas have known what Walliams was like? They worked closely together for many years.

They fell out but reconnected.

Verifying Device

I’ve a pal in the TV Biz he is quite high up.

Walliams and Brand were known for being pervy.

Why the tolerance for them for so long.

 

[JARhead]

Why the tolerance for them for so long.

$$$$$ and misogyny.

 

[Miscanthus]

Lucy Beaumont has definitely gone way up in my estimation, I’ll support all her terrible pottery making attempts in future.
We need more strong women to stand by those who need someone to lean on when times are hard.

I was thinking exactly the same thing. She really irritated me on Pottery Throwdown and (seemingly) deliberately being useless! I really respect what she's been doing behind the scenes now.
Isn't it f*cked up when you are worried about losing work if you are a whistle-blower but not if you are are the one doing the sexual harassment (and worse)!

 

[SweetPerdita]

Sorry I had multiple tabs open and thought I posted the above in the Celeb Gossip thread!

 

[Fannii Minogue]

The people whose misconduct has been exposed in the last 3 years

- Schofield
- Huw Edwards
- Gregg Wallace
- Gino D’Campo
- Russell Brand
- Walliams
- Graziano Di Prima
- Giovanni Pernice
- Scott Mills
- Jermaine Jenas

All within 3 years. Perhaps adding Jermaine into that last is a tad unfair- as far as I know, and for want of a better term, “all” he did was sext other women behind his wife’s back, and he did at least have the decency to reflect and apologise rather than go on about how he’d been victimised, but still… a lot of misconduct

 

[Serene Serena]

I think showbiz has always been sleazy and corrupt, rife with predatory men, but it’s only now women feel able to speak up about the abuse they have endured.
Walliams deserves all the hurt feelings and sadness he claims to be suffering from, it’s nothing compared to the trauma his victims have experienced.

 

[wearedoomed]

Lots of mentions of Wossie in the papers this morning, wonder if they are hinting at the other celebrity with the NDA?

 

[MarshMallowMonster]

The people whose misconduct has been exposed in the last 3 years

- Schofield
- Huw Edwards
- Gregg Wallace
- Gino D’Campo
- Russell Brand
- Walliams
- Graziano Di Prima
- Giovanni Pernice
- Scott Mills
- Jermaine Jenas

All within 3 years. Perhaps adding Jermaine into that last is a tad unfair- as far as I know, and for want of a better term, “all” he did was sext other women behind his wife’s back, and he did at least have the decency to reflect and apologise rather than go on about how he’d been victimised, but still… a lot of misconduct

Scott Mills kinda has a nice life doesn’t he. He sailed off into the sunset under some shadow.

Chris Moyles is horrid, his Charlotte Church chat was disgusting.

He offered to her to take her virginity. She was 15 and the audience laughed a lot. 2002.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

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For a terrible moment I thought it was Kryten, but the head is too round.

Forgive me, Kryten - I should never have doubted you.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

On another thread it was implied that the other person might be Lord Downton. I am sure I read something about him previously. I will try to find it.


Edited to.add he did have an injunction a few years ago. Something to do with using sex workers.

I can remember that, too. It was most unsavoury.

IF he is the culprit, I just hope he doesn't drag Paddington Bear down with him.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

I don't think it's just parents I think it's an entire culture kind of thing.

Our culture lionises the internet, phones and social media way too much. Now don't get me wrong I love me a bit of social media especially TATTLE. But when tik tok trends are driving our entire culture then i think we are teaching the youth the wrong values, we are privileging short termism and attention-seeking behaviour over the inner self, education and perseverance. Our culture in current day rewards narcissism and using other people for one's own ends which is how narc creeps and abusers get to flourish.

All of this - and I would add that it not only destroys our children's critical thinking skills, and encourages them to be impressed with surface gloss and a snappy soundbite (which is how we have this shower of mit government), but it gives parents who actually try to properly parent an almost impossible task. Disciplining children - not just by teachers but by parents themselves - is rendered almost impossible, and in some situations even put the parent on the wrong side of the law (eg a parent refusing to use a child's "preferred pronouns", no matter how ridiculous may even land them in court and the child in care, it seems with this new legislation).

Children need boundaries, for their own sakes and for the sake of society in general. Without them they grow up wild, entitled and angry. IMO this is why we our seeing adults now acting like spoiled brats when things don't go their way. China and Russia have infantilised the west, and we have let them.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

Whitehall said anything yet as the last one standing from the photo?

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I have no idea who he is.

He looks a bit "rabbit in headlights".

 

[AllSeeingEye123]

https://smry.ai/item/49296ea5-e2f2-4e0b-ab7d-25d0125d24ae?smryFrom=home

Excellent piece mentioning the pointlessness of injunctions and how old Jonathan Ross was when he met his wife.

 

[MarshMallowMonster]

Social Media is challenging parents. It didn’t exist in their own youths.

Nevertheless I see now victims of sexual crimes now speaking up. This is a shift when I remember how things were some decades ago.

It’s now known certain behaviors are unacceptable. We have voices and platforms to confide our fears and speak out.

At least in my wider circle and life experiences.

What I had to tolerate in my younger years I see victims speaking out.

No more Carry-On movies, page 3 girls, lads mags. Remember shows such as On The Buses, Benny Hill? I used to hate watching those with my folks.

 

[Libbylulu]

His explanation is obvious to me. He didn't write that joke.

He delivered it though so he must have thought there was something in it. You wouldn’t call out a random name for dating underage girls surely?

 

[Libbylulu]

Lots of mentions of Wossie in the papers this morning, wonder if they are hinting at the other celebrity with the NDA?

It’s a ballsy move on his part to release a statement about Brand & Walliams if he’s the one with an injunction out no?

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

Re the other injunction - I have seen someone “in the industry” claim that it is another “00’s comedian”, which doesn’t narrow it down much. But I think that wouldn’t include Ross. And for what it’s worth, I’d be surprised if Ross were an abuser himself (I could be wrong of course and stand to be corrected) - but he’s clearly a weak man who always hangs around other celebs and seems desperate to be in their crowd. And he turned a blind eye. I don’t think he could genuinely not have known the “tastes” of these dreadful people he hung out with.

Re Noel Fielding - not sure. There is the Pixie stuff, which we know about. And he certainly ran with Brand for a while. There was also that slightly odd business where he abandoned that Apple TV show without notice, leaving everyone high and dry. (About 2 years ago?) The explanations for that were a bit inconsistent and I did wonder if there might be something else going on behind the scenes. But he is still on Bake Off so ..

Separately, someone on X excavated this article from 2008 about Johnny Vegas. This is appalling stuff. I cant remember this at all so I guess there wasn’t that big a fuss about it at the time .. but it’s just awful.

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...eguardian.com/world/2008/may/01/gender.comedy

I'm shocked and disgusted at this - I always thought Jonny was one of the "good guys" - it just goes to show.

I hope that if I'd been in the audience I'd have tried to intervene - I've always been a lot better at defending other people than I am at defending myself, but none of us know how we'll react - especially in a situation like that where hundreds of other people are not reacting (Bystander Effect).

I didn't like that final "His solicitors have been in touch and she was fine with it". There was something threatening about that sentence at the end.

 

[L3moning]

Social Media is challenging parents. It didn’t exist in their own youths.

We are starting to get to the point where this isn't really true.

 

[DinosaurSenior]

Piers Morgan in the DM:

"Morgan, who acted as judge on the show from 2007 to 2010, held a well-documented grudge against the star and when the BGT news came to light in November 2022, he tweeted: 'Tip of the iceberg.. Walliams is one of the nastiest frauds in TV.'

He also branded Walliams 'soooooo creepy' in a tweet in May the same year.

In 2020, in an interview with The Sunday Mirror, when asked about returning to BGT, Morgan said: 'I couldn’t work with Walliams..."

I know its unfashionable but I've always had a soft spot for Piers, he says what he thinks and stands by it. Which I think is a good quality.

I've mentioned this before, but...Piers was absent with no explanation, from his breakfast TV show.

He was actually at the funeral of my friend's brother, carrying the coffin. They met whilst studying to be journalists and remained close despite their political paths going in opposite directions.

I know he's an annoying man but he seems like a loyal guy.