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DiamondPink

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Seems I've missed a lot... just caught up after a hectic half term 🙈

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Academy members leaving, they're just getting chunky. DW's having a Dantrum trying to work out "who is Funky"?
 
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natnat34

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Hi 👋 people, very long time lurker here. I am the ex member that is the ‘worst kid of person’ you guys have been so lovely with your comments after @DansBarmyArmy wrote about my story:’so thank you that!! I’m ready to stand tall and take my number please 😊😊
 
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natnat34

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Hi I’m Natalie Butler joined 80/20 in March left about 2 weeks ago!! Already had messages sent to me but I don’t care 🤷‍♀️ I am a human and can have a opinion, hear that kaz I can and will have a opinion!!
 
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JCMSadie

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So I have insufficient privileges to post a new thread 🤷‍♀️ can someone do it for me?
Same, I lost privileges a while back and I assume once you've lost them it's permanent?


I have written a recap though, if whoever creates the new thread wants to use it in the opening post?


R E C A P

Hopefully I cover all the big stuff, as I know we've had a lot of new members and I think we'll get a lot more as things continue to go down the pan at 80/20

- Dan Wheeler (Whanker to us) is a scammer who sells a "lifestyle" (diet) plan called 80/20. Claims it will cure all mental and physical illnesses, as well as help you drop weight, whilst eating an unrealistically high calorie allowance. Spoiler, it's a con.
- Claims it has a 100% no quibble money back garuntee if you don't see progress. But they make you measure yourself in 14 different places every week, and if you've lost even just 0.5cm overall in 16wks, the money back guarantee is null and void...if it even exists (despite what he claims, his T&C states that you can't ask for a refund for any reason at any point)
- Once you've handed over your money (used to be £125, then he upped it to £245 for no evidence of the "new, improved" offering), you're given generic calories and macros, and entry to a FB group where people are only allowed to praise the plan...and that's about it.
- Whanker has no qualifications besides a PT course he did online with no client or gym floor experience, and despite his claims of being a CBT practitioner he in fact did just a 1hr Groupon course rather than years at university studying psychology
- He throws his mental health diagnoses around as if they qualify him, but one (ADHD) he admits he has no diagnosis of and the other (bipolar...or is it BPD? He doesn't seem to know) is questionable, he admits he doesn't medicate for it and instead uses it as an excuse to smoke weed all day, even on "professional" lives
- He claims to specialise in obesity, but again has no qualifications. He simply lost weight himself. But this was not with 80/20, nor with SW (he went twice, despite claims it gave him an eating disorder and that he based his whole TT presence on slagging it off). He instead used intermittent fasting. He was also a body builder, but used drugs to achieve that physique. A physique he hasn't maintained, which also calls into question his claim to have kept off the weight he initially lost
- The only thing Whanker loves more than your money is being social media famous.
- He really hates being questioned, disagreed with, having mistakes/inaccuracies/dangerous practices pointed out. If you do anything except kiss his ass, he'll have a tantrum, call you a cunt/troll/Trolly Cunt, and send his huns/rottweilers on you
- Case in point, a 45min Live by Whanker called "Trolling the Trolls" was made in response to the very accurate, level headed and eloquent Trust Pilot review left by an unhappy customer (she's here, and amazing). This encouraged people to go to her account and harass her, and was coupled with death threats and threats to falsely accuse her as a paedophile, made by the 80/20 pet project Dan Jones (a man whom Whanker is "coaching" to eat himself to death under the guise of strongman training) and his wife Carla. Another 80/20 sycophant Steve Roland also created troll accounts and even contacted the woman's workplace. You wouldn't know this looking at his TT though, as Roland Rat seems desperate to want someone to give him attention for being a victim of trolls 🤔
- These threads picked up pace around that time, and we proudly declare this place Trolly Cunt HQ. Its a safe space to share experiences, critique the con, save others from being scammed and to generally laugh at it all.
- After a few months of giving dangerous advice, being a sexist twat, making empty promises to increasingly unhappy customers and just generally digging a big hole for himself, Whanker realised his was losing ground as the truth tellers' voices grew louder. So he tried to blackmail the 7 members here who raised complaints with Trading Standards - he would give a double refund to them if they shut this thread and the TT accounts calling him out. He didn't bank on them refusing to be silenced, and it blew up in his face.
- Another fitness TT made a video saying he was due to go on Whanker's podcast, and was flooded with comments of people who HATE Whanker. This was the moment DW must have realised that the only person who believes that he is "the best in the world at what he does" was, predictably, Whanker himself.
- He's now gone into hiding, refusing to show his face even for customers who are paying £49 a month for his "wisdom" Instead, his business manager Matt (MattDan) is pretending to be him in some very clickbaity and passive aggressive posts on FB, desperately trying to snare new people to scam for a service and product which never delivered on its promises even at its peak, and certainly doesn't now that half the staff have walked and Whanker is out cleaning driveways instead of honouring his paying customers (the new jetwashing business is called OCD...all this mental health expert does now is clean drives)
- More people continue to share their experiences of being scammed, bullied, abused and conned by this "alpha male" (his words, of course...no one else would call him that), most recently a TT with a high profile that he used to get his initial leg up and then shat on, and a former member who he threatened after kicking her out for being pregnant
- High profile huns (Whanker groupies) are now also seeing the light and leaving in droves

Please note, as long as this "short" recap is...it's only the tip of the iceberg. The previous 11 threads show the whole story.

Despite what is claimed, us here are not trolls. We are a combination of unhappy former customers, victims of this man's bullying and abuse, people who want to stop this scam stealing money from more people, or those who just can't tear themselves away from the car crash that is Whanker (he has been pulling the same scam in slightly different guises for nearly 10yrs, and the cycle is always the same). So grab a cuppa, say hello, someone will award you your TCHQ number (now at over 111 members...a far cry from the 6 "crazy" women Whanker likes to claim are behind the "trolling"), and watch the show. Everyone welcome, even former huns...most of us were conned at some point, so no hate or judgement. Just a warm welcome for seeing the light.
 
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DansBarmyArmy

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Well Mr Wheeler isnt gonna be happy, but I have just had a lovely conversation with one of his Legends who came and found me for a chat...

I can't screenshot anything as there was too much there and could possibly give them away, but let's just say that the general feeling from this person was as we have been expecting.

They had seen lots of red flags that had been making them feel uncomfortable for a while, and they say hes very unprofessional.

Legends are essentially paying him to be part of a group where they do the hard work. Theres a list of rules that you have to complete in order to keep your Legend status, including attending lives and answering questions in the Academy.

This person did as much as they could to fulfill the expectations, all in their own time and UNPAID but if you don't come in the top 10, you are told to improve

This Legend tells me that they were originally part of a WhatsApp group in which the Almighty Leader was included in, and he sometimes contributed to. This was used to ask Qs if they werent sure how to answer a member but this was moved to another platform. Nobody has any interaction with Dan and the only time he bothers to make an effort is to tell people they need to do more, making this Legend feel like he thinks hes too good enough to speak to them now. Since posts are now moderated in the Academy, the platform is used for general chit chat and nothing 8020 related is discussed


The Legend I spoke to feels the plan has a lot of potential, if he could be bothered to make the effort but in their words '' hes beem given the success and squandered it''

I have to say none of this surprised me, and although a very small snapshot of the situation, I am fairly certain this person isn't the only one feeling this way.

If anyone is reading this thread and is worried about posting on here - come and find me and I will do it for you...its not too difficult to find me and I will keep everything anonymous. I will never share anything without your permission nor will I give out your identity. There was far too much incriminating info in my exchange with this Legend to use screenshots but they have given me consent to share the general gist of our conversation.

We all know what Dan can be like, just know that TCHQ arent like that. We are all in this together ❤
 
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RachRN86

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I'm really struggling to understand why Sherlock Steve has got his testicles in a tangle over all this. Are you OK hun? Who hurt you?

Get some perspective..
1. Does DW pay you? No
2. Has the bad reviews got anything to do with you personally? No
3. Are you letting bad reviews of a diet plan take over your life? Yes
4. Would DW throw you under a bus to save himself? In a heartbeat.

YOU are trying to ruin an innocent person's career/life over a BAD TRUSTPILOT REVIEW. You are not a staff member or even a friend of DW. Get a grip man! It's not that deep for you. Grow up
 
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yousaid

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Amber if you’re reading this don’t fall their shit. if you need someone to talk to or go for coffee I’m around, we can support each other together - you’ll probably work out who this is, you know where to find me x
 
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TalktomeGoose606

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I celebration of all things witchy, as its my favourite day of the year, I am not just revealing my name but my face, (because that hat needs a head) I'd like to, at this point say, I've never been afraid to reveal my identity, I'm Andie, you may have seen me over on the place that sounds like a clock. I'm much scarier than wheeler could ever try to emulate, or his little hun brigade... HAPPY HALLOWEEN TCHQ 🎃👻💀🧟‍♂️🧛‍♂️🧙‍♀️
 
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DansBarmyArmy

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I just have to quickly mention this as it shows just how supportive everyone is.

I just got a message from the ex member I spoke about a few days ago who had been called 'the worst kind of person' for asking about Dan on a live.

They wanted to reach out to the Legend I posted about earlier, and to offer a supportive ear to someone in a similar position.

I am not gonna lie, that made my heart warm.

Whilst Whanker and co think we are out here trolling, causing problems and are generally horrible people, we are actually standing together, fighting together and supporting one another.

We are good people. ❤
 
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DansBarmyArmy

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A couple of weeks back I had a conversation with someone that told me they were a current paying customer.

At the end of our conversation this person decided that they weren't comfortable with me sharing their story on Tattle for fear of backlash, so the conversation was left there. I respected their decision and thought nothing more of it.

Until today, when I have heard from them again...

This person's eyes have been well and truly opened since we last spoke and it's fair to say they feel let down by Dan, 8020 and the whole team. Although they don't want me sharing screenshots of our conversation, they have given consent for me to tell their story.

They had been watching everything here and on TT and wanted to believe that the 8020 team were good people and I guess brushed it all off as a storm in a teacup, assuming it would pass.

They loved it in the Academy to begin with, but found the morning lives a bit loud and somewhat useless. I got the feeling that this person likes to be motivated by others and their progress/stories and being part of such a big group was good for them. Over time they have seen the Academy falling apart and can now see what is going on. They feel sad that all that they loved about the plan and the people is just one big lie. There was a general feeling from this person that those around Dan are just covering for him and his bullshit stories.

In their words they ''can't listen to the false promises anymore''

This person said they feel betrayed, and they are just waiting for their 16 weeks to end so they can leave quietly.

What was most sad was that they have gone to Dan/8020 for help, and will be ending their 16 weeks feeling worse than when they went in.

I think the most damning sentence I read during our whole exchange was that they felt that they ''had made a pact with the Devil''

There was a lot more to our conversation, but far too incriminating to talk about here. This person knows where we are, and is watching us and supporting quietly. I hope when the time is right they come and join us ❤

I haven't even scratched the surface with this story to be honest. How people can reach out for help and be left feeling this way is beyond me.

There was also a suggestion that there were other members watching... If any of you want to step forward anonymously and tell your story, its not difficult to find me. Same name, different platform. I promise you I won't give out anything that would lead them to you. TCHQ are here for a reason and we are all working together, not against each other.

Thank you for reaching out xx

** edit** Apologies, the bit about making a pact with the Devil wasn't in reference to this person - they were referring to Kaz and Sean making a pact with the Devil (Dan). It's not my intention to misrepresent anyone or put words in their mouth, so its only fair include an edit and claify. Sorry peeps!**
 
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DansBarmyArmy

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I just wanted to share this (and have been given permission)

This was the response to me checking with someone who had come forward that they were happy with what I was about to post and if it needed editing in any way

We arent the bad guys here. People do see that. Its a team effort over here at TCHQ x
 

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DansBarmyArmy

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Just when I thought things were going a bit quiet in camp today, a lovely Legend has been in touch 😊

This post is just for you Stevie Baby 😍

I refer you to your comments on TT earlier in the week with regards to the Legends scheme that you claim to know '' inside out'' You know, the one where you called me a liar thinking I wouldn't see the comments cos you have me blocked?

I have screenshot your comments to jog your memory but here goes:

You: They dont have to post replies or attend lives

Legends T&Cs: Dedicate at least 10- 15mins a day answering questions in the Academy. Be available to interact during live Q&A sessions.

You: They dont have to post on social media if they dont want to

Legends T&Cs: Spend around 30 mins a week promoting 80/20 on social media

The giveaway is at the top there Steve, bold as brass. You will need to commit to the following

Now correct me if I am wrong, but you seem to know nothing about the scheme.I am glad that I have been able to disprove your theory that I am a liar though.

Oh and for clarity. This info came from ANOTHER legend. This isnt a witch hunt- Your people are actively seeking us out. What does that tell you?

Have a fab weekend Dude and dont hesitate to contact me if you would like a copy 😘
 

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natnat34

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People’s true colours are really beginning to show, after feeling extremely down for being abused by a member of the academy and then disowned by everyone as I gave my opinion!!(story been told by Dan’s army army above) I think people need to take a good long look at themselves!! @DansBarmyArmy good job you are doing……
 
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Good morning fellow Trolly C**ts! What a thread that one was!

Brilliant recap from @JCMSadie - its only when someone writes it all down like that you realise the severity of all of this.

Glad to see Academy numbers are still declining, whilst ours are on the up. We are now 113 members strong and a force to be reckoned with.

Wouldn't be possible without all of you for contributing, for our counterparts over on TT keep spreading the message and without the spies we have in the camp. Its a team effort here at TCHQ - something Whanker could do with learning a thing or two about!

Just a little mention to @ididntthinkidenduphere - he would have been shitting himself last week at the thought of you going live, and your viewing numbers proved that- everyone knows hes a dick and can see him for what he is now. I noticed you have donated your creator fund money from those videos about DW to charity, and I think that's brilliant. You have shown true class and you should be proud.

Have a fab weekend Gang

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Ah thankyou so much, I can't lie when it said 680 people had clicked attending on my live I was so nervous. I knew it would of gone 1 or 2 ways.

I'm so glad I didn't speak on the until now, that live would of been so negative because I would of had everyone blindly sticking up for him back then.
The numbers on that live were insane, something dw can only dream of at this point.

On donating creator fund money,the reason why I did is...
DW would of thought I'd brought this up for views, followers, clout and creator fund £.
So far from the truth and I wanted to stick to my word unlike him and do some good off the back of it.

To see his real day 1 supporters on here/trust pilot etc I knew I would be listened to and understood.

This site isn't something I like to be on if I'm honest but it's the only place he can't shut us up on!
 
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DiamondPink

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Do we think DW will show his face again? If so when and how? I don't understand how he thinks staying away from social media and the plan is beneficial, we won't stop telling the truth and we aren't going away 😊 people are starting to see the light and it's amazing that people are finding comfort, confidence and trust in @DansBarmyArmy to come forward. I love this wee group 🙂
My guess is that he will resurface when the police investigations are over. He isn't backing down/having a MH break, I think he is on a warning from them while they look into things, but instead of taking it graciously and owning his own, he is busy getting minions to do "detective" work by unblocking and prodding for reactions... if they get so much as a sniff of anything they will try and use that against allegations made about DW et al. And "level it all off" as tit for tat with police.

Then will make a "come back" with a false narrative about how they were wronged with fake allegations and had to sit it all out like the "dutiful" person he is, when it's all just a load of bravado and bullshit.

Just a stab in the dark, but his personality can never take fault or blame even when it's his own doing.
 
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scotslass1506

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Hi I’m Natalie Butler joined 80/20 in March left about 2 weeks ago!! Already had messages sent to me but I don’t care 🤷‍♀️ I am a human and can have a opinion, hear that kaz I can and will have a opinion!!
I salute you 💝

Hi everyone I’m TC #118 aka Leanne Hermiston, joined 8020 in March time got the click bait email and stopped engaging after that although I did pay for the full 16 weeks 🤦🏻‍♀️ What a bloody waste of money that was 😏
 
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