In my 30s running around bringing trolleys downstairs on a till kiosk etc and they stand around chatting doing nothing they see the queues and ignore them it ducks me off so much
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Sadly a lot of young people nowadays are bone idle. Not all but many. Seem to think we should be grateful when they turn up for work. Actually doing any work is a bonus.
I was saying to a colleague the age divide and the work we do she was like oh well but it isn't oh well what kind of team doesn't work and sits on the till all day. The disabled man on our department bad a ducking heart attack and he sits on a till all day what's their excuse. I don't get it they are 1 generation behind us millenials and we arent lazy well most of us aren't
I have a dilemma; my line manager is a rude bully and has consistently picked on someone/anyone in her own team (me included) all the time I've known her, for several years.
Her latest 2x victims have taken out a grievance and I've been asked to go and meet with the manager who is investigating the situation.
My dilemma is that I want to talk but I don't want anything I say to get back to my line manager - she's going to know that anything from years ago can only have come from me as I'm the only long standing member of staff.
She's snappy and sarcastic - all her previous victims have moved on to new jobs - but she's actually ok-ish with me cos I won't play her games, I've previously told 3x managers exactly what she is like.
I just feel like I'm in a really vulnerable position - I could speak out and say all the things she's done over the years, but I feel it's likely to blow up in my face. Obviously I don't want her relentlessly bullying colleagues, but she's ok with me - it's just so awkward
If you tell them that you are in a really vulnerable position and concerned about repercussions, that pretty much confirms it. Normal procedure is to not tell the subject of the grievance full details of the investigation meetings, as it puts pressure on people to deny everything for fear of being made to pay for it later. And if it's in relation to any Protected Characteristic, it's actually a further issue for the bully if they do because it counts as victimisation - that applies to both a person with or perceived to have a PC, but anybody connected to that in the course of the investigation.
Another complaint about the next generation.
Doesn't drive but takes a job miles away. Then complains that the role isn't hybrid - it was never advertised as hybrid.
Comes to work and moans she ha no life as it takes her so long to come in on the bus each day. Also says she has no intention of learning to drive.
Asks for flexible working, so always agreed a 15 min shift slide so she doesn't have to wait around so long for the bus at the end of the day, but we all have to leave at 1700 and sit in all the traffic. She's now started and finishing earlier, but we aren't allowed to as the office is open until 5. Did I mention we all sit in traffic as everyone is kicking out at that point?! And even when she is WFH as we are now hybrid, still starts and finishes earlier. But when we are WFH we are having to do 9-5
Dunno if it's just me, but if I didn't drive, the first thing I would do is see what my journey would be like. Then if I made the decision to work there, I wouldn't then demand to work different hours, whilst those of us that have been there years have to work a bit a normal shift. Part of my admires it, mostly harry it though as it fecks everyone else over.
Doesn't drive but takes a job miles away. Then complains that the role isn't hybrid - it was never advertised as hybrid.
Comes to work and moans she ha no life as it takes her so long to come in on the bus each day. Also says she has no intention of learning to drive.
Asks for flexible working, so always agreed a 15 min shift slide so she doesn't have to wait around so long for the bus at the end of the day, but we all have to leave at 1700 and sit in all the traffic. She's now started and finishing earlier, but we aren't allowed to as the office is open until 5. Did I mention we all sit in traffic as everyone is kicking out at that point?! And even when she is WFH as we are now hybrid, still starts and finishes earlier. But when we are WFH we are having to do 9-5
Dunno if it's just me, but if I didn't drive, the first thing I would do is see what my journey would be like. Then if I made the decision to work there, I wouldn't then demand to work different hours, whilst those of us that have been there years have to work a bit a normal shift. Part of my admires it, mostly harry it though as it fecks everyone else over.
We have loads like this. Moan about how long it takes to get to work, did they not check it before they took the job?
I'd be saying pretty much that. You're being placed in a very awkward and as you said vulnerable position, and it's very unfair. You have to look out for yourself too. Is there anyone that you could talk it over with or bring to the meeting if necessary?
we had someone recently who after starting in the job asked to move back to their old one as they hadn’t realised how far away the office was from their home! Why wouldn’t you look that up, location is one of the first things I check on a job advert
I had a situation yesterday. I went above and beyond helping another manager with a task as she was swamped with her workload. However, she decided to only publicly thank another manager for their support yesterday. This infuriated me as I postponed some of my tasks to support her. Teamwork. Won’t be going above & beyond for her again. The least she could have done was thank me also so our manager could see I was also helping her. Dreadful…
The invitation to the meeting says I can bring someone with me - I considered asking another manager to come as she also picks on him but I don't want to make matters worse.
I also have a colleague that joined me to support the bully, in the past and at her request, then she saw how she treated me in the aftermath
But my colleague has a lot going on at the moment and she doesn't need the stress - I swore her to secrecy and showed her the invite, she agrees I'm in a vulnerable position and she was unsure if I should go to the meeting.
It's just so difficult, I don't even know why the bully behaves like she does, it's pointless and exhausting.
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We had someone who once really gamed the company relocation policy...the rule was that if you were moving 90mins + from your original location you could get relocation expenses for the move and £500 a year for 'visits home to family'.
She worked in Croydon and applied for a job in a branch on the edge of London, like Watford way. She timed her commute and it was 1 min over the 90 mins so she got relocation allowance.
No one made her apply for that job, she wanted to move anyway.
Most people getting relocation money were moving from Scotland or Northern Ireland to London, not across London!
As a senior member of staff who only goes into the office 1 day per week every Thursday nearest to pay day I paid for the junior members lunch either eat in or takeaway venue of their choice which I don’t have to do but I think they are all treated pretty poorly by the co. Last week went in was not near pay day & 1 of the junior members had arranged a lunch out for everyone apart from me. Well that tells me everything I need to know about what she thinks of me so that is going to save me some cash every month cos I shan’t be doing it again! 
If she lived in Croydon, it can take 85 minutes to get three miles down the road by bus. If the bus showed up in the first place, that is.
Waiting until I log in and jumping on me the second my Teams goes available
Having different people ask me to do something I already said I can't do won't result in a different answer. I can't do it. No matter who asks.
In the time you've expended getting different people to ask me you could have submitted the formal request to the appropriate department like I advised you to do a week ago.
Also, people who send me alleged "urgent" requests via chat message when my status clearly says I'm in a meeting. Send an email! I'm not going to drop everything just because you used chat. And stop with just typing "Hello <My name>". Just say what you want, this isn't social hour!
Finally, the "must be done TODAY!!!!111" thing from a week ago that requires input from five different people still isn't done. Guess it wasn't that urgent after all.
And... I'm so glad it's Friday because obviously I am feeling quite cranky.
In the time you've expended getting different people to ask me you could have submitted the formal request to the appropriate department like I advised you to do a week ago.
Also, people who send me alleged "urgent" requests via chat message when my status clearly says I'm in a meeting. Send an email! I'm not going to drop everything just because you used chat. And stop with just typing "Hello <My name>". Just say what you want, this isn't social hour!
Finally, the "must be done TODAY!!!!111" thing from a week ago that requires input from five different people still isn't done. Guess it wasn't that urgent after all.
And... I'm so glad it's Friday because obviously I am feeling quite cranky.
Had a read of this article with my coffee this morning and immediately identified my local hookworm:
metro.co.uk
Thankfully, my own manager is fully aware of who he is too and has put him in a role away from the rest of us, but he still pops up now and again to ruin our days.
I have been turning the questions back on him, which does prove helpful e.g. when he asks why I deserve to go on a particular work trip or why I was awarded extra responsibility, I just ask "why not me?"
It usually results in some muttering and him sauntering off and the rest of the time I try to grey rock him because he really has an uncanny ability to find your worst buttons and push them frantically.
Does anyone else have any tips for hookworms? What do you call them?!
Hookworms are plaguing UK offices and bosses haven’t even noticed
You don't want to be colleague who's the workplace hookworm.
metro.co.uk
Thankfully, my own manager is fully aware of who he is too and has put him in a role away from the rest of us, but he still pops up now and again to ruin our days.
I have been turning the questions back on him, which does prove helpful e.g. when he asks why I deserve to go on a particular work trip or why I was awarded extra responsibility, I just ask "why not me?"
It usually results in some muttering and him sauntering off and the rest of the time I try to grey rock him because he really has an uncanny ability to find your worst buttons and push them frantically.
Does anyone else have any tips for hookworms? What do you call them?!
Thread friends, I apologise for moaning (again!) but I need some quick advice! My boss sent a message to our work chat saying that she would drag herself in to work regardless, she is sick of ‘our bull’ lectured us about coming in to make it to lunch time and going home if ill, despite it being highly unlikely we’d be able to go! Then she told us ‘sick leave is not allowed - pull yourselves together’
Anyway, I’ve got a chronic illness and a mental health condition, both flared last week I was in bits. I posted on here about it and I could not see where to turn. I was intending on a few days self cert to deal with both but now I’d have to phone in tomorrow and I’ve lost my nerve! Any advice? Thank you!
Anyway, I’ve got a chronic illness and a mental health condition, both flared last week I was in bits. I posted on here about it and I could not see where to turn. I was intending on a few days self cert to deal with both but now I’d have to phone in tomorrow and I’ve lost my nerve! Any advice? Thank you!
Phone in - you are unwell. If she pushes you don't need to give her details. Keep it brief, "hi boss, I'm too unwell to work today/this week and will keep you updated on when I'll return". If she starts, "I'm not well enough for this conversation and will discuss it when I return". Does she have a line manager or is there a HR team you could report your absence to instead of her if needed? Might get her back up though which might be more trouble than it's worth. But if she gives you any nonsense absolutely go over her head because I very much doubt this attitude and communication is within company guidelines.
Especially when ive logged on early to get something done