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kev1974

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Yep Trump praising the hell out of Musk right now, he's going to be unstoppable

President Musk just as soon as they can get the rules changed to allow it?
 

HelloStereo

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Thatcher had an 8.1% swing and also a higher % of the vote in 1979 than Tony Blair did in 1997 although he had an 8.9% swing so yes people do switch from Labour to the Tories in significant numbers.
It was a 5.2% swing from Lab - Con but my point wasn't that people never switch Labour to Tory. It's that Tories do not have a sizeable working class voter base and typically working class Labour voters go Reform rather than Conservative. Swinging once or twice isn't indicative of prolonged support.
 

Whiffy McBiffy

Well-known member
A fetus is considered a parasite until viability. The bible teaches a baby is not alive until they have drawn 3 breaths.

You have no argument, you're attempting to defend treating women as gestation machines whos actual lives are unimportant
The relationship between a mother and an unborn baby is symbiotic, not parasitic. Try thinking
 

Piff paff puff

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Shy conservative vote is absolutely a thing though. It’s why many polls fuck it up again and again. BTL comments very different.
I heard an explanation as the people who are mostly polled are stopped by a person with a clipboard in the daytime and it's those (the wealthy left) and the right wing constituents are working and so don't get polled.
Makes sense but I'm sure polls have advanced since clip boards and are maybe sent by email or social media.
Anyone been polled before?:unsure:
 

HelloStereo

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I imagine there’s a whole range of views. Because, you know in reality there is such a thing as independent thought.
Indeed but you can draw some reasonable conclusions from some people's particular viewpoints. In fact it was you originally who said it might impact their views on euthanasia etc.
 

LaBlonde

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Do they have an exit poll in America
of a sort; though i think it’s difficult with the various different timezones (which means the coasts close voting at different times) and the street ballot boxes etc. this explains it better than me!

 

MsMadamSecretary

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No shade here but interesting to see non US citizens supporting Trump here. Most Brits don't seem to like Trump.
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Trump is the bookies favourite. You’ll do well if you put a bet on Kamala right now.
I've done matched bets via Sky tonight. The £20 will probably come back either way and I'll use up free bets anyway.
 

Smashbox

Chatty Member
Oh yes I agree with you. But Kamala Harris herself never made a big case of her background. It only became a thing later on based on political calculations by the Democrat party but it is more an American issue than anything else. Segmentation of the population was first a marketing tool to better target potential consummers. Race, gender, age etc. are used as a way to categorize people to sell them products they would be more attracted to.
Eh have you forgotten about her comments to Joe where she more or less called him a racist over school busing?
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Days late here but 🤣🤣🤣 funny how Jay Z sat this one out 🤔🤨