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Don’t be fooled by Piers.. he is a people pleaser and changes side of the fence when it fits him best

orlyb1310 said:

In what way is cancel culture like anything as awful as a deadly disease though because I really can't think of anyone who's unfairly been deplatformed. People will be offering Piers millions of pounds to quite literally have a very public platform. He was allowed to have his say YET AGAIN (as if he hasn't said enough) in a national newspaper. He can rant until his heart is content on social media. He could even make a youtube channel and argue with the camera if he wanted to. Voluntarily leaving his job because his colleague rightly called him out for denying Meghan experienced racism and denying she was suicidal isn't being cancelled. He is an ambassador for ITV and should've been sacked on the same day he made such idiotic comments about mental health. It was a privilege he was able to sit at that desk the next day and decide to quit. Freedom of speech isn't freedom of consequences.

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You can’t think of anyone who’s been ‘unfairly’ deplatformed?

Well, that’s an interesting way to put it. People have been deplatformed, but you get to decide whether it’s fair or not. Right?

That, right there, is the problem. Summed up in your one sentence. One group of people using their imagined moral superiority to condemn others for saying things that they personally don’t want to hear or agree with. This is a shameful state of affairs in a 21st century democratic country that can only stay democratic if free speech remains unimpeded - the exact same freedom of speech and expression that allowed us to become democratic in the first place. And no....freedom of speech does not provide immunity from consequences. But those consequences ought to be dissenting argument from others who are also exercising their right to speak...not losing your job because you dared to express a view that others don’t share. Did Morgan break the law? No. So exactly why should he be sacked? (Which he wasn’t, btw, he resigned. GMB asked him to resign if he refused to apologise - which means they had no actual grounds to sack him).

Morgan didn’t actually deny Markle was the victim of racism - he wanted the evidence. What exactly is wrong with that? She and her gutless husband made a very serious accusation & didn’t feel even slightly inclined to provide any evidence whatsoever. Not only that, they didn’t even manage to get their stories straight. She says she was pregant when these “concerns’ were raised...he says they were still only dating. A MASSIVE discrepancy. We also know, as a matter of objective fact, that Archie is not a prince because he’s not entitled to be one yet so any decent person interested in the actual truth rather than Markle’s personal version of it would have to be skeptical - at least until they know the full story...which H&M have been very careful to make sure we can’t have. How convenient.

And regarding the mental health issue...Morgan was clear about what he meant. He acknowledged that only she can testify to her state of mind but it stops being HER truth the moment she involves other people...which she did in order to make yet another baseless, unsupported but very serious accusation against people she knows full well cannot actually defend themselves.

Morgan was suspicious of her claim as, frankly, most thinking people are. It would “look bad” for the institution if she received psychiatric help even though her husband has freely admitted on television that he’s been in therapy for years? Really? Even though the BRF have been determinedly and very publicly committed to breaking down the stigmas associated with mental health? And, let’s be frank...how much WORSE would it look for the institution if, having prevented her from receiving medical care that she is LEGALLY ENTITLED TO, the wife of the 6th in line to the throne, pregnant with the 7th, died at her own hand in one of their palaces? Never mind “looking bad for the institution“, that would finish it. That piece of inescapable logic is being ignored by everyone.

She lied about getting married three days before the wedding. She lied about the reason Archie doesn’t have a title. She lied about the reason he didn’t get security. She lied about KP not defending her from stories she considered inaccurate (the ”Kate cried” story actually says that KP vehemently denied it happened). She lied about holiday parties for the tabloids. She lied that BP left her unsupported (she had an entire team created just for her including the Queen’s own personal secretary who was due to retire). She lied about being denied her “voice” given that she made more speeches during her short tenure than almost any of them put together...not to mention guest edited Vogue in which she freely promoted her own political agenda (a seriously irregular thing for a representative of a monarchy that must always remain neutral to do). She lied about being told she wasn’t allowed out...as proven by her endless trips abroad (on a passport she pretended was taken from her, presumably). And on and on it goes.

And yet, in spite of these glaring lies and inconsistencies, you genuinely think that a commentator - paid to share his opinion - should be summarily sacked for voicing doubt?

Witch hunting was outlawed centuries ago. Even our more primitive ancestors finally figured out that accusing & convicting anyone of a crime without a fair and balanced investigation of the evidence is wrong. How desparately tragic that here we are again...the accustion is enough and the justification for this? Well, it’s “Meghan’s truth”. The fact that Meghan and the truth certainly appear to be uneasy bedfellows seems not to trouble her supporters at all. And that, in itself, is troubling.

Sharing experiences of racism and poor mental health is one thing. Making allegations of extreme wrong doing on the part of others while deliberately obfuscating the details so that they can’t be checked and then smugly sitting back and watching the reputations of your husband and child’s family sink into shit is something else altogether.

That is nasty. That is shameful. That is low and that is gutless.

But it’s fine with “the woke” so that’s OK.

JFC

Are we allowed to have a thread on Piers ?
He's got me shouting at the TV and in hysterics on GMB this morning ! I know he's like Marmite but I love him. He's very to the point and that's what I like

I have a soft spot for him as he was my boss once and very kind to us. But the shouting over guests on gmb really winds me up

Moth said:

He refused to apologise for saying that he didn't believe Meghan Markle's comments about having mental health issues. Something that he couldn't know and did not need to say in order to express his opinion about the Oprah Winfrey interview. Not only did it attract both public and private complaints from MIND the national mental health charity

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As someone who has had serious mental health problems for over 45 years and who has been suicidal many times, I'm really pissed off with Mind for the statement they made. Why? Because I've also worked with abused partners and spouses and threats of suicide are often made to keep them under control of the abuser. Mind should have made that clear but they didn't.

As for believing MM, I didn't believe her either. But I don't have to. Her partner should have believed her, her family and friends should have believed her and they all should have done something. But they didn't. That's not on the rest of us. It's nothing to do with us whatsoever.

As long as we advocate for good mental health services, we've done our bit. After that all we need concern ourselves with our families and friends.

I loathe people who jump on the 'But I'm mentally ill' bandwagon in order to get their own way. I loathe people who act the victim when they are clearly not victims at all. She stated that you can't call an Uber to the palace. You don't have to, you simply ask for a car and driver. She said she couldn't access care but we have a National Health Service. She just had to dial 999. Or equally contact the full time doctor and medical staff working in the palace itself.

It takes years of seriously hard work to learn how to deal with your mental health problems and the first thing you have to learn is to take charge of the responsibility yourself.

She belittled and undermined every single person who has actual mental health issues and she did it to show what a victim she is. I think that's dispicable and I have no time for her.

Okay, rant over.

If I was Piers’ wife I’d be concerned about his obsession with Meghan not talking to him anymore, he’s like a deranged ex but he actually only went for a drink with her once

It’s good to have someone who seems to say what most people are thinking.

Diva18 said:

I record GMB. The only morning TV worth watching. I watch when I get up. I don't watch Lorraine. I am just catching up now. Tobias Ellwood was in a bad mood today. Piers wasn't letting it go about the sex ban headline

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God I can’t stand Lorraine. She’s so fake!

Reraciara said:

If you want to hate on Megan there's a thread on here to go to but based on your picture, I'm sure you already know about it

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Correct.

It’s full of lovely people not taken in by her bullshit!

I do enjoy watching him on TV, but I remember him at the Levenson inquiry not answering questions, so a bit of a hypocrite really.

Phil Anne Throw Pee said:

Maybe you should stop dictating where I should and shouldn't post. Maybe you should go and inhale some steaming salts as the thought of anyone criticising your precious Piers clearly triggers you.
Andrew had sex with minors in Geoffrey Epstein's mansion(s). If not a rapey paedophile, certainly an extremely dodgy and immoral human being. Perhaps Piers should invest some time and effort in looking into that rather than hounding Meghan. I have a very moral high ground over Piers as I stated before - I have never been sacked for doctoring photographs.

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Ooh triggered.... I couldn't actually give a shit about Piers, he's big and ugly enough to look after himself, doesn't need help from anyone on this forum.

However a large number of the population are very grateful that he is standing up for the Queen and the British people against that shit stain Markle. A woman who has stolen our money and dedamed us all as 'racist'. How can you stand up for such a vile person?

As for Andrew I'll wait to wave my pitchfork until he's actually charged and convicted. Innocent until proven guilty is the law in this country.

Markle on the other hand has been PROVEN to be a liar.

Tallieban said:

I won’t be watching GMB anymore, I do like Piers even though I don’t agree with half of what he says, but he has passion, which I’m envious of.
IMO Alex Beresford is another Meghan Markle, ‘must have a voice’ and has spoken over Piers many times in quite an abrasive fashion, I’ve always felt like he needed to STFU and STFD.

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He’s certainly passionate when it comes to being a misogynistic, racist arsehole.

Nottsgirl said:

Going back to free speech and witch hunting and who can say what: if I work in Tesco, I have every right to walk into work and shout about how much I hate Malteasers and how everyone else should too. However, Tesco also have the right to watch the public reaction to me expressing my opinion and decide what my future at the company will look like. If I continually shout about how much I hate Malteasers and the public bite back and accuse me of spreading hate about Malteasers and I begin to do damage to Tesco’s brand, then Tesco are well within their rights to sack me. It’s their company and they have a right to protect it. I have a right to say what I want but my employer has a right to disagree with me and sanction me for it, ESPECIALLY if I’m doing it on company time in my uniform, as a representative of the company.

It’s not much different with ITV. I’m no Meghan fan, in fact I don’t give a toss about any of the family. This thread is about Piers and suddenly it’s become another Meghan bashing thread. Take Meghan out of the situation and it was a matter of time before Piers got sacked or was made quit. He was a representative of ITV, the host of one of their biggest shows. In the public’s eye, he represented what ITV stood for.

The key point in all of this that Piers fans seem to continually forget is YES Piers is entitled to his views and is entitled to say what he wants. But ITV are also entitled to sack him if those views are deemed to be affecting their brand. It’s the same for any company- and would be the same for any of us.

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Could you stop making up your own facts, please.

Morgan wasn’t sacked. He resigned. It’s interesting to consider what would have happened had he refused to resign or apologise but since that didn’t happen we shall never know. Had he stood up, unzipped his pants and pissed all over Beresford he would not have been “asked to resign”....he’d have been sacked. So there’s a legal difference & in the context of this discussion it matters. They didn’t have the legal grounds to sack him & he broke no law.

Your Tesco/Malteser analogy is, frankly, absurd. If you behaved like that Tesco would sack you NOT for what you said but the fact that you walked around their supermarket shouting. I am pretty sure your dismissal notice would not have expressed outrage at your opinion of Maltesers but by your poor BEHAVIOUR of shouting at colleagues and customers.

A better analogy would be what would happen if you politely told every customer going through your till that Tesco was the worst supermarket chain ever and they’d be better off going to Sainsbury’s. If they sacked you for that, would they have violated your right to free expression? No - you would have violated the terms of your employment contract in which you have promised not to bring the company into disrepute....and that’s what you would have been sacked for. If you want to pit your right to free expression against their right to hold you to the terms of your employment contact then you would have to take them to a tribunal. That’s what courts and tribunals exist for...to arbitrate when the rights of individuals and/or companies come into conflict.

You misunderstand, quite severely & disastrously, what free speech actually means. The right to free expression of thoughts and ideas ends when it comes into conflict with a competing right that another holds. My right to swing my arm around ends the moment my fist comes into contact with someone’s nose. That persons right not to be physically damaged by my swinging arm is held to be of greater importance, for obvious reasons. In a similar way, my right to shout the word “fire” in a packed cinema - without justification - is in conflict with the rights of others not to be forced into being part of a panicked, possibly violent, stampede as people rush to escape.

In order to limit a freely held right we have to demonstrate real and measurable harm to another. No police officer could arrest me for swinging my arm around - they have to wait until I hurt another before they could do that. And so is the case with free speech - and this is the essence of hate laws. The N word is not illegal - no word is illegal - using it with the intent to cause distress is.

No one has the right not to be offended (where your feelings are hurt) and no one has the automatic right to be believed. No one. If you think they should have that right, are you in favour of dismantling the entire justice system, then? Should we be able to just make a complaint to the police and, without investigation, let alone a trial, the accused should be simply thrown in jail forever? End of story? I doubt you do think like that, so kindly explain why you think any other arena of life should work like that.

Markle did not sit in front of an audience of millions simply relating her experiences of racism and poor mental health. If that’s all she’d done Morgan would still be on GMB and I wouldn’t be writing this post. No. Markle made accusations. ACCUSATIONS. Accusation: a charge or claim that someone has done something illegal or wrong.

She weaponised her supposed experiences of racism and suicidal ideation purely in order to cast aspersions on the characters of others. That is why she told those stories...to accuse, not to inform. And yet, according to you, the other people forming part of her “truth” have absolutely no right to respond at all. No right to expect other people to wait for further evidence before forming their judgements and no right to be defended. No...Markle played the race and mental health cards...and that’s all you need to hear. Never mind that her narrative makes no sense at all & is filled with demonstrable lies - her skin is one shade browner than most people in the UK therefore her word is gospel & anyone not immediately prostrating themselves before her sanctified “truth” is to be cancelled forthwith.

What you personallly think of Morgan is a matter of complete irrelevance..as is what I think of him. He did nothing wrong - not legally, morally, ethically or intellectually. He violated no one’s rights by voicing his opinion - not Markle’s, not yours, not anyone’s. Markle deliberately sought the biggest audience she could in order to provoke a reaction and she has absolutely no right to dictate what that reaction has to be. If people don’t believe her, that’s her tough luck..she simply has no right to expect people to believe her. And you have no right expecting that on her behalf....certainly not to the degree that you think someone should lose their job for voicing their thoughts.

Why do you use this forum exactly? Presumably because you agree with the ethos (as I do) that if someone seeks to monetise their private life or even just violate their own anonimity for IG likes, then to some degree they are fair game (within legal & ethical boundaries). They want to be discussed and so they are. Why, therefore, aren’t you on any of the other threads complaining about Mrs Hinch/Jameela Jamil/Jack Monroe “bashing”? What’s said on those threads is considerably worse than anything Morgan (or I) have said about Markle.

Markle is monetising her life, trading off her association with the BRF and using her entirely unearned platform to cause actual hurt to those she dislikes. If she was an influencer you’d be ripping her guts out, not demanding people be sacked for doubting her veracity.

So what’s the difference? There is none. So to use this forum, more than almost any other, to demand unearned respect for a “celeb” & violate the rights of others to voice an opinion is the absolute height of hypocrisy. It really, truly is. No one says you have to like, support or agree with Piers Morgan but the very fact that you think he should never be able to voice an opinion that you personally don’t share is considerably more arrogant than anything he has ever done.

If by 'Woke Brigade' you mean people that think he's an insufferable cunt, then yep, count me in.

Everyone boaking on about 'woke' and the 'death of free speech'. Do you not see the beautiful irony of Piers Moron being unable to accept any free speech and flouncing off because someone dared to disagree with him? Hilarious. Hope he rots and festers for all eternity.

Let’s be honest, the real reason Piers gets so wound up about “cancel culture” and “wokeness” is because he was a piece of shit journalist in the 80’s and 90’s (and still is honestly) who employed disgusting practices to get stories, used words and phrases that insulted and hurt millions of minority groups and created a media image for himself of being a nasty, gobby arsehole.

He’s terrified that if he shuts up long enough, people will remember to turn around and call him out on everything he’s done. He’s done more than enough to be deplatformed, yet he’s still one of the most talked about people in the UK.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Free speech works both ways. It is your right to give your opinion and it is my right to disagree. It is Piers’ right to mouth off on ITV every morning, but it is also Alex Beresford’s right to call him out on it. However, Piers also had a responsibility. He hosted one of the biggest shows in the country. What he said was heard by and broadcast to millions. What he says counts. Free speech is imperative to our society, but regulating journalists and the media in what is okay and not okay to publish or say is too. Saying you don’t believe someone was suicidal, or insisting on “proof” or “names” is incredibly harmful. You’re saying to every person who was or is considering taking their own life that they need to be able to prove it. That’s disgusting, point blank.

You can whine about snowflakes and wokeness and cancelling all you want Piers, but as soon as someone spoke back to you and refused to be shouted over by you, you ran off and couldn’t take it. Don’t pull the free speech card if you’re going to run off like Mo Farah when someone says something YOU don’t like.

Piers a good interviewer? Purleease. His standard interview performance:

Him and anyone: Piers: 'So, what do you think of this new legislation?'
Interviewee ' Well, I,
Piers 'You WHAT? Answer the question'
Interviewee 'I'm trying t...'
Piers 'ANSWER THE QUESTION. IT'S NOT DIFFICULT'
Interviewee 'Look Piers, you're not letting...'
Piers 'Because we all read what you tweeted about it'
Interviewee 'Yes, I'
Piers 'Why haven't you answered the question?'
Interviewee 'Piers, I...'
Piers ' I think we know why you haven't answered the question. You met Margaret Thatcher once didn't you? Whatever you think of Maggie, she was a fantastic politician, a very good friend of mine actually before she passed away. What did you make of her?'
Interviewee ' Well, I'
Piers ' Well we have run out of time. Another spineless celebrity not prepared to answer questions. Let's go to the b reak'. Camera pans to Susanna who is drinking gin out of a flask.

I made the mistake of reading comments on Facebook about Piers resigning. It’s full of people going “He JuSt SaYs WhAt eVErYoNe Is ThInKiNg” erm excuse me Bob, he certainly doesn’t say what I’m thinking so pipe down. Facebook comment sections are a cesspit.