thenomad

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I am probably in the minority but I don't actually have an issue with him. I don't think the left are doing themselves any favours out there by the way they carry on against him.
Their hatred is what made him president I feel. Would love it, if it is true that he became President by accident :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Can you imagine doing it as a stunt and actually becoming president.
....... I think it comes from a certain place of privlege and perhaps a bit of naivety to assume that how Donald Trump is conducting isn't an issue to you since it doesn't directly affect your life. I don't think the thousands of children locked up in cages will agree with you or anyone who is a minority (from POC to the LGBTQ+ community, women, etc). And what happens in the States to an extent still has an effect around the world. Democracy is still important to maintain and I much prefer it over an authoritarian rule like what is utilized in certain S. American countries, China, and Russia.

The "left" are doing their job which is to make sure the President is conducting in a way that is legal and not putting the nation's security at risk for his own personal benefit. I'm not sure if you haven't read any of the charges against him, seen or heard all the testimony provided by career experts who have worked decades in civil service and have never seen such rampant disregard for the law, Robert Mueller's report, or just look at the revolving door of Trump lackeys who are currently waiting to be sentenced or already have been founded guilty.... The only nay-sayers are his ardent supporters who are brainwashed by Fox News and the Republican party who puts party before country.

I had to sit and think about putting out this post because I know how touchy and divisive politics can be. And yes, Donald Trump is only a symptom of a larger problem at hand in the States, particularly the direction the Republican party is careening towards. I think any person who really does the research and carefully reads the evidence laid out will see that Trump is guilty. It is pretty obvious. He's is the most corrupt modern US President to date.

It is in no way okay or acceptable for a President to blackmail a foreign country to help him in an upcoming election by seeking political dirt against his opponent. To use campagin money to pay off a mistress. To not fully divest his businesses--as all previous modern presidents have done so-- and instead use his Trump properties to personally line his pocket with taxpayer money. Nepotism, bribery, adultery, racism, discrimination, denying science, breaking emoluments clauses, being the least transparent president to date, etc etc-- no one should be celebrating someone who is so awful and yet so dumb to be a leader... or to wave it off as it being perfectly acceptable behavior in any individual.
 
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thenomad

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I'm just not that bothered by American politics and let's be honest there is never a good choice. By the time peole make it to leadership roles they are all slightly or completely corrupted. Just look at the Clintons and their "foundation".

Anyway I stand by what I said I don't have an issue with him as he is not my president
Fair enough. We can agree to disagree. Maybe I'm young and stupid but I tend to care about things more than just my own personal well-being and try to look at things critically and not be so dismissive of people from all walks of life and different backgrounds. Or even people in different countries from my own.

Look, I'm not a Clinton fan at all but if we are going to criticize foundations and charities. Maybe look into the DT's personal foundation and what became of that. Those two ran in similar circles so they're not far off. But only one of them is wholly dependent on Putin for their survival both politically and financially atm. I don't think we can say Putin is an ally to both North America or to Western Europe.

I would think that the US, who is a key ally to the UK (as well as other European countries) would much prefer a leader who wasn't corrupted or directly influenced by Putin. Yes, it hasn't directly affected you yet and lolz who cares it's silly American politics! But countries like China and Russia want democratic institutions to fail. They want people to favor a more authoritarian government and have permanent presidents (not elected by the people) to be in charge. Democratic instability is the end goal. Why do you think Putin is trying so hard to influence politics in Europe too? It's not just isolated to the States only. I get the Royal family is symbolic for the British but I doubt you would want to go back to monarch rule again.
 
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I am probably in the minority but I don't actually have an issue with him. I don't think the left are doing themselves any favours out there by the way they carry on against him.
Their hatred is what made him president I feel. Would love it, if it is true that he became President by accident :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Can you imagine doing it as a stunt and actually becoming president.
 
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Nancy wants him impeached for inciting the capitol “riots” yet happily wanted Portland burnt to the ground and then some? Hypocritical witch.View attachment 396941
I mean, the people in summer were protesting for social injustice (I don't agree with the looting and violence). And the other group are right wing (some Nazis) who believe a fake conspiracy shared by the President that there was election fraud. You can't compare the two.
 
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I completely believe the conspiracy that he never wanted to be president. Howard Stien (the radio DJ) was the first to say it, and I reads all-white house books (Fire and Fury and the anonymous one) and it all points to the same direction - that DT never wanted to be president. Even Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 11/9 outlined this point in the documentary.
The story goes that DT wanted a pay raise from NBC for doing The Apprentice, so he thought he would announce running for president as a way to back NBC into a corner. Gwen Stefani was paid a lot more money on The Voice and this angered DT.
From what I read, he never imagined his campaign would go so far - he wanted to lose to crooked Hillary and be matra to his base of supporters.
If you don't believe me - watch his face just after he was announced as president and his mannerism when he goes to meet Obama just after the election. And also how he has behaved since taking office.
I believe deep deep deep down he secretly a little bit glad about being impeached but his ego is getting in the way.
I also believe he is in love with the power he has and doesn't want it taken away.
/Those are my two cents but the internet is filled with stories of how DT never wanted to be president.
 
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