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I have to say, and I’m outing myself here if that’s the case but I have only ever told the truth of this forum - my hubby and I reached out to Arthur on social media as our surrogacy journey started over a week ago (no IVF transfer yet ) but tests and labs and meetings (we’ve travelled abroad to meet last week) and we are planning a round for end of the year - anyway, Arthur could not have been KINDER, informative, gentle, sound and just overall loving in his responses and information to help. He has nothing to gain from us we are a normal family and he made us feel like he cared, offered to keep in touch and chatted for ages.

Spanxpantswearer said:

You wouldn't have known any different. You'd just have known of 2 parents that loved you.
Would you say the same if it was 2 women?

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I do a bit of work from time to time and for this work I meet 300 / 400 households at a time. I meet families and people from all walks of life. If I learned one thing through the course of my work it's this.
It doesn't matter if a child is being raised by one parent, two fathers, two mothers, a grandparent, a sibling, an aunt or uncle.
Once that child is fed, warm, dry and has a stable adult in their life they are all ready winning.
There are children out there being raised in deplorable conditions. I've seen it first hand. A child just needs a stable environment. That is all.

OB1 said:

totally agree! The child is only a few days old. Early days yet.


I agree. Poor Aoife. It cannot be easy carrying a baby and handing it over to 2 nut jobs.

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It's their baby!!!
All sorts of REAL crazy people have babies all over the world. Horrible despicable people have kids, drug addicts, rapists, murderers have kids.
I don't feel in anyway sorry for Aoife, I feel in awe her. She did a beautiful thing for people she loves. She handed a baby over to her parents!!! She'll always have a beautiful bond but she isn't the child's mother.

Honestly I have a brother who is gay and reading some things here are a real eye-opener.
If my brother decided he wanted a baby I would be so supportive (not to the extent of carrying it though) because I know he's a good person that would love and look after it.
I thought we had moved out of the stone age.

Aw lads can we not get all mumsnet please

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Quick recap from last thread
BDG and Arthur welcomed baby Blake Maria Rose Dowling Gourounlian into the world at the begining of September. Brian's sister Aoife was the surrogate. A donor egg was used however we don't know whether Brian or Arthur is the father and in fairness we don't need to know. Aoife will be down as mother on birth cert with one of the lads due to legalities here in Ireland however in two years time they can change that.
Aoife lived with Brian and Arfur for the duration of her pregnancy. They spent most of it begging for freebies, had a baby shower which was probably all a freebie too. If they weren't begging for freebies they were off pampering themselves or Brian and Arfur were preening and pouting in mirror. Brian is on paternity leave now but from what noone knows coz he doesn't seem to work much.
Much as BDG and Arfur drive us nuts with their carryon think we can safely say we all delighted for them and that baby was delivered safely and Aoife is well.

DonnaDolittle said:

As a little girl I would have hated having two daddies and no mother. I do hope this child is allowed a mother in her life. Otherwise how selfish of the men.


Cute? I hope this baby isn't deprived of a mother in her life just to make two men feel they can do anything they want.

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This type of shite turns my stomach!!! I had a mother & father as a child. Both were useless. My mother particularly. She hadn't a maternal bone in her body. I was emotional, verbally abused and most definitely neglected by my mother.
These 2 men clearly adore this baby. Can we please leave the narrative of a baby needs a mother & a father back in the 1950's where it belongs.
A child needs a loving stable home which as far as I can see is being provided.

Mother of jaysus this isn't handmaid's tale. Aoife became surrogate of her own free will, and fair play to her for doing so. Why presume she would be naive about childbirth and recovery, any woman would expect it to be a tough time, who are we to presume she was not well prepped for this time after the birth - its not like she didn't know it was coming and the circumstances. And this whole narrative about how sad for her to watch on but only as an aunt, that most surrogates would be a stranger- again, all conscious and free will decisions!! Jeez!

I find comments about them "playing a blinder" insulting to other parents. A newborn's mother will be shattered from pregnancy and recovering from labour with all the hormones going along with it. Brian and Arthur are well rested because they barely worked in the run up to the birth (unlike most fathers) and did not go through pregnancy and labour and so their newborn experience is not comparable and they should be well able to cope only a few days into disturbed sleep, nothing to do with them playing a blinder!!

"The longtime couple already shares a little girl, Blake whom they welcomed with a little help from Brian's sister Aoife through surrogacy back in September 2022.". From that article.

Getting invasive medical procedures, carrying and birthing a baby that you hand over to someone else is now "a little help"

If it’s the sister carrying the child again, she really needs to take a long hard look at herself and get a fucking life! I’m sorry but she is in her 30s.. has she anything at all going on in her life? Go out and find a fella or a girl, go on a good drinking binge, go travelling, get a career, get a hobby Christ on a bike what a sad existence to act as a human incubator for your self absorbed brother and husband! So sad

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Swollen lips, non stop trips, Aoife seems to be joined to their hips.

I love them! I love the normality of it. Isn’t it absolutely mad though that men can come on and show that true side of parenthood and the likes of Terri McEvoy has to hide it and goes back to glam and nights out within a week. Their honesty is so refreshing. No, they don’t have to share all the feeds with us but it’s lovely that they are. Their parenting experience is ironically the most true to life thing i’ve seen on social media in my life, and there isn’t a mother to be seen. Both are playing a blinder in my opinion. Brian is shattered tired, but that’s normal! Arthur is obviously some superhuman that survives on less sleep

Here for the gos! said:

They should be alternating nights instead of dragging family members in! I’m sure she offered but only because they keep banging on about how tired they are! Just like every parent all over the world when it comes to new baby's. What’s the point in both parents being exhausted everyday and night,and both seem to be up at ever feed.This just makes no sense to me!

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They should be doing whatever the fuck they want tbh

I'm no gaelgoir but i do believe in respecting our native language and those who choose to embrace it an keep our history alive. Certainly I'd never ridicule it or anyone who speaks it. Tbh what Brian did is very typical of his usual arrogant, ignorant and uneducated behaviour. For someone who rams the need for inclusion of diverse families down peoples throats you'd think he would realise that diversity and inclusion take more than one form. I dont like sile but I do agree that it was highly offensive and down right rude.

I think i can speak on behalf of everyone on the thread that no one gives a flying fuck that it's 2 men having a baby!!!

Socialb said:

I would live to know what education Outher has since he is calling people uneducated?

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He obviously isn't referring to academiaThe people sending those messages are ignorant and narrow minded - uneducated on the topic.

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Freebies galore, Brian is a bore, did you know Orthur danced with GA before?

ChastityDingle said:

Will they be jeering about the other women in the maternity ward with her, like they were last time around

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I’ll never forget this! The pair of privileged vile pigs. They commented on how glamorous Aoife looked compared to all the other mothers WHO JUST GAVE BIRTH. Imagine them sauntering in on their high horses, had to toe designer gear picking up their baby that they went to no effort to produce or carry, and judging you during the most vulnerable time of your life

The love coming off these two men (and Brian’s family) for that little girl is just nice to see. We all knew Brian was going to struggle and be naive about the whole thing but he’s not hiding it, it’s warts and all. It’s refreshing in comparison to the conveyer belt of new parents on IG showing the perfect new baby life and having it all, night feeds and a super social life and holidays etc.
Also, they dress Blake so beautifully yet so sensibly, she always looks cosy and clean and cute.

The feckin gucci and Louis vuitton thrown on top of the bin bags ffs literally a symbolism of their life in a photo