Zoe Sugg #18 Joe Suggs irrelevant sister.

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The dad lives in Wiltshire. He doesn't like his face to be on camera, but he is very rarely mentioned by Zoe at all anymore, which is strange considering she was extremely close with him up until a few years ago, I know he used to do Joe's finances for him, probably did the same for Zoe & may have told her off for her spending habits or offered advice that she didn't want hear & she froze him out.

I know she went to see him on father's day in 2019, most likely cause Joe & Dianne where going, but this seemed to be one of the only times she saw him, as she brought his Xmas presents from the previous Christmas as she hadn't visited. She also saw him a week or 2 before Xmas this year for an afternoon & no mention of the dad since then.

I also find it strange if on the rare occasions Zoe goes to Wiltshire & stays that she doesn't doesn't stay in either of her parents houses, she always gets an air b&b. I know that her dad has 2 spare rooms both of which have double beds, as they where Zoe & Joe's old rooms & her mum also has a guest room, as Joe & Dianne have stayed over in it. It just seems a bit odd. I'm also pretty sure Dianne has seen more of Zoe's parents & grandparents then Zoe has. Dianne is constantly on tour & yet has still spent more time with Zoe's family then Zoe has & I'm pretty sure Dianne brother has even met Zoe's parents.
She used to stay at her Dad's house when they went at Christmas.
 
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I also find it strange if on the rare occasions Zoe goes to Wiltshire & stays that she doesn't doesn't stay in either of her parents houses, she always gets an air b&b. I know that her dad has 2 spare rooms both of which have double beds, as they where Zoe & Joe's old rooms & her mum also has a guest room, as Joe & Dianne have stayed over in it.
I am quite sure that their dad no longer lives in their childhood home but has since moved. However, I thought it was very sweet of him to decorate bedrooms for both Zoe and Joe in the new house – you can see this in one of the vlogmases, 2017 I think. The rooms had some of their old furniture and some YouTube memorabilia. Most parents would definitely not have rooms for their adult children who have moved out years before. It's quite odd that she still refuses to stay there.
 
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I am quite sure that their dad no longer lives in their childhood home but has since moved. However, I thought it was very sweet of him to decorate bedrooms for both Zoe and Joe in the new house – you can see this in one of the vlogmases, 2017 I think. The rooms had some of their old furniture and some YouTube memorabilia. Most parents would definitely not have rooms for their adult children who have moved out years before. It's quite odd that she still refuses to stay there.
The problem is, we don’t know if she refuses to stay there - as another poster pointed out, it doesn’t seem like Daddy Sugg likes Alfredo, this could be part of the reason she doesn’t stay there or see her dad much - if her dad doesn’t like Alfie he’s probably told her that much and maybe Alfie isn’t welcome to stay in the house? And if it’s the other way, Alfie may refuse to stay there.. parent/child relationships can be tricky, especially when a partner is involved - I went from seeing my parents from pretty much a regular basis to twice in three years because of an old partner who didn’t like being around them; it’s circumstantial, and if there’s a feeling of awkwardness or potential hostility when she’s around her family, maybe that makes sense for why she spends most of her time around the Deyes.
 
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The problem is, we don’t know if she refuses to stay there - as another poster pointed out, it doesn’t seem like Daddy Sugg likes Alfredo, this could be part of the reason she doesn’t stay there or see her dad much - if her dad doesn’t like Alfie he’s probably told her that much and maybe Alfie isn’t welcome to stay in the house? And if it’s the other way, Alfie may refuse to stay there.. parent/child relationships can be tricky, especially when a partner is involved - I went from seeing my parents from pretty much a regular basis to twice in three years because of an old partner who didn’t like being around them; it’s circumstantial, and if there’s a feeling of awkwardness or potential hostility when she’s around her family, maybe that makes sense for why she spends most of her time around the Deyes.
oh that's interesting, did the dad alude to not liking alfie in a vlog or has alfie said something?
 
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Alfie always says he likes to talk to people, but he cannot socialise with adults and talk about real life topics. When he is around Zoe's parents, he feels shy and unsure. Yet at the same time Dianne, who has been around for much shorter period, is casually chatting to their mum etc. It's like Alfie still has this behaviour of a kid around families.
 
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it's probably just me but I get so mad whenever she says how big of a fan of HP she is.... witch didn't even read the books!!! she only read the first one.
and all fans know that the books are so much more than the movies and so much better.... she is fake fan and too lazy to even read the series she is "soooooo in love with" 🙄
She's read a grand total of about 6 books in her entire life, and I bet one was the very hungry caterpillar. That's why it makes me so angry that she got a book deal. She has no interest in reading or writing, it's just another thing to slap her name on. All her ideas are incredibly derivative. People like her are pushed to the front where as nobodies like me that have been writing novels for years and years are ignored. Yes, I do take it personally 😂
 
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Alfie always says he likes to talk to people, but he cannot socialise with adults and talk about real life topics. When he is around Zoe's parents, he feels shy and unsure. Yet at the same time Dianne, who has been around for much shorter period, is casually chatting to their mum etc. It's like Alfie still has this behaviour of a kid around families.
Well this behaviour can be clearly seen in their vlogmas's this year, when they go to Wiltshire for 2 days with Joe & Dianne. Alfie & Zoe sit on the floor in the grandparents house opening their presents like children & this what they were interested in, like you can hear Zoe's grandparents having conversations with Joe & Dianne & the grandad's carer & Tracey in the background, but the pair of them are too interested in being kids to actually interact like adults & have a proper conversation. The only real interaction Zoe had with her Gran was to give her a gift, which the only reason Zoe filmed it as she thought it made her seem like such a thoughtful person.
 
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it doesn’t seem like Daddy Sugg likes Alfredo
I don't think anyone would blame him for that. :LOL:

Maybe he saw the videos where Alf said Zoes subscribers attracted him to her or that taxi in NYC where he strung her along as if it was an engement or the time on her birthday he told her to go outside for a surprise. So many times he's been crappy to her in the content he chooses to share.
 
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I don't think anyone would blame him for that. :LOL:

Maybe he saw the videos where Alf said Zoes subscribers attracted him to her or that taxi in NYC where he strung her along as if it was an engement or the time on her birthday he told her to go outside for a surprise. So many times he's been crappy to her in the content he chooses to share.
I mean having to listen to his laugh and the horse teeth would be enough to put anyone off
 
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I know from Joe's channel they were planning on merch, put they couldn't agree on which type of hoodie to get. Joe had samples to try back this Summer, but clearly they couldn't agree cause there hasn't been a mention about it since & Joe went on to do In the Pan merch with Dianne instead & merch for the Joe & Dianne show.


I think it was said before, but Zoe & her mum's relationship is quite precarious. Her parents split Zoe & Joe both lived with their dad & their was very little mention of her mum for years. It was only in the last 2/3 years that Zoe's mum has been allowed back into her life & it is on Zoe's terms like Zoe rarely visits her mum it's always her mum who has to travel to see Zoe & just my own opinion her mum is probably afraid to say anything or have Some completely freeze her out again, as Zoe is known to do this with anyone who disagrees with her.
Yes, Zoe's mum seems to drop hints through gifts... i.e. the potato masher (?) she got Zoe and the flower trench or whatever it was more recently.
 
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Hi, lurker here 👍🏼 I stopped following Zoe about 2 years ago I think it was after the Christmas advent calendar fiasco 🙄 always disliked Alfie, pompous little twit! Very surprised that she's 30 now and no sign of children or marriage after she's stated many times that was a goal of hers, why is she still with the man child? What exactly is attractive about him or his horrid personality 😒
 
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Hi, lurker here 👍🏼 I stopped following Zoe about 2 years ago I think it was after the Christmas advent calendar fiasco 🙄 always disliked Alfie, pompous little twit! Very surprised that she's 30 now and no sign of children or marriage after she's stated many times that was a goal of hers, why is she still with the man child? What exactly is attractive about him or his horrid personality 😒
Could have written this myself. Alfie is so arrogant, I have no idea why she stayed with him. Stopped watching a few years back now.
 
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I don't know if she actually cares or not (I honestly think she does) but I was pleasantly surprised to see she didn't just repost one BLM post and moved on. I'm really glad she's using her platform to spread information and resources and that she seems to actually be doing at least a little bit of research, even if it's just on Insta. Good on her for once.
I don't know if 30 is that wake up call for Zoe. But I'm like "is this Zoe Elisabeth Sugg"

Do you think she'll next wake up from Alfie or am I asking for too much?
 
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If I were Alfie I would be beyond pissed off that I had bought her a whole ass car that she drove once (??) And then left on the driveway to rot. I know Alfie is a dumbass but I actually thought it was quite thoughtful of him to get her that car and do the little treasure hunt for her. Then again, Alfie clearly doesn’t value his things (note the half pipe, multiple swimming pools, trampoline.. etc). Maybe he doesn’t care. They’re both as bad as each other.
He even did the inside up on the car and made it all modern! And changed it to automatic drive if I remember correctly???
I would kill for that car!
 
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What exactly is attractive about him or his horrid personality 😒
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Same for zoe, what's attractive about her or her horrid personality? They're both equaly bad and horrible.
 
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