Yoga Girl Rachel Brathen #3 Conversations from the Ego

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We aren't talking about domestic violence. We are talking about how narcisstic people behave in relationships. Personally for me I don't necessarily think Rachel would qualify as being a narcissit but I know from your comments that you do and she may well be. By definition a narcisssit does not have empathy for other people and their relationships revolve around manipulation to feed their own fragile sense of self. That is emotionally abusive. No it doesn't look the same as verbal abuse, physical violence, coercive control, but it is very very damaging to one's emotional wellbeing over a long period of time. Gaslighting is also a form of emotional abuse. Something you agree she does to Dennis. Therefore on that measure alone she is abusive to him.
It doesn't serve any of us to go tit-for-tat with other posters here about semantics. None of us are here to diagnose Rachel (or Dennis) or to prove definitively that she is or isn't a narcissist/abusive/etc. We're all here to snark on the obviously annoying and eye-roll-worthy aspects of Rachel and her platform. There is far too much nuance within people's lives and personal dynamics for us to prove one way or another whether she fits textbook definitions of narcissism or abuse. Bringing into question peoples' individual experiences with similar dynamics feels like the opposite of why I'm here and I can't imagine many people enjoy this kind of back and forth.
Whether or not Rachel can be clinically diagnosed as a narcissist or whether or not she's 'abusing' Dennis starts to go beyond snark and into wild speculation that has no point here.

As QueenBW said, there are plenty of other CONCRETE things for us to comment on that we can see and hear directly from her stories/her page/her podcast. Veering into conspiracy-style speculation seems very unnecessary and reductive.

Just listened to the latest podcast. It’s a walk down memory lane of Island Yoga studio as they are closing. They are running out of money in Aruba (guess that new home really was a bargain and was done up with such a tight budget). And now can’t afford to pay staff. Anyway she is manifesting an amazing sale.
I can't help but laugh at this because...what the hell did she expect when she just abandoned an entire business and openly talks about how 'over' yoga she is?! I hope she DOESN'T manifest an amazing sale and has to actually sit with the consequences of her poor decisions for once. But we all know that probably won't happen. I'm sure Billionaire Daddy will just buy the studio and bail them out in the end.

And her teasing more 'drama' - unsurprising and typical Rachel. I don't understand how ANYONE can be intrigued by anything she 'teases' anymore? Every announcement or thing she's 'not ready to talk about yet' ends up being so damn BORING and drab. She literally lives to invent drama out of thin air.
 
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I can't help but laugh at this because...what the hell did she expect when she just abandoned an entire business and openly talks about how 'over' yoga she is?
! I hope she DOESN'T manifest an amazing sale and has to actually sit with the consequences of her poor decisions for once. But we all know that probably won't happen. I'm sure Billionaire Daddy will just buy the studio and bail them out in the end.
THIS!! She stepped away and she was the main draw for it all. I remember she once posted how much the SUP Yoga classes were and the evening yoga classes and I was just like... there's no way a regular Aruban can afford that! Most people couldn't, anywhere in the world, actually.
 
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Huh, so much for how amazing the studio was doing, which she mentioned not long ago.

I personally think that even without being canceled, that place was never going to work without her there. She was the reason why people flew from the US and Canada and Europe to partake in her white-people-almost-exclusively YTT programs. I'm sure some locals also went sometimes, but the bulk of the money probably came from those big trainings, big groups, led by Rachel. And with Rachel pulling back from yoga, I don't see how she could continue to draw crowds for Yoga.

She also seems to love how lazy virtual "courses" like Home allow her to be. She could already be hosting in person trainings, or hybrid trainings, in Sweden, especially since Sweden never shut down the way most of the world did with the pandemic. But she's not doing it. She'd probably say it's because she hasn't found a space but I'm willing to bet Stockholm has spaces for rent. She's just too lazy.

* disclaimer now and forever, since apparently it needed to be said, anything I say here is obviously my personal opinion, I am not diagnosing, given that although I have taken loooong trainings on clinical psychology for my job, I'm not qualified to diagnose people. Much less from postings on the internet. It just gets annoying to type out every time "In my opinion she is X, Y, Z" or "she is very likely a narcissist". It's easier to say "she's X". Obviously this is all an opinion.
I was just thinking that! Didn't she VERY recently mention how much the studio was flourishing (she was simultaneously bragging about that girl Jessica basically running it SO smoothly). Another lesson to never believe a word that comes out of Rachel's mouth.

She admitted herself she never built or fostered a relationship with the locals pre-cancellation, so it's no surprise that as soon as she dropped the studio and left the island that locals would have next to zero interest in supporting the studio. And at this point it makes perfect sense that a distant past association with Rachel was not enough to keep bringing in the same number of non-locals to be taking classes.

The course and 'passive income' thing are SUCH big talking points in the online 'coaching' industry. Just before her move to Sweden, I noticed she started following a lot of those kinds of coaches, and the woman she took the tea course from runs in those same circles. I knew the moment she signed up for the tea course that she was gonna go down the 'virtual course' route. All these coaches constantly brag about and focus on how many millions of dollars they're able to bring in by selling 'evergreen' course content at astronomical prices (well into the thousands, much more expensive than the HOME course ever was). You're absolutely right, and she's basically admitted as much - she wants the most money (and adoration) for the least amount of work. 🤮

THIS!! She stepped away and she was the main draw for it all. I remember she once posted how much the SUP Yoga classes were and the evening yoga classes and I was just like... there's no way a regular Aruban can afford that! Most people couldn't, anywhere in the world, actually.
You're telling me locals aren't swarming the beach for $50 poorly taught SUP Yoga classes because of a distant past association with THE Rachel Brathen?!?!?!? Color me shocked 😉😂
 
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New to the thread! The whole vegan controversy brought me here. She's awful, a total liar, and bone-deep mean but a domestic abuser? That's an Olympic-level jump, imho.
Welcome! 😁 This thread is a great space if you feel scammed or jaded by YG. I was a huge fan and follower from the beginning and over the past few years found myself less and less interested and more off put. Then I found these guys and it made me feel good to know I wasn’t some cynical asshole, other people saw it too! Sometimes there can be disagreements, but as a whole we all just feel like YG has become a toxic and money-scheming platform. I think when any big terms are thrown around it may be just in the heat of typing, so totally understand. That said ooooh @bffr will we be getting a comedic rundown? 😁

Also does anyone feel like this is nearing the end of a movie about a long con? I can’t put my finger on it and it sounds so silly, but selling Island Yoga (which has been for sale for a while now) and acknowledging the letting go of yoga and Aruba is like the end of an Oceans 11 movie where the thieves (who are likable 😂 at least) fly away having successfully robbed the casino. I’m not saying YG had this meticulously planned, but at some point she started plotting how she could make her YG brand into passive income instead of a place of service. They have their pricey Air BNBs and now can fly away from the island (aka the casino sorry I can’t let this analogy go 😎) and giggle maniacally all the way home. Ha ha ha *roll credits*
 
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Welcome! 😁 This thread is a great space if you feel scammed or jaded by YG. I was a huge fan and follower from the beginning and over the past few years found myself less and less interested and more off put. Then I found these guys and it made me feel good to know I wasn’t some cynical asshole, other people saw it too! Sometimes there can be disagreements, but as a whole we all just feel like YG has become a toxic and money-scheming platform. I think when any big terms are thrown around it may be just in the heat of typing, so totally understand. That said ooooh @bffr will we be getting a comedic rundown? 😁

Also does anyone feel like this is nearing the end of a movie about a long con? I can’t put my finger on it and it sounds so silly, but selling Island Yoga (which has been for sale for a while now) and acknowledging the letting go of yoga and Aruba is like the end of an Oceans 11 movie where the thieves (who are likable 😂 at least) fly away having successfully robbed the casino. I’m not saying YG had this meticulously planned, but at some point she started plotting how she could make her YG brand into passive income instead of a place of service. They have their pricey Air BNBs and now can fly away from the island (aka the casino sorry I can’t let this analogy go 😎) and giggle maniacally all the way home. Ha ha ha *roll credits*
I love this analogy haha. Yeah, it does feel like she's shedding her YG persona and any semblance of "service" she might have ever had. She knows she still has quite a few poor suckers that'd buy anything she shills, she's got her AirBnBs, she has her website, she can come up with some new bullshit courses, she's got daddy. She doesn't need to pretend to be evolved and humane. She can be a greedy, lazy, rich person.
 
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Maybe her recent trip to LA was to discuss her upcoming documentary #yogaswindler

I feel mean, but I guess some of the people who flocked to her classes were also just doing it for the gram
 
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I'm just here as a friendly reminder that once again Rachel is in her stories saying how she's not on her stories much and taking photos of herself crying for attention.

Also lol at Dennis asking Rachel what filter she has on because its all blurred. She quite really looks like she does and she denies it.

I wonder if he gets bored of her always having the phone on herself. I'd feel like a weirdo if my sweetheart saw me always filming myself. Like an attention beg 😅

Oh yeah and advertising more consumerist products. That's the yoga we all fell in love with on her page right??? 🤥🥲🙃
It's like a new age frickin wallmart, her Instagram now. Bluuurrrrrffff

Oh sorry sorry Rachel, this Infrared sauna is THEEEEE most healing thing you have tried to sell us in years. "EMOTIONALLY, PHYSICALLY, SPIRITUALLY THE MOST HEALING THING IVE USED AND IT WORKS"!

Why you still so emotionally wounded AKA butthurt, and physically sick then if you had the INFRARED SAUNA THIS WHOLE TIME OOOOOO what to chose from, between the magic vitamins and the Spiritual neck cream it's hard to decide which ancestral method of healing I should opt for to follow mystical almighty healed GymGirl
 
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This is what this grifter will be doing from now on: selling crap via ads.
Again, the ad is hidden under her IG handle. She may as well go and sell crap on QVC, would suit her well.
On another note, I don’t feel sorry for her whatsoever about her yoga studio, because basically she just left and abandoned it. How can you just leave a beautiful business where you put your heart and soul in it just like that?
I really don’t understand running away from Aruba like this.. or is it the case of keeping running away from herself.
She comes across as a very disturbed, angry and resentful person despite all the money and her daddy’s money.
I don’t believe a word she was spouting on her stories about selling the studio, she said it is not sustainable to run a property like that from the other side of the world, yet buying another house to let out as a air bnb is ????
She’s full of tit, as always, there are other reasons they are selling the studio, which she doesn’t disclose.

ETA, this sauna bed has heeeelped her so much with her physical health, that’s why she’s always sick. Pull another one grifter!
 

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Haven't seen such blatant undisclosed ads in a while. Oh Rachel.

Also, where's the (undisclosed) ad for the powders she used to drink and swore by and said she was feeling her best only to then say she had felt ill for ages? Guess they didn't renew her partnership?
 
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Haven't seen such blatant undisclosed ads in a while. Oh Rachel.

Also, where's the (undisclosed) ad for the powders she used to drink and swore by and said she was feeling her best only to then say she had felt I'll for ages? Guess they didn't renew her partnership?
She's one big boring sell out 🥱
Wonder if she feels icky even about herself caving so readily to capitalism and classism. "She's all about" living life simply and pushing this idea to make us think shes got a humble on a shoestring lifestlye, yet advertises stuff only people with goodmoney could afford. Pick a lane bish, cos your followers going to be feeling that health costs mega money. Just another classic shite lie and fad from the West once again. Buy buy buy me you will be better if you just buy me. Selling health again and again.

Nah, eat a balanced diet , do some exercise and rest enough. Fookin ell.
She's definitely the kind of person who is all about having a fancy ass unlimited supply of spenny yoga outfits and wouldn't be seen dead rocking up to someone's class in some bland Asda leggings day in day out (where y'all at, I know you out there with me😜🙋‍♀️)
But wait, did she ever even go to people's classes. I have never once in all the years heard her actually speak about other good teachers, unless they were on HER site
 
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But wait, did she ever even go to people's classes. I have never once in all the years heard her actually speak about other good teachers, unless they were on HER site
I don't think so, at least I don't remember ever seeing her practice under anyone else's teaching. She did at one point - when it became popular to admit that white women have coopted yoga and colonised it and often don't even know it's origins- have Susanna Barkataki on the podcast and in her blog but I don't think she took class with her.

I didn't realize how off that was for a yoga teacher until much later. It just seemed normal for Rachel to always practice alone.
 
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Maybe I’m late to this, but the levels of her delusion and lies are baffling. A new post proclaiming she’s been on Aruba two weeks and hasn’t posted?

Like you’ve posted constantly, does she think Stories don’t count as social media 😁 because that’s some next level hypocrisy. She’s been whining the whole trip. And is it a shock Island Yoga is for sale? Cause it has been for a while now, but she’s presenting like they just listed it or something.

I’ll never understand why people haven’t seen through her nonsense by now.

Side note and a random one, driving home for holiday i guess I had a really old podcast still in my downloads cause one from I think 2017 came on about giving up sugar. It’s like an entirely different person! I know people change and evolve, but seriously listen and it’s like the narrative and even her voice and laugh are different. So strange. She also discusses her sugar addiction eating bags of stroopwafels. Maybe that’s why she felt so crappy after Lea was born, according to her grand anti-veganism announcement it was no meat lol!
 
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Maybe I’m late to this, but the levels of her delusion and lies are baffling. A new post proclaiming she’s been on Aruba two weeks and hasn’t posted?
Yes! These are the kind of things that are so annoying. It makes me feel crazy, posting constantly then saying she's not posting and using social media. It's such a bold lie it's mad she thinks people will believe it when the evidence is literally there. But it's her level of arrogance that she think she can fool people like that when it's so clearly false information 😶

She's obviously insecure about how much she's on it because she is always saying that she isn't on it much. Defensive AF. Most people don't use social media to say they aren't on social media 🤣 They just take a genuine break
She admitted on a podcast a couple of weeks ago she was addicted didn't she. And that she was going to spend less time on social media, but hasn't yet. So obviously if she lies about it people won't think she's weak and not managing her own disciplines.

Same with her whole attitude in general. She has moaned the whole trip, but in this new post if she writes #Grateful then we will all be tricked into thinking she is actually grateful, and therefore this glowing and humble wholesome person. Just because you say you're grateful doesn't mean you're acting like you are genuinely grateful, you have not stopped complaining.
And with her yoga. If she takes photos of herself doing yoga we will all think she is practicing yoga, but it seems more and more obvious her yoga was for show too, without getting much into the yogic state.

Once again she is posting something "so insightful" about how your demons keep following you unless you face them, and once again she is addressing superficial "signs" from the Universe guiding her, but not actually facing the real work of how self obsessed and entitled she might be, so she is riddled with anxiety, hypochondria and addiction 😔😵💫🥴
 
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Side note and a random one, driving home for holiday i guess I had a really old podcast still in my downloads cause one from I think 2017 came on about giving up sugar. It’s like an entirely different person! I know people change and evolve, but seriously listen and it’s like the narrative and even her voice and laugh are different. So strange. She also discusses her sugar addiction eating bags of stroopwafels. Maybe that’s why she felt so crappy after Lea was born, according to her grand anti-veganism announcement it was no meat lol!
This is weirdly a little comforting to hear that she genuinely wasn't this unhinged a few years ago! I'm sure the tendency and/or predilection was always there but it really didn't seem like she was this disingenuous and out of touch with reality when I followed her. Maybe a few moments here and there, but it really did seem like after the Aruba cancelling, something snapped.
 
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Yeah just listening to her cry about having to close island yoga. It’s a big failure and she should be crying. But she let it burn to the ground. Imagine pouring all that energy into it and she use to draw people and have things happening. The business didn’t last long…She says she use to miss the person she use to be, yeah us to, a more tolerable version of herself if that’s possible. She’s mean (an asshole), boring, and clawing for relevancy these days.

Maybe I’m late to this, but the levels of her delusion and lies are baffling. A new post proclaiming she’s been on Aruba two weeks and hasn’t posted?

Like you’ve posted constantly, does she think Stories don’t count as social media 😁 because that’s some next level hypocrisy. She’s been whining the whole trip. And is it a shock Island Yoga is for sale? Cause it has been for a while now, but she’s presenting like they just listed it or something.

I’ll never understand why people haven’t seen through her nonsense by now.

Side note and a random one, driving home for holiday i guess I had a really old podcast still in my downloads cause one from I think 2017 came on about giving up sugar. It’s like an entirely different person! I know people change and evolve, but seriously listen and it’s like the narrative and even her voice and laugh are different. So strange. She also discusses her sugar addiction eating bags of stroopwafels. Maybe that’s why she felt so crappy after Lea was born, according to her grand anti-veganism announcement it was no meat lol!
I looked through her 2019 tab, even then she seemed totally different. I think that Caribbean sun fried her brain and skin.

Our hardworking working class Aruban man Dennis 🥴, having a hazy night.
 

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Goddamn, she is bleeping INSUFFERABLE. “When tea came my way”, shut the duck up you unbearable twit! Oh she really has a way of getting under my skin lol. Wanna take bets on what the next big healing thing will be after tea? I bet it’ll be hallucinogens. She’ll get into growing her own mushrooms. SoOoOoO ancestral.
“When tea came my way”… 🥴 🙃 when she advertises that sweat bag it makes me cringe. Why on earth would I want to sit in my bed and sweat in a plastic bag?? Running on the treadmill could surely achieve the same results of getting a sweat on. Instead of sitting in a stew of $weat in my BED. Also she’s in Aruba where if you sit outside you’ll sweat lol. But IM
SURE she just couldn’t leave Sweden without her spiritual and soul cleansing sweat bag.
 
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Goddamn, she is bleeping INSUFFERABLE. “When tea came my way”, shut the duck up you unbearable twit! Oh she really has a way of getting under my skin lol. Wanna take bets on what the next big healing thing will be after tea? I bet it’ll be hallucinogens. She’ll get into growing her own mushrooms. SoOoOoO ancestral.
So many useless words to describe drinking tea. How does tea cradle your heart? Why would you take those ceramics out one by one, wanted to wake everyone else up? And not long time ago she said that red tea is not tea at all (someone posted a screenshot of that somewhere in this thread). And no way those cards just came up accidentally, she obviously picked them out.
 
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Lol I tried to listen this week to see if she includes the fact that the studio has been listed a while, I couldn’t make it past the intro of bullshit. She’s always in a vulnerable place, and her darlings and loves is so nauseating. She doesn’t “love” her listeners, if she did she wouldn’t have (and continue to) treat them as disposable. She’s not online to inspire or serve, she’s there for adoration and money. It’s an insult to anyone or service.

Does she think she invented sitting and drinking tea now? Oof no more attempts even, I used to be a fan and her jaded, self centered, mean-spirited way of life is so gross, hidden under pseudo-guru bullshit buzzwords. There is NOTHING sacred, ancestral or even healing about peddling ads and causing division in a community that built her up.
 
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