What is an online troll?

[Yel]

Someone that deliberately sends a message to someone to try to upset them and get a reaction.

Gossiping about someone away from their feed is not trolling. Gossip existed before paper. Make yourself a public figure and share your private life and people will want to talk about it.

I haven't seen people on tattle wanting to upset someone, they are just sick of lies and BS. Influencers call tattle hate speech when there's no hate here.

 

[Yoghurtpots]

A troll is personally attacking somebody on their small online space on the internet.
I do not class Tattle as trolling. None of my friends, family or husband watch the YouTubers that I watch, I cannot discuss anything with them and if you leave constructive criticism on their comments it gets deleted by their team or attacked by their minions. Thank goodness Tattle exists so I know that the world hasn't gone mad and that I'm not the only person that sees the shady, dishonest and child exploitation practices of the YouTuber/Instagram marketing industry.

 

[IndominusRex]

I've definitely seen comments on here that I'd describe as below the belt and inappropriate. I've also seen many comments on here that are valuable, reasonable and discerning. There's a difference between criticism and abuse and some people (on both giving and receiving sides) don't seem to understand that.

 

[TheMotherHen-Kathryn]

I think an online troll is a person who personally attacks, threatens and goes out their way to leave nasty comments to someone. To provoke an emotion to that person with the intent to emotionally hurt them. An Internet troll says things to that person that they may not say to that person face to face in real life.

A troll is not someone who disagrees on an opinion and a person who can have a civilised discussion about differences in opinions is not a troll.

 

[Satisfying Click]

The word is losing its meaning as influencers push back against any criticism about their dubious activities. Lots of professionals are held to account with their appropriate regulating bodies. Hell, the police are there to uphold the law - can you imagine...

"You're under arrest for the suspected murder of x"
"How dare you troll me! Be kind"

 

[Yel]

Agreed. Feels like there’s 1. what’s being said here 2. the fact it’s “googleable”. Easily conflated. I think the vast majority of people here wouldn’t care if it wasn’t so searchable/visible, they just want to share their views without trolling.

They're a business, they shouldn't think they're immune from feedback. Any brands will know tattle is peoples opinions, and out of the hundreds of influencers there is only a handful have busy tattle threads. That's because of their own actions.

If you google sali hughes tattle doesn't show up, if you google sali hughes dawn o'porter it does show up with the bullying sali was behind. Seeing the kind of actions sali engaged in and refused to take responsibility for I think it's good there's a record.

 

[erin182]

I feel like a troll is someone who continually harasses someone PERSONALLY; trying to provoke a reaction by saying nasty things simply because they can.
I come on here to gossip about certain ‘influencers’ because I’m sick of their bullshit and dishonesty. It pisses me off that they’re never held accountable when essentially they’re a business. I would never ever just private message hate to someone (anonymous or not) but I WILL talk shit about them on here if I feel they’ve done something I don’t agree with.

 

[black ripped skinnies]

I'm glad this thread has been started.
Since everything with Caroline flacks death, and the world and his wife suddenly becoming holier than Mary and never gossiped, I've been feeling conflicted about posting here and feeling guilty. I would hate to think anything I said in here had an impact on someone that much, but at the same time... You're never going to like everyone! And that's ok. They don't have to read here.
I have never commented on newspaper articles, or DM'd someone, or commented on their own posts.

I started a light hearted thread in a closed Facebook group over a week ago, about celebrities everyone loves but you just don't get... A week later I'm getting comments on it and DM's saying I'm the reason Caroline flack killed herself
I've deleted that post, but it was genuinely light hearted humour.

Edit: to me, there's a big difference between "her hair looks a bit dry/her husband annoys me/wish they wouldn't show their kids like that" to "she should kill herself/he's a paedophile" and quite a few things I've seen on recent Philip Schofield threads.

 

[chocolate choux]

What do people think about influencers saying their main objection to their threads on Tattle is that they are easily seen on google? Genuine issue or smokescreen?

In other words is it that this site exists at all or that for a lot of them it comes up in the first page, sometimes above the fold, when you google just their name?

I do think most of the time there’s no smoke without fire. If the influencers who are complaining about this were not controversial then they wouldn’t have a thread on here / would have a rave thread, so it coming up on Google would not be an issue. You can’t blame others for the consequences of your own actions

I also think that it’s a stupid argument that it’ll damage their reputation / put brands off of working with them for the same reason. Most people don’t know what Tattle even is, if they see the search result they’re not just going to draw inaccurate conclusions, they’re going to click on it and read up on the drama and see the receipts. Again, you can’t blame people for the consequences of your actions

Also I think Tattle and other gossip websites are usually the ones that get judged, not the influencers. People who don’t use these sites assume we’re all slagging people off and being mean for the sake of it, but most of what I’ve seen is genuine and fair criticism. Influencers don’t want their deluded fans to click on the site and discover what it’s really like (and also what they’re really like), that’s why they don’t want it coming up as one of the first results when you Google their name

 

[Yel]

I've definitely seen comments on here that I'd describe as below the belt and inappropriate. I've also seen many comments on here that are valuable, reasonable and discerning. There's a difference between criticism and abuse and some people (on both giving and receiving sides) don't seem to understand that.

The problem I think is some people want to just talk about the ethics of influencers. That's hard to do on a gossip site, because it is a gossip site not an ethics site.

Some think all comments about appearance or anything about the children they share with the world are below the belt and have no place. I've seen comments that I wouldn't make on here, but everything is pretty mild compared to "the internet" and the rare times anything bad is posted here people report it and it's removed quickly, unlike FB, twitter, IG and reddit.

 

[IndominusRex]

I think it you @ someone with something offensive/threatening, or have a large platform that you use to create pile ons (PM/OJ both do this) then you're a troll. I was once called a troll for tweeting that I found someone on bake off annoying. I didn't @ him. I didn't use a hashtag. The only way for him to have seen it is to have vanity searched his own name. I don't think me saying he was annoying is trolling. I think him quote tweeting me and calling me a troll was trolling.

 

[chocolate choux]

I agree with the Cambridge dictionary definition. Some people seem to think trolling = having a different opinion or not kissing someone’s arse. I think the intention to cause upset for the sake of it or desire to get attention is the defining factor here

 

[PineappleQueen19]

What do people think about influencers saying their main objection to their threads on Tattle is that they are easily seen on google? Genuine issue or smokescreen?

In other words is it that this site exists at all or that for a lot of them it comes up in the first page, sometimes above the fold, when you google just their name?

 

[Lynseyp]

The problem with some of these so called influencers is they cannot tell the difference between a troll and someone having a different opinion to them. If you disagree then your comment gets deleted
Very recently a certain influencer whom is well known received a nasty message about her child's appearance. Rather than deleting the comment she decided it would be fun to show her 3m + followers the message and her name, they started having a go at this person and sending death threats.. It had since been reported although not confirmed that this lady has since been sufffering with her mental health and is receiving treatment. Alot of these influencers who are represented by a management team are not very well managed or just plain stupid.

Some of these influencers makes so many posts and include their family constantly as they can make more money and get gifted free items off the back of them by including their children on the gram. Yes you are going to get jealous people, but for people who comment about someone's appearance thats a no no for me.

Today another influencer made a post about how sad she was feeling regarding Caroline Flack and in the same post she was doing an AD for a household product.

 

[Yel]

Is that at me?

Hi Sali Hughes, bye Sali Hughes

 

[Affiliatedlink]

It seems now a Troll is just someone who has an negative opinion other than a positive one. Say anything slightly negative or speak your mind and you are now a Troll.

 

[coconochanel]

I would say a troll is someone who messages the person via twitter/IG and says nasty things. I don't think writing on a forum is trolling nor is calling them out for their shadiness and lies.

 

[Satisfying Click]

What do people think about influencers saying their main objection to their threads on Tattle is that they are easily seen on google? Genuine issue or smokescreen?

Probably a bit of both. Perhaps if small businesses and the like and looking to collaborate #kindlygiftedthings then it might put them off engaging if they think that person is linked to anything controversial.

 

[Itsmethatlikesamoan]

to me a troll is someone who tags the person in a post ie and attacks them personally or makes remarks about their appearance..... ie your are so ugly.... why don’t you kill yourself, go ahead and die... I hope you get cancer etc....deliberately baiting or poking them... I’ve seen those sorts of things and it’s physically made me feel sick.
i do see a big difference between that and having an opinion on someone or on their morals mainly for my part I feel social influencers get away with a lot of shit if I see them advertising skinny coffee, detox teas, 21 buttons etc and make money from it then they should be criticised for it equally if they say their job is a social influencer they are fair game... if they make money from what they do they are fair game.
I’ve seen a lot of bad behaviour from these social influencers who think the world revolves around them ... they work tirelessly for your benefit to tell you all about these products, for getting you codes so you get the best deals ( no you don't do it for my benefit it because you earn a living from it )
equally if they have posted something one minute and something else the next call them out on it ....
Are we all just meant to ignore all of this and allow them to hoodwink younger easier to influence people so they make money from them.

 

[Satisfying Click]

Hi Sali Hughes, bye Sali Hughes

Sali would never visit this site, it must be her Internet Lawyer, surely?