US Politics #6

[bubbadabut]

Yeah, at the moment generics count for about 95% of cases...80% inherited and 10-15% non-inherited factors. A lot of actual researchers and those in the know are pushing back on the claim saying there is no link whatsoever. There was a study done in 2004 where they researched almost 2.5 million siblings born between 1995 to 2019 in Sweden where mothers took acetaminophen which is the ingredient in Tylenol they are claiming causes it and there was not one bit of proof found.

Wouldn't surprise me im the slightest if the autism announcement is about paracetamol use in pregnancy. It's the only safe, over-the-counter pain relief drug that women can use when pregnant. So if they claim there's a link, women will either have to endure their entire pregnancy with no reliable pain relief, or carry the guilt that they may have caused their child's autism because they took a couple of paracetamol for a headache.

Sounds about right for such a misogynistic administration.

 

[bubbadabut]

If you're outraged at "the left's" response to Charlie Kirk's shooting, you must live a very sheltered life. I saw a post on FB yesterday about tourists on a beach trying to push a migrant boat back out to sea. Top rated comment was "should have tipped it over".

10 seconds on X/Twitter will lead you to no end of hateful comments from "the right".

It's not a left or right problem. It's a societal problem, largely caused by social media, a 24/7 online culture and the ability to be able to say what you want online to get a reaction, often with a reasonable degree of anonymity.

This is the beast that the internet and social media has created.

Here's Saint Charlie himself, commenting on successful black women.




And again, on black pilots, black women in customer service, black surgeons.



I could literally sit here all day posting clips of this guy spouting his hate to the masses. It is hateful, and it is extreme. And it was all done under the guise of being a good Christian!

 

[Tangerine Dream]

I'm getting increasingly disturbed and upset by the reactions to Charlie Kirk's shooting.

He is not someone I could ever say I liked and it would have been one in a blue moon that he'd have made a point I would have agreed with but I've not seen the nastiness as witnessed in people openly celebrating his assassination.

A world where people brag about how delighted they are that someone was gunned down for their opinion and beliefs is not a world I want to live in. It doesn't matter how abhorrent some of those opinions and beliefs may be to me personally. There is something deeply and I fear irreversably rotten within many and I want to say it is the internet that has given people a platform to act out on but it surely must go deeper than that. We've seen throughout history how wicked humanity can be but the people celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder have really left me scratching my head. They are seeing it as a badge of honour to get fired from their jobs for posting the most disgusting tweets, tiktoks whatever that they can think up. It's one of the more hideous displays I've seen in my lifetime.

You don't have to like someone. You don't have to agree with them.

It sickens and frightens me that this is what it's all come to in the realm of the worst of the toxic political activism that's out there these days.

 

[MissHavisham]

I saw a funny tweet which said something along the lines of 'why does Kash Patel always look like he's in a body swap comedy, playing a 12 year old boy who has been suddenly transported to the head of the FBI' and now whenever I see him it's all I can think of

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his panicked expression reminds me of that man who was in the BBC for a job interview and accidentally ended up being interviewed on the BBC news about cyber security or something!

 

[bubbadabut]

Sorry, couldn't resist. Don't cancel me

 

[Lammington]

I'm trying to decide if a glorified political rally, complete with pyrotechnics, is a fitting memorial. I mean, it's very in the spirit of what Charlie Kirk called for and favoured, but it feels in poor taste to see such clear politicking at an event ostensibly to honour someone who was killed.

 

[Merpedy]

It's not her problem that America is a powderkeg.

She just happens to be part of the group lighting that powderkeg

 

[thegirlscout]

Her words sound like a call to action, and they will be taken as such by some.

Especially when she uses terms like ‘spiritual warfare’ calls her husband a ‘martyr’ and says that ‘the cries of this widow will echo around the world’.
The whole thing didn’t feel like it was coming from a place of grief but a place of revenge and anger. Which I understand but America is like a tinderbox at the moment and to me it felt very unwise for a young widow of a man so publicly assassinated to be doing that. I also found parts of the speech a promotion of his brand. Combined with posting photos of his dead body in the coffin and her crying it feels a bit tasteless and whoever is advising her is making sure they get as much mileage as they can out of this horrible event.

 

[bluecups]

I'm a long time follower and supporter of Charlie Kirk. I was appalled to see the hysterical, coordinated efforts to 'expose' people celebrating CK's death. Employers being railroaded into sacking people who expressed these views and being pressured into giving public statements confirming the sackings. People losing their jobs, not being able to pay their rent and feed their families, for what? Exercising their free speech?

I felt sick seeing some of these people gleefully declaring "Yay! Charlie Kirk is dead, good riddance!". But just because I find that abhorrent and crass doesn't mean they don't have the right to say that. The right to free speech has to apply to everyone or it just doesn't work at all.

I'm also finding the responses by many people to the prospect of Tyler Robinson being executed by firing squad very disturbing. Some are calling for the execution to be public. I'm opposed to the death penalty for anyone, for any crime.

What's the difference between CK's mother weeping at her son's grave for being executed by gunshot and TR's mother weeping at her son's grave for being executed by gunshot? There isn't any.

 

[Lammington]

Honestly, her speaking publicly while so clearly in a state of anger and grief and while her husband's death is being used to stoke up anger against various groups feels very unwise.
Her words sound like a call to action, and they will be taken as such by some.

 

[Lammington]

One thing I am noticing is that there's a lot of information being pumped out without a lot being confirmed or corrected. Kirk's wife and children were in the crowd according to articles, then those articles quietly removed that statement but never issued a correction so it's still being repeated.
The casings were inscribed with pro-trans statements, but that was actually the brand logo.
Robinson is the only leftist in a MAGA family, but those statements had to be removed because the source admitted not actually having sufficient knowledge of him to make such claims.
Robinson has a live-in trans partner, except there's no indication of any relationship but roommates, or any confirmation that roommate is trans.

The media are playing fast and loose and are even publishing names & images of people trying to implicate them in a motive. They need to show some journalistic integrity before they end up inciting further violence from those they're relying on incensing for clicks.

 

[Lammington]

I feel like a lot of people are only seeing and reacting to these responses with this murder because it's being made much more public as it is someone on the right, and someone whose social media presence was large.
Because I assure you, the gloating and pleasure in someone's death was present when Melissa Hortman and her husband were murdered. The jokes and encouragement was happening when Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked with a hammer by an intruder in their home looking for her.

You may not have seen it or cared about it when it was right wingers celebrating, but it was happening. This lack of humanity over political divides is not new, it has not suddenly got worse, it's just that the response is being highlighted and far more aggressively targeted and retaliated against.

 

[Miss Begotten]

It's been crazy watching the reception go from foaming at the mouth at the Libs to "oh... oh it must be someone who is mentally unwell"

Indeed.

 

[thegirlscout]

The left are hypocrites, the right are hypocrites, so are the centre. There are hypocrites in every section of politics.

 

[Tangerine Dream]

Agree with above, the left are hateful. Well the ones who celebrate are, gross people. I think Tyler shot him, I don’t think it was Israel. They wouldn’t do it at a rally either, I think people hate Israel so much they really do clutch at straws.

My 2p worth is I wouldn't say only "the left" are hateful.

All directions, age groups and educational backgrounds seem so extreme now with whatever their political leaning is. It's horrendous and making every day life particularly unpleasant to navigate.

I primarily blame the tabloids, mainstream media and social media for things being as bad as they are. It's felt like there's no escape from politics for some years now and that's going to be bad for mental health. It's infected fictional media too, on a ridiculous level at times.

 

[sailortwift]

Having watched her entire speech i personally feel shes referring to a resurgence of Christianity rather than violence etc, the edited clip seems to make more sense in context (we know how much everyone loves a snippet to push a view though). Maybe im naieve but I think shes spoken so soon for him rather than for herself.

 

[TheMan]

Insanity. It'll do nothing to disprove Charlie and lot of other people's views that trans is a mental health condition. Said it a million and one times but Charlie might have used words people found upsetting, he never used violence or encouraged anyone else to do so.
I fear if the was the real motive as well that it'll have a more damaging effect on the lgbt movement than positive. People are getting fed up of it already without giving them more reasons to be tired of it

They're getting fed up with putting up with mentally ill blokes thinking they're women. Not the LBGT community. Deep down, most people don't trust troons. Especially women.

 

[Ellelalala]

Well don't shoot people in public then? They brought this on themselves.

He was murdered by one person, there isn't a "they" in this context.

 

[Tryger88]

My 2p worth is I wouldn't say only "the left" are hateful.

All directions, age groups and educational backgrounds seem so extreme now with whatever their political leaning is. It's horrendous and making every day life particularly unpleasant to navigate.

I primarily blame the tabloids, mainstream media and social media for things being as bad as they are. It's felt like there's no escape from politics for some years now and that's going to be bad for mental health. It's infected fictional media too, on a ridiculous level at times.

It seems Britain is becoming like USA, you're on one side or the other mainstream media I would say is the biggest problem, in this instance with Charlie Kirk the 'left' have been exceptionally disturbing, I didn't agree with everything he said (due to his Christian/religious beliefs) but to think he and his family deserved this is sickening, even here on tattle a poster asked 'is it to late to open a bottle of wine?' on the same day he was murdered in front of his family.

It's upsetting and shocking that people can be so evil.

 

[Veronicaaa]

And this moron is the Director of the FBI? Trump's 'top' guys seem as bright as the Ant Hill Mob!

I saw a funny tweet which said something along the lines of 'why does Kash Patel always look like he's in a body swap comedy, playing a 12 year old boy who has been suddenly transported to the head of the FBI' and now whenever I see him it's all I can think of