The Sullivan Family #15 Zoe’s feeling all hurty, because people have said her home is cluttered and dirty

[spilleroftea]

Zoe is just weird.

They have just left the forces after years.. if that’s not being in a box.
Society lives in boxes, it’s called normality.

All of your other kids are in school, so living in those boxes. But won’t send Jo cif. If it’s because he’s not potty trained, get cracking and work with the school because they will take kids in pull ups, all schools do.
My boy is the same age, spent last year in nursery and going into reception this year, I couldn’t imagine not letting him go with his siblings.

And ok, so he stays at home… what’s the plan? Are you going to tutor him and get him ready to start school? Read with him, teach him phonics and how to right? Are you fudge. So eventually when he does start school, when Zoe’s bored of him and Flo can occupy herself not only will he have the issues that Zoe is pushing on him, he will also be behind his classmates in these foundation skills which are not easy to catch up on.

When he’s been shown in the new house he looks so happy, he’s been chatting away too and his speech was very clear.

Maybe he just didn’t like being in that old house surrounded by clutter, Oh but he still is…

Did only the primary go back yesterday?

 

[Kate1970]

Zoe is just weird.

They have just left the forces after years.. if that’s not being in a box.
Society lives in boxes, it’s called normality.

All of your other kids are in school, so living in those boxes. But won’t send Jo cif. If it’s because he’s not potty trained, get cracking and work with the school because they will take kids in pull ups, all schools do.
My boy is the same age, spent last year in nursery and going into reception this year, I couldn’t imagine not letting him go with his siblings.

And ok, so he stays at home… what’s the plan? Are you going to tutor him and get him ready to start school? Read with him, teach him phonics and how to right? Are you fudge. So eventually when he does start school, when Zoe’s bored of him and Flo can occupy herself not only will he have the issues that Zoe is pushing on him, he will also be behind his classmates in these foundation skills which are not easy to catch up on.

When he’s been shown in the new house he looks so happy, he’s been chatting away too and his speech was very clear.

Maybe he just didn’t like being in that old house surrounded by clutter, Oh but he still is…

Did only the primary go back yesterday?

Where I live in Centtral Scotland, Falkirk Council area, Schools go back today, I think other areas may slightly differ though?

 

[Hyacinthsquash]

Poor Jocif. If it doesn’t scream social services intervention then I don’t know what does. That boy is being failed. It should show up red flags on a system somewhere that he’s never attended nursery and now not attending school.. they really need some outside intervention. Being held back a year will have a knock on effect for the rest of his life. Imagine being a year older than everyone in your school year for your entire school life. They really really need to get him in nursery as well as groups at the library or whatever. Flo is going the same way with how she reacts to strangers as well.

 

[silentwatcher30]

Zoe has not sent Joseph for her own benefit. Poor boy being stuck at home all day every day. Why couldn't she send him to see how he got on. If he is still in nappies that is laziness on her behalf aswel.

 

[Goosebumps]

I attended a reception info evening just before the summer holidays and the teacher mentioned that they have everything in place for those still in nappies. Unless there is a medical or behavioral reason, your child not being out of nappies at this age is unacceptable. What is the world coming to that parents aren’t teaching their children basic skills?! How awful for the child, no socialization and still in nappies.

 

[VirtualSignal]

Unless there is a valid medical reason for a child still being in nappies at 4/5, schools I know of will call the parent and ask them to come in and change them. Teachers / TA’s don’t have time to nappy change as well as everything else they’re expected to do!

 

[Kikifluffypolarbear]

I honestly think Zoe can't deal with having just 1 little one at home. Remember she pulled Agnes out of nursery too... They're setting the stage for Flo to go the same way imo when in reality she's probably just not used to anyone other than family. I don't know if Joseph is autistic or not tbh, it's a spectrum and how he acts on camera isn't necessarily an indication. He's probably just realised playing up for the camera is how you get positive attention in that household. Regardless though, I don't think being stuck at home babysat by his big sister and getting barely any stimulation or social contact is going to benefit him.

 

[armywife119]

She just doesn’t want the extra work and cost it involves. Homework, uniform to buy, plus she’s panicking she can’t have anymore and needs to hang on and try to keep them as babies. It’s awful I feel so bad for him, it’s going to make him stand out when he does start. Why can’t she put her kids first for once??

I see Charlotte went back so she doesn’t have her free babysitter at home anymore. I bet she tries to encourage her not to go.

 

[spilleroftea]

My son went to Reception and part of year 1 in pull ups, it was a medical reason to do with his bowel.
They had everything in place for him including a shower.

But in my experience I have known of others enter reception with nappies and no medical reason, they ask for pull ups and we try and encourage the use of the toilet. It happens they just don’t encourage it.



I also looked into differing the start of school for another child because they were born just before the cut off so are the youngest in the year. I thought this meant they would start reception a year later and in fact didn’t, it meant that they would go straight into year1.
After spending time with the teacher we had agreed to start her on half days as see how she was like all of the kids and if we needed to keep it like that for longer we could. She managed no problem, like all of the other kids and went to full days without any issues. Years later she’s at the top end of the year and all reports say exceeding expectations.
Im glad I gave her the chance to try.

 

[Hazelnut22]

I had noticed he was still in pull ups. It looked a bit like She missed the opportunity to get him potty trained with the arrival of Flo. Let’s face it she obviously was totally overwhelmed and exhausted, and makes parenting look hard. However, even if Joseph has additional needs he still needs to be out of nappies and effort needs to be directed at this. No doubt she is still hoping for another baby as she definitely hasn’t treasured Flo as a “last” baby, as you perhaps would if you had accepted the baby days are over. Maybe get the cameras off your children for £££ and focus on their needs privately…

 

[WhoGivesAPenny]

All schools in the Moray area went back yesterday.

Joseph should definitely be in nursery. This would give her time to socialise Flo.

 

[JustCallMeMum]

I wonder if they qualified for the uniform grant £120 each for primary and £150 each for high school. Because if so it's not been spent on uniform
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I attended a reception info evening just before the summer holidays and the teacher mentioned that they have everything in place for those still in nappies. Unless there is a medical or behavioral reason, your child not being out of nappies at this age is unacceptable. What is the world coming to that parents aren’t teaching their children basic skills?! How awful for the child, no socialization and still in nappies.

All part of her being a crap mother and not meeting the childrens basic needs

Zoe will only do what Zoe wants and thats that, even if it is to the detriment of her children

 

[spilleroftea]

Funny there is no older kids back to school post or Eva’s first day…
Is that because what we say here is true Zoe?

 

[Bohemiskeye]

I understand it’s more common in Scotland to defer starting reception, however isn’t that usually for the younger kids of the year?
For me it’s the fact there’s no nursery, no groups, no soft play, no trips to the library or other free things. Just 11 siblings to ‘play’ with. It’s just selfish

 

[StrawberryTart]

Why does she put them in crappy trainers for school? They’re in them all day 70% of the week. Get the kids some decent shoes ffs although at this point I guess they’re lucky they aren’t being sent in crocs.

I have to say, at their school and also where my kids go, the uniform is very relaxed. Very few kids wear proper shoes anymore, trainers are the norm. They do a lot of outdoor learning/getting dirty and are expected to wear footwear suitable for that. I’d criticise them for many things but disagree that this is an issue.

Having said that, I think cheap Shoe Zone or supermarket trainers are not good enough.

 

[carolinew]

She just doesn’t want the extra work and cost it involves. Homework, uniform to buy, plus she’s panicking she can’t have anymore and needs to hang on and try to keep them as babies. It’s awful I feel so bad for him, it’s going to make him stand out when he does start. Why can’t she put her kids first for once??

I see Charlotte went back so she doesn’t have her free babysitter at home anymore. I bet she tries to encourage her not to go.

Charlotte went back where? Sorry but I must have missed this.

 

[Kikifluffypolarbear]

Charlotte went back where? Sorry but I must have missed this.

They pulled her out of school a while back as apparently she has/had an eating disorder and related mental health struggles and school weren't being supportive, or should I say they didn't accept the support offered. Pretty much Zoe disparaging education as usual and them thinking they know best and are above any advice. Good to see she's back now as I highly doubt she was doing much home learning.

 

[Goosebumps]

Would Charlotte not have missed her National 5 exams? So now she’s in S5, how does that work?
Must be lovely starting a new school year with your peers having watched your entire summer holidays on YouTube. The poor children have no privacy. I also wonder if any of them are aware of this and have read it?

 

[StrawberryTart]

Would Charlotte not have missed her National 5 exams? So now she’s in S5, how does that work?
Must be lovely starting a new school year with your peers having watched your entire summer holidays on YouTube. The poor children have no privacy. I also wonder if any of them are aware of this and have read it?

I feel so sad for her, I hope she has some good friends around her

 

[Hollysmum]

In Scotland you can now defer to the following year if you are still 4 when school begins in August, even if your birthday is late August. Quite a few 5th yrs still do nat 5s so Charlotte will be able to continue with that or maybe nat 4.
Agree its ridiculous not to send Joseph anywhere at all, not even mother and toddler groups I would be going mad stuck in.