Summary:
This is a thread to discuss the murders of Kaylee Gonscalves, Maddie Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin who were killed in their off-campus university home on Nov 13th.
The local coroner later confirmed all four deaths were as a result of stabbing.
The house in which they died had 3 floors, and was built into a hill, having entry points on the bottom floor, and the middle floor, at the back. The two surviving flatmates, who slept through the incident, had rooms on the bottom floor. The victims were sharing two of the other bedrooms. Ethan and Xana, who were in a relationship, in one room on the middle floor, and Maddie and Kaylee were asleep together in Maddie's room on the top floor after a night out.
There is a suggestion that the killer entered by the middle floor and missed the two surviving room mates but we do not know if this was intentional or accidental.
Kaylee had recently moved out of the house and was back visiting for a last weekend before taking up a job, elsewhere. Kaylee had her dog, Murphy, with her. The dog was retrieved unharmed on the evening after the murders, and there is some confusion as to where he was found.
What happened that night:
Kaylee and Maddie had been out clubbing, to The Corner Club bar in the town. They left the bar and visited a food vendor called The Grub truck. An interesting point about The Grub Truck is that it livestreams over Twitch when it is open. Because of this there is a video of Kaylee and Maddie ordering and waiting for food on the night they were killed. A man in a white hoodie is seen tracking them from one side of the vendor to the other, with the girls appearing to be aware of him, but ignoring him. Kaylee stays looking at her phone and appears to take a over the shoulder picture of him. The girls retrieve their food, their lift arrives (confirmed to be a university service/sober ride service) and the man in the white hoodie lifts his arms up in an exasperated way when he sees they have left without him. He then runs off and disappears off camera. There are rumours about his identity online. If true he is a schoolmate of one of the surviving roommates and of Maddies boyfriend.
The girls are confirmed to have got home at 1:56am.
Xana and Ethan's evening timeline is less clear, they attended a party at the Sigma Chi fraternity (of which Ethan is a member) and then arrive home at around1:45am. We do not know what they did between those times.
Kaylee makes a series of unanswered calls to her ex boyfriend shortly after getting home.
They are murdered some time over night
The roommates wake up around 12pm, something happens, they call other people (not police) which results in other people arriving at the house, including Ethan's brother. Someone then makes a call to the police about an 'unconscious person'. No details have been released about that call.
The missing dog is located sometime later that day. It is not known if it was in the house somewhere or wandering outside. It has been returned to Kaylee's ex, who she shared ownership with.
Later:
Forensics closed the house off, and grounds and were searched.
Kaylees family have done many tv interviews, her Dad has said various things such as 'Kaylee was murdered 'more brutally than the others' and 'he didn't need to go up the steps' and 'they (the victims) have different points of damage' 'he came in through the slider' (I gather slider is what people from Idaho call sliding patio doors)
Kaylees sister Alivea said 'they cleared some people too early' indicating some peoples alibis need to be looked at.
Xana's Mum echoed this. Made a slight nudge to the remaining roommates.
Resources:
Brian Entin ( @brianentin on Twitter) who reported on the Gabby Petito case has travelled to Moscow, Idaho to cover the story. He is a good, neutral source of truth (IMO)
This is a thread to discuss the murders of Kaylee Gonscalves, Maddie Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin who were killed in their off-campus university home on Nov 13th.
The local coroner later confirmed all four deaths were as a result of stabbing.
The house in which they died had 3 floors, and was built into a hill, having entry points on the bottom floor, and the middle floor, at the back. The two surviving flatmates, who slept through the incident, had rooms on the bottom floor. The victims were sharing two of the other bedrooms. Ethan and Xana, who were in a relationship, in one room on the middle floor, and Maddie and Kaylee were asleep together in Maddie's room on the top floor after a night out.
There is a suggestion that the killer entered by the middle floor and missed the two surviving room mates but we do not know if this was intentional or accidental.
Kaylee had recently moved out of the house and was back visiting for a last weekend before taking up a job, elsewhere. Kaylee had her dog, Murphy, with her. The dog was retrieved unharmed on the evening after the murders, and there is some confusion as to where he was found.
What happened that night:
Kaylee and Maddie had been out clubbing, to The Corner Club bar in the town. They left the bar and visited a food vendor called The Grub truck. An interesting point about The Grub Truck is that it livestreams over Twitch when it is open. Because of this there is a video of Kaylee and Maddie ordering and waiting for food on the night they were killed. A man in a white hoodie is seen tracking them from one side of the vendor to the other, with the girls appearing to be aware of him, but ignoring him. Kaylee stays looking at her phone and appears to take a over the shoulder picture of him. The girls retrieve their food, their lift arrives (confirmed to be a university service/sober ride service) and the man in the white hoodie lifts his arms up in an exasperated way when he sees they have left without him. He then runs off and disappears off camera. There are rumours about his identity online. If true he is a schoolmate of one of the surviving roommates and of Maddies boyfriend.
The girls are confirmed to have got home at 1:56am.
Xana and Ethan's evening timeline is less clear, they attended a party at the Sigma Chi fraternity (of which Ethan is a member) and then arrive home at around1:45am. We do not know what they did between those times.
Kaylee makes a series of unanswered calls to her ex boyfriend shortly after getting home.
They are murdered some time over night
The roommates wake up around 12pm, something happens, they call other people (not police) which results in other people arriving at the house, including Ethan's brother. Someone then makes a call to the police about an 'unconscious person'. No details have been released about that call.
The missing dog is located sometime later that day. It is not known if it was in the house somewhere or wandering outside. It has been returned to Kaylee's ex, who she shared ownership with.
Later:
Forensics closed the house off, and grounds and were searched.
Kaylees family have done many tv interviews, her Dad has said various things such as 'Kaylee was murdered 'more brutally than the others' and 'he didn't need to go up the steps' and 'they (the victims) have different points of damage' 'he came in through the slider' (I gather slider is what people from Idaho call sliding patio doors)
Kaylees sister Alivea said 'they cleared some people too early' indicating some peoples alibis need to be looked at.
Xana's Mum echoed this. Made a slight nudge to the remaining roommates.
Resources:
Brian Entin ( @brianentin on Twitter) who reported on the Gabby Petito case has travelled to Moscow, Idaho to cover the story. He is a good, neutral source of truth (IMO)
