The Moscow/Idaho Murders #5

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The evidence is real, they have so many videos of his car from the night of the murders from people's ring doorbells, house cctv and cctv from businesses they can map his route out. It's in the court documents , that's why he tried to get the traffic stop videos of him in his car removed from evidence
I posted a link further up to a you tube video where someone has mapped out his routes using the cctv
You can see him circling the house like a shark
 
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The last special they aired mentioned evidence that he purchased a knife which turned out to be true 🤷‍♀️ Obviously this isn’t confirmed in any filings yet, but I always find Dateline pretty reliable tbh. Obvs we won’t know for sure until the trial, just sharing what’s being reported 😊
Dateline is American and have been going for over 30 years!

They are part of NBC and do investigative journalism.

The show is well respected here in the US because they have been credible.

They wouldn't have survived this long nor have loyal viewers for decades if they were not credible.

I think we need to take opinions with a grain salt depending on who is saying it and which side they are supporting.

Do they have a vested interest in saying certain things?

In the end, the truth will all come out in court and we can see who is right.
 
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The last special they aired mentioned evidence that he purchased a knife which turned out to be true 🤷‍♀️ Obviously this isn’t confirmed in any filings yet, but I always find Dateline pretty reliable tbh. Obvs we won’t know for sure until the trial, just sharing what’s being reported 😊
After the Dateline Special about the Idaho Murders with Jennifer C, someone asked Profiling with Pat Brown under one of her videos , if Dateline credible and she said that she in the passed had offer them information to help with a show. But the show that Dateline went in a different direction of what she gave them. So Profiling with Pat Brown said that she doesn't consider Dateline to be credible. Yeah, Dateline does get somethings right but not all the time.

The state hasn't confirm that the "knife" purchased was one with a knife sheath with "Ka-Bar" 'USMC" and the United States Marine Corps eagle globe and anchor insignia stamped on the outside of it. Also when you purchase on Amazon there is usually an invoice that is saved to the account. and the state is using a witness to prove that Bryan purchases a knife. They are also using click activity which is interesting to me.
 
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The click activity is in relation to the search he made after the murders, they are using it to try show he looked for the same knife after the murders to replace the one he used. I don't think it's odd , they're using it to show he tried to replace the other knife because he threw it away ot whatever after the murders. It's all relevant in the bigger picture

The full amazon evidence is under seal so we don't know about the exact sheath.

Is it normal in America for so much evidence to be available to the public before trial? In Ireland none of this would be released before trial, surely this taints the jury pool?
 
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If he's innocent, where is the knife he bought? He should have been able to produce it, or tell investigators where it is. The fact he was searching for a new one after the murders doesn't look good, whichever way you want to spin it. You don't have to agree that Dateline are credible, that's fine. I do 🤷‍♀️
 
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After the Dateline Special about the Idaho Murders with Jennifer C, someone asked Profiling with Pat Brown under one of her videos , if Dateline credible and she said that she in the passed had offer them information to help with a show. But the show that Dateline went in a different direction of what she gave them. So Profiling with Pat Brown said that she doesn't consider Dateline to be credible. Yeah, Dateline does get somethings right but not all the time.

The state hasn't confirm that the "knife" purchased was one with a knife sheath with "Ka-Bar" 'USMC" and the United States Marine Corps eagle globe and anchor insignia stamped on the outside of it. Also when you purchase on Amazon there is usually an invoice that is saved to the account. and the state is using a witness to prove that Bryan purchases a knife. They are also using click activity which is interesting to me.
So she indeed had a vested interest for herself.

She essentially states they were not credible because they chose not to work with her.

If she always questioned their credibility, she would never have even broached such a show to want to work with them, correct?

Speaks volumes right there.

And right now, everything is speculative by every single commentator, because NO ONE has seen any evidence because no one is privy to it until it comes out in court.

What makes this profiler think she is right? Unless she herself is part of the prosecution or defence and holds actual hardcore evidence.

Though then she would be in violation and would get disbarred.

Every single show, journalist, profiler and lawyer is speculating at this point.

However, clearly she had a vested interest and spoke out when Dateline chose not to work with her.

Millions of Americans continue to watch Dateline more than 30 years later, because they are credible.

If one is not in the US and has not watched Dateline for years themselves following numerous crimes the show has investigated, to see their credibility for oneself, I am unsure how one can come up with such a statement, instead taking the word of some random ex-profiler who was refused work by Dateline.

I have watched them for over 25 years of the 32 years they have been on, following numerous crimes and investigative pieces.

They also are under NBC, the National Broadcasting Corporation, one of the biggest in the US that started in the 1920s.

There is no way they would have started or support a non-credible show that millions of Americans have watched for well over 30 years. Universal Studios is also a partner.

These broadcasting network giants wouldn't successfully launch Dateline 32 years ago still with millions of American viewers decades later.
 
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The click activity is in relation to the search he made after the murders, they are using it to try show he looked for the same knife after the murders to replace the one he used. I don't think it's odd , they're using it to show he tried to replace the other knife because he threw it away ot whatever after the murders. It's all relevant in the bigger picture

The full amazon evidence is under seal so we don't know about the exact sheath.

Is it normal in America for so much evidence to be available to the public before trial? In Ireland none of this would be released before trial, surely this taints the jury pool?
No evidence is not available....this is all speculation by every single person.

it's stunning to me that so many take random commentators information as truth, especially from YouTube etc.

They are not privy to any evidence.

Absolutely no one is right now except what is released by the courts and what evidence the prosecution and defence have accumulated.

If they are throwing real evidence out there to the public, before trial, the evidence will get thrown out of court and cannot be used.

...and whomever from the prosecution and defence is releasing evidence would automatically be held in contempt and get jailed and disbarred.

Every single person is playing guessing games at this point, ourselves included.
 
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The amazon stuff is available in court documents though so there is some evidence out there but lots of it still under seal , and rightly so.
I'm just amazed at the amount of evidence that is freely available in court documents. Media wouldn't even be allowed speculate in Ireland or the trial will collapse. Even people commenting on social media can be classed as prejudice to the defence and collapse a trial.
 
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The amazon stuff is available in court documents though so there is some evidence out there but lots of it still under seal , and rightly so.
I'm just amazed at the amount of evidence that is freely available in court documents. Media wouldn't even be allowed speculate in Ireland or the trial will collapse. Even people commenting on social media can be classed as prejudice to the defence and collapse a trial.

That's scary that evidence is being released but if the judge decides it can be released, then he clearly believes it will not sway the case.

That's scary though. I hope the case does not collapse because of such evidence being released.

I work in Psych not Law so can't speak to the actual laws around this.

I've just known in the past if evidence was released when not approved, the attorneys etc, are held in contempt, literally jailed and disbarred.

Crimes that had so much global interest in the past were committed by serial killers....Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer etc.

I think this case though with 4 innocent kids brutally killed like this must hit home with parents globally, uni kids.... just everyone in general.

It could have been any one of us during uni and what these uni kids were up to on a random Saturday night, millions of us did too at uni at the weekend, right?

It's honestly so shocking and just so sad....also the innocence of these 4 young kids with what they were up to right before they were murdered.

Plus the two surviving roommates and the friend that discovered Xana and Ethan....

Seeing his friends dead in such a violent manner, that scene....Hunter is traumatised for life.

Sadly, they will all get re-traumatised once trial begins.....
 
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The new selfie that’s been posted of him is absolute nightmare fuel. Taken the day before he was arrested as well.
 
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But how is this evidence of guilty (not saying he's innocent) did witness say he had a black robe? My brain can't keep up..
Maybe it is just the picture quality...is it even a robe?

I think there is a marked difference in BK now compared to how he looked. BK looking so gaunt prior to the murders makes me think he was unlikely alone in all this.
Maybe BK was working out/running extra hard around that time? The Strava app certainly points to that!
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Maybe it is just the picture quality...is it even a robe?

I think there is a marked difference in BK now compared to how he looked. BK looking so gaunt prior to the murders makes me think he was unlikely alone in all this.
Maybe BK was working out/running extra hard around that time? The Strava app certainly points to that!
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I don't know the background of the selfie but it kinda looks like a rain jacket, he could have just took it to see how it looks on him 🤔 I do that all the time 🤷
Yes it looks creepy knowing that he's the suspect but other than that I'm not sure why it's of relevance, without context it's just a bloke with a hoodie 🤷
 
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It was taken just before he was arrested .

Did anyone see the dateline special , I can't get it in Ireland but I'm reading bits about it where I can find this morning.
He sat in a chair in xanas room ? And left a blood imprint 😳
He also had 2 phone calls with his dad the morning after the murders , one was 30 mins and one was 60 mins, wonder If his dad will have to testify what they spoke about.

What is this rumour about there being a word carved into ethans leg , wtf

There seems to be more evidence of maddie being the target but they haven't released it.

I mean all this evidence pointing so obvious to him at this point I have to wonder if this was an experiment like that kate Winslet movie about the death penalty. And there is tonnes more evidence for trial this is just the evidence that's been released. They have a video of his car speeding away from the crime scene. Is he dumb or did he want to be caught . It's like the only thing he thought of and was careful about was physical dna
 
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Wow a lot of info from the Dateline special. Here’s a rundown of some of the key parts:

- The audio of the dog barking, person whimpering and thud is played. It’s really disturbing, poor Murphy sounds so distressed.

- Sources believe MM was the target. KG being in the bed asleep caught him by surprise, but he attacked anyway. It was noisy. XK overheard the commotion and came to investigate, he chased her to her room where he attacked. Hence the sheath being forgotten. They said it was a very intense fight.

- EC was passed out in a deep, drunk sleep. He was killed with one stab to an artery. BK then carved his legs. This is speculated to be because he had rage towards EC being a male.

- BK then sat in the chair in XK’s bedroom, because there was a bloody print.

- They think he saw DM but was so exhausted by this point (hence sitting in the chair). And he wasn’t sure if she had called 911 or had someone in her room too. They think her staying so calm kept her alive and if she had started screaming, he would’ve killed her too.

- There’s new footage of the car speeding away dangerously fast. And there was also footage of the car circling the house before the crime.

- A friend of MM was meant to sleep over that weekend but didn’t as she had to pet sit.

- BK had viewed/saved over 60 new articles, photos and videos about the murders.

- They found lots of photos of women in bikinis etc on his phone of girls who went to the uni. Some of these girls were friends with the victims.

- BK’s computer history showed he was listening to a slowed down TikTok style edit of the song Criminal by Brittany Spears. Like those grim edits you get that worship killers

- They said he connected to the cell towers with 100m of the house over a dozen times starting in July

- They showed more of the creepy selfies. And how he was imitating a photo of a thumbnail for a Ted Bundy documentary

- There’s a lady who shared an office with BK at WSU. They were friends, she was interested in him and he pulled away. Her apartment got broken into (things were taken and also moved around). She had a key for her apartment in the office they shared which went missing. When she said this to BK, the key then soon reappeared. She then asked BK to help install some security cameras in her apartment. She then wondered if he had somehow given himself access.

There’s more but that’s what I can remember right now.
 
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They've released the audio of the whimpering and thud too , has anyone heard it

Also the amazon click evidence, he searched for kabar knife sheath only, after the murders, he knew he had left it there
This guy is fcked , wonder If there are any unsolved rapes and murders between where he lives and goes to uni and his parents .

He had dozens of photos saved to his phone of girls in bathing suits that attended the uni 🤮
 
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