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The Mando

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Hey everyone, I had an account previously as the Mandorlandarian and I can't get the password back, so I made a new account because Sean reached out to me with an update....

Hello Tattlers,

When I last left off in August, I was preparing to open my real estate company and was pretty driven by adrenaline and anger towards Pete. Not because of any romantic feelings towards him but because I know he feels justified in his cruelty towards me. I've had many opportunities to harm Pete and I never took any of them, despite his abuse. It wasn't because of gifts or money or anything else, I just knew he would never betray me. He would scream, yell, abuse, fire staff, block my emails, cut off my cell phone, harass me, cuss me and everything else, but when he calmed down, he would stop. Essentially, the devil you know. Pete constantly told me that everything I had Was because of him, my career, my house, 'fame' (which I don't think anyone around here is remotely famous) and I laughed those things off because I know I learned real estate by myself, I know the show wasn't as good as I wanted but I had to play with the hand I was dealt and Pete isn't someone you can reason with to change their mind, you can only be patient and wait for an opening to make a move. I know I would have a career doing something and I already had my house before I met him. That said, there was always a part of me that believed it. Many times over, Pete talked about retiring and passing the whole operation over to me (this was before real estate) and as far as I was told, his will was changed to leave me his company. I told him many times that this was a terrible plan, the audience wouldn't me to run it and the staff would never see me as the boss. I hadn't earned that and forever more, I would never really accomplish anything myself, I would always be viewed as some sugar baby who weaseled his way into a fortune.

When I started with The DIS and Pete, I really wanted to try and make it work. I was given no real job or tasks and it became clear that my 'pay' was as a boyfriend and not as an employee. Earlier in this thread someone posted about Gio walking behind Pete and I remember those days all too well. It's what inspired me to come make this last post. When I started, I had a lot of debts and Pete promised me the moon. He did 'nice' things, like I was buying my mom a car, my dad had cancer and he needed to get to radiation treatments and she needed to work and they only had one. I was buying them a cheap car to get around but Pete offered a luxury car and said he would pay the bill. He wanted me to have a new car, my car was a Nissan Altima and it was perfectly fine, but he said I should be driving something better, so he talked me into upgrading on his expense. I did a lot of work getting DVC things started (I also am the reason Pete got with DVCResale Market) and I was given an Aulani contract as a 'thank you and a birthday present' - all of this among other things, that Pete offered to pay for. When I disobeyed, he stopped paying and fired me, which would leave me with all the debts. Of course, these things were put in my name with the promise that he would pay them. Ultimately, he bailed on his word, I couldn't afford the debt myself, and I couldn't allow my parents to be without a car again and I couldn't tank my own credit by defaulting on the debts. I accepted the gifts because of the relationship but I quickly realized what a mistake it was to accept them because he had me right where he wanted me. He knew I couldn't leave or speak out against him. He also, paid me through 'friends and family' on PayPal so that it would lessen my claim of 'being an employee' so that I couldn't sue for retaliation each time I was fired. (I met with several attorneys and nobody would take my case back then) - While it was frustrating, it ended up being a blessing in disguise because he also didn't want me to sign a non-compete or an NDA because it would've legitimized my claims against my employer.

I got my real estate license to help with DVC and the hope that I could eventually pay off the debts I owed and get out from under him over time. I dug my own grave and I was ok to get myself out and still try to do my best to not screw anyone over. Real Estate obviously took off and Pete and I owned that company 50/50 and he still didn't see me as his equal. John Magi is as close to an equal as Pete is going to accept. He thought that I would still be that person that followed 5 steps behind him and when I didn't, things just got even worse. With COVID hitting, Pete holed up in his house and we drifted apart because I was out doing showings and traveling and he was too afraid to do that, so he ended the relationship and promised to fulfill his debts of paying the bills he had put on me (which he didn't but I have my own money now and I just made the final payment yesterday on all of it) and after I got back with my ex and Pete found out about our wedding and wanted to sell his half of MtO to me. He wanted 1 million dollars for his half, which was a ridiculous sum of money but he was willing to hold the loan himself and just get paid back out of each sale at 0 interest. Even though the valuation was high, I agreed to this because he would eventually make 1 million over time anyway so this really changed nothing, it was like doing a rent to own essentially. As we got closer to closing the deal, he would move the goalposts. Suddenly, he wanted 1.5 million, then he wanted my homes as collateral, then he wanted set payments per month and it just grew and grew until I finally backed out and he told me 'I knew you would back out because you can't do it on your own' but I simply couldn't cut off my nose to spite my face. He felt justified in me putting up everything I owned as collateral because he truly believes everything I own, came from him. I Told him that I appreciated him opening the door for me, but I went through that door and made something with it. He responded back, that he didn't open a door for me, he built a barrel, filled it with water and fish and handed me a gun and that I could never do it without him.

I backed out of the sale and Pete offered to sell it to Drake. Drake backed out down the line as well and then he offered it to Ruben. I knew Pete wasn't actually going to sell and was just wasting peoples time and would change the deal and he told me that he created Moving To Orlando for me out of his love for me and as long as I kept it, then there was always a chance that we could be together because I kept it out of love (despite my literal engagement/marriage). So I immediately decided to sell MtO but I couldn't find a buyer, everyone wanted me to stay on board since I did most of the work and they wanted me to sign a non-compete so I would have been left without a career. Pete wrote up his offer to sell to Ruben and it included a clause that said, if Ruben sold his half of the company to me, that Ruben would owe Pete up to a 7-figure penalty for doing so, he also offered his a much lower price than me and a much better deal overall, and of course, with a non-compete. I realized it was all to specifically spite me more than anything else. Why would he care if bought Ruben out later? I had to get out, so I sold my half to my partner Razek and left, without a non-compete. So, Pete is now left with a choice. He can support MtO channel and help Ruben earn money so that he gets paid, knowing half the money ends up with my husband or he can cut MtO off with the hopes of hurting them and he won't get his money. If he doesn't get his money, the non-compete doesn't end. Personally, I hope he cuts them off. They don't realize the detriment that he is. It would be a blessing in disguise, even if they don't realize it right now.

So, at the end of August when I left off from here; I stopped and took a breath and went to therapy. Starting a company on rage, isn't the way to do things. That's what Pete does. I talked out 5 years of trauma with a therapist and I know my role in things, but I also know I did my best with the circumstances. I have officially started my real estate channel and have shows ready to go live, but I wanted to wait until after my wedding (I did have my ceremony last week in EPCOT - supposed to be Japan but the storm moved us indoors to China) and I wanted to wait until I closed this terrible part of my life. I don't know that this will be a success and while I know my success doesn't come from Pete, I do know that I will do my best and I won't be afraid that failure means it was all him. The best help I got from my therapist was to write things down. She taught me to take stress and write it out for clarity and leave it on the page and it shockingly works. So, that's why I did this. I wanted to write out what I believe happened and to close this chapter of my life. Which means I probably won't be back on here much, but based on the last 2 months of posts, Im not missing a lot, the DIS is on life support. Pete always says 'the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference' and that is very true.

I really enjoyed most of the The DIS staff and they are all having to make the best of a badly dealt hand. Pete didn't used to be this bad either, he got a lot worse the longer time went on, so it was gradual. Some have checked out mentally and some have moved on physically, but the main couple that are giving it their all, do very well for the sheer number of Pete shaped roadblocks that exist in that company.

For the people reading this, thank you! Your words and criticisms drove me to make some of the best decisions I could've made with my life. This site helped get me out of a toxic work environment, an abusive personal relationship and helped me get the help I needed to get my life back on track after this half-decade detour. And I hope someday that my show is relevant enough for my own set of haters. Thanks again
 
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The Mando

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Is there any reason you were a man of the night? You honestly seem very talented in selling homes and/or some kind of customer service protected position to do that. It’s your business surely but it always makes me wonder.
I grew up in a very poor area and I moved to Florida to try and make a better life of some kind. I got a job at Disney and it was terrible. (theres actually a video of me discussing working at Disney and Pete made me scrap it because he said It seemed like I hated Disney and was going for them too hard - ironic right?) I made $7.83 per hour but it was my dream so I did it. I lived in a terrible motel on 192 called 'Home Sweet Home' that ended up getting shut down because one of the rooms exploded from a meth lab mistake and its all I could afford because they gave cast members a discount to live there. So I lived in that hotel or if I had a late shift (extra Magic hours would go til like 2am) and then had to open the next day (be back by like 6 or 7am) I would just sleep in the cast parking lot with some of the others that had the same issue or some were just homeless and lived in their car and would get a gym membership to have a shower.

I started seeing a guy who wasn't 'out' and he was a police officer. He was drunk one night and asked me to pick him up from a bar in downtown and I did. When I got there I had 2 beers with him and drove him home. I got pulled over after dropping him off and the officer questioned me hard about 'who' I dropped off and I wouldn't say because I didn't want to out him. So they arrested me, I blew under the legal limit but they arrested me anyway. (Apparently you can be arrested at any Blood Alcohol Level, but you only lose your license if you are at or over the legal limit) I didn't lose my license or anything, but I was no call, no show for work at Disney, so that was auto firing (beyond me already having dings for being late, Im late a lot sadly). I was given 24 hours to vacate the motel because I was no longer a cast member. I was contacted by every lawyer in town saying I was in a lot of trouble and needed to prepare for court, so I hired a very expensive lawyer and maxed out my credit card doing that. Then I couldn't rent anywhere without a job, so I had to live in my car a bit there until I had some money. So it was just a long series of unfortunate events. My case was immediately thrown out in court and the officer got reprimanded (turns out he and the guy I was seeing were going for the same promotion and he wanted to 'out' him to help his own odds apparently) but that didn't get me my job back or place to live. So long story short, desperation.

I slowly started to rebuild my life and finances and I took gigs like Uber, TaskRabbit and Instacart to try and stay afloat, but the money was definitely a lot better in escorting. I paid my taxes on it so I was able to buy a house and had my proof of income. I built that business up but I didn't want to do that forever, it was just a temporary thing but then I met Pete and I spoke earlier about first meeting him and that he was very pleasant and he gave me a chance with a job, but I just quickly realized, I wasn't given a job. I was just his personal escort and I was still in the same boat I was before, just making a lot less money and now with a bunch of jewels and crap I dont even like. I was determined to try and make the DIS work in some fashion because I felt there was something good there for me but I just didn't know what exactly, just a gut feeling that I should stick with it and eventually Ill know the plan. I actually asked to start as a volunteer and I begged to not go on camera but eventually I had to step in for someone on a Tuesday show because there wasn't enough people and Pete wanted me on everything, whether I was good or not at the topic.

I actually like doing real estate but I don't like running my own business. I like having a structured day and then when Im done, to shut my brain off. The DIS and MTO (and now with having my own) it just feels like my brain is having to constantly work, even when Im not active, so business ownership isn't my strong suit but it's the cards I have right now.

When I stopped, I had to come to terms with what I had done for those years and I eventually accepted it and moved on and now I have funny stories. As far as the Pete side of things, I am not there yet with that experience and I currently feel it wasn't worth it and I wish I'd never met him. Down the road I am hoping it's just another funny story, but we will see.
 
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The Mando

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First, I really hope this works out for all parties involved better than I imagine it will. If Pete can pull it together and be decent to a living human enough to have a happy life, more power to him, though I highly doubt that is possible.

When I publicly announced my engagement, I told some of my friends that Pete would be engaged by the end of the year because there's no possible way, he will sit around and see me get married without him being in the realm of marriage too. I know that sounds crazy and narcissistic on my part, but it's really just what people here said. Pete has gotten money, some level of fame and a following, luxury world class travel, and a dream career. He's even been able to stay sober and overcome addiction but he can't seem to lock down love and friendships and it's the biggest thing that he wants out of life. He thinks he wants a 'partner' in life, someone to challenge him, someone to intrigue him and ultimately a companion to work hand in hand with him in life and business. What he really wants is someone to praise him. I don't mean that in a bad way per say, he is a big gift giver and he is someone that spoils the person he is with financially but he is a good listener if you are having a problem. If you really want to do something, he will be a big supporter, but in the drop of a hat, he will become the exact opposite.

For me, I have a lot of friends and I like to go out and be active. Pete is a stay at home kind of person and he isn't really 'into' anything. Once you are done talking about his business and his ideas for where the company can go, theres nothing else. He likes a few tv shows but not enough to talk in depth about them much, he doesn't go to the movies, he doesn't listen to music in the car so he's not really into music much, he's very into politics but if you don't agree with each of his views, he becomes volatile to say the least, so thats not something you can talk about either, even Disney isn't really an activity he can discuss because its work and going there is very limiting as well because he only goes with a specific purpose to eat at a place and leave because he doesn't 'do' things at the parks, so there aren't really any hobbies that he has so there is this 'newness' when you meet him and he's accomplished a lot of things but once you hear about that a few times, theres just nothing left. He can't seem to understand that you can't make quality relationships with people when you only want to talk about yourself. So when you date him (or even as his friend) you need to give him just as much as hes giving you or else you are a monster. Technically more because a lot of the time when I would speak, I could just see his whole face just glaze over because hes waiting for me to shut up so he can start talking again. And his phone is always on him, so the second he stops talking and it's your turn to speak, he just opens his phone up and will start looking at video analytics and such and then start yelling 'damnit' over and over until you stop talking and ask what's wrong and then he will complain about something with the show and then start text means things to Craig and you are just siting there the whole time waiting. I would tell him how rude it is, but that would just get him yelling at me, so I eventually just learned to keep my answers very short so I wouldn't get frustrated.

For example, I love Escape Rooms and I go to different escape rooms with my friends often. Pete has never done an escape room but refuses to try because he doesn't like games (mostly he doesn't like being a position to look foolish if he loses, so he doesn't play) - when I would have friends in town and they wanted to do an escape room, I knew not to invite him because he doesn't like them. Then he got upset that I didn't invite him and Im like 'but you already said you will never go to one, so why would I continue asking?' and he said 'im your partner and you're being rude to not try and include me by not inviting me' - so I started inviting him. When I did invite him, he got angry that we were doing an escape room because If I really cared, I would pick a different thing that HE could also join that he would like. So if you don't invite him, you're terrible, if you do invite him, you're terrible for doing something he wouldn't like. So, then I asked what he would like to do and he said Im his partner and should figure it out. So I planned a game night at his house and we had a good time, but then a few days later I went back to an escape room with my friends and Pete was mad all over again. 'You did what I wanted once, but now you're out doing things again that I can't participate in' - but it was that way constantly. I just couldn't win with him. He does give a lot of money and energy into relationships because he doesn't really have a lot going on but the minute you get other priorities, he just gets so hurt and you have to walk on eggshells and hide everything.

I never posted on social media when I was with him because I knew he would get mad if he saw me out doing anything. It finally got so bad that sometimes I would just leave my phone on the charger or something and he would text me but I was playing a video game or watching a movie and he would get mad, so I had to block him on the Nintendo Switch because it alerts your friends when you are playing a game and he might get upset if I was doing that instead of texting or calling him. So he will be sitting alone at home and have nothing to do and text me something like 'we need to figure out show topics sometime soon for dvc so we can film next week' and this will be like 11pm, if I didn't text back within 15-20 minutes, Id get a follow up 'well I see you're online on Nintendo and ignoring me so maybe ill just do that to you' and then im blocked for 3 days but the whole time my phone was on the charger and I just didn't even know he had texted. In his mind, he now has nothing to do and he is using his time to reach out and you are doing something else and that's unacceptable because he pays for dinner and supports you when you need it etc etc and you are a terrible person, terrible partner and then it grows into 'you're taking advantage of me', 'you're using me' and then it grows even more into cussing and name calling and then you get fired and cut off from any shared things. (Like he has a lot of available company lines with Dreams and he gets people to put their number there because it's like $10 a month instead of $100 by having your own but what you don't know is that he controls the line. You literally can't even call AT&T to do anything because they will only talk to the business owner and if you are bad, no more phone for you) - so he does all this via email (cause he blocks your phone) and you are just apologizing over and over again and he only gets more angry and explosive and then he picks apart any response that you email back and starts a new fight about 'the way' you typed your apology and 'if you were really sorry, you'd have never done it in the first place' (first place being, not responding to a text within 15 minutes). Over time, you just don't bother to apologize anymore because anything you say, will actually make it worse, then hes mad about that, but at least you didn't have to grovel. I tried to just be as amicable as I could be but it's a slow thing. At first it was just shocking and I thought I was the problem. Then I realized he had unrealistic expectations and I just couldn't reach those and I think thats true for everyone in his life. (although I did finally reach my limit when he wanted to make a policy that all MTO realtors had to carry firearms to all showings, just in case we needed to shoot our customers)

So I said all that to say, Pete cannot handle a partner. Pete does not want a partner. He wants someone with no life, no hobbies, and no backbone, to follow him around and truly devote all their time to him and put him on a pedestal. Even if he got that, I still think he would get bored and attack them because I actually tried that for a few months and I would still get screamed at because he could tell the energy was off and would get mad at me. Hell, he had a negative dream about me once and threatened to fire me over it because it was a sign.

Thoughts and Prayers for both parties. I'm just glad it's not me.

As for Walter,

Pete and Walter were together about 11 years. Pete could not buy a house at that time and Walter bought the house Pete lives in now and they moved in it together. Very soon after (6 months-1 year if I remember correctly) Pete kicked Walter out and Walter moved back to the house he already had (or possibly bought another house then) but they stayed together for many years after that - just not living together. Eventually as the business grew, Pete started doing a lot with AbD and Cruise Line so he had to travel a lot. Walter had his own career, I don't know anything about the prison guard job but I thought he did something in landscaping, regardless Pete eventually asked him to quit his job to have fully available time to travel with Pete, so he did. Pete paid both mortgages and gave Walter an allowance of some kind for personal expenses and that's what the relationship grew into. I believe the wedding was more of a 'last ditch effort' to make the relationship work. Like when a couple has a child to fix their relationship. Pete always said that Walter was just aloof and inattentive to Petes needs (outside of quitting his entire career and taking an allowance to be around for Pete). After the wedding, Pete wanted him and Walter to go to couples therapy. Walter refused many times, but Pete finally gave an ultimatum that he would leave him if he didn't, so Walter agreed. They went to couples therapy and things didn't work out. Pete and Walter split up and Pete was actually nice good about it and paid Walter $3500 per month as a sort of alimony for about a decade after since Walter had quit his job and stuff for Pete. So, I actually thought that was quite noble of him (theres a little more too it Than that, but Ill just give the man a win here)

The reason for the ultimatum was because Pete had already fallen in love with Dustin and he did want to try and salvage his thing with Walter but he didn't cheat or anything, I guess it would be an emotional affair.

Then I came along, and Pete and Walter hadn't really spoken much in the years between, just off and on and Pete sending him his check monthly. Walter contacted Pete after Pete and I got together and invited us out to dinner and explained that he had gotten married and wanted to introduce Pete to his husband. We got to the dinner and Walters husband was the couples therapist that he and Pete were seeing together, years prior.
 
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Jas5q

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I'm not one to post much on here but I have to get this thought out of my head... I was a weekly viewer for years but I'm out now (I'm also distancing myself from wdw/Disney content but still listen to the Disney Dish & love it every week).

My biggest Dis gripe is the fact they ask for Patreon support as Pete talks about going on his 35th Disney cruise. And getting the overtly designer shirts & jewelry & flaunting it... That's totally fine, but it kinda gets me he then has Ryno ask for support money. Obviously Pete's money isn't all the Dis money, but it just feels yuck.
 
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Craig might not be everyone’s cup of tea and his primary job IS behind the camera but there are still a lot of people that like his videos. I like his dry sense of humor and miss when he is not in the videos or not allowed to talk much. I also think that he is the one most likely to give an accurate review. He isn’t a concierge-only person or drowning in pixie dust.
 
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The Mando

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The agency has like 60 agents but you don’t know peoples race when applications rarely open. Pete is very aware of the lack of racial diversity on the show and would actively take anyone that wasn’t white to fulfill that part of things but there just isn’t anyone.

I think I addressed everything I know of Eric. The only additional is that I passed my real estate exam and asked him what to do, he told me he made my license active with his brokerage ‘fathom’ and I believed that. I later found out that he had not actually activated my license because he couldn’t and I would’ve have to do it myself. I never intended to go for his role or job or whatever but I can only assume he thought I was. This isn’t a bad assumption because Pete would’ve put me in ahead of him, but I got licensed in October of 2019 and Pete kept Eric on until Eric voluntarily left in March 2020. Pete had never approached me to take over anything and I wasn’t prepared to take that role so Eric had nothing to worry about. That said, I knew pete and Eric’s relationship was crumbling and many incidences were popping up of Eric not performing for clients and complaints coming in, so it was def all coming to a head eventually. Eric did meet with pete multiple times while I was there filming and it always seemed like an annoyance for Eric to have to be working with pete on the project. I feel Eric didn’t want me near the project and I understand why because of my relationship with Pete but it could’ve gone really well if he had been more open to me because I wanted to work with him.

I don’t remember the Hoop show at all. My brother worked there as an actor and asked us to stay after the show to get photos with the cast. A security guard was telling us to leave and my mom explained that her son was in the show and told us to stay seated but he insisted that we leave. I don’t remember all the details but I remember him getting upset and saying something negative towards my mom (tensions were high because my dad had passed away and this was Christmas Eve and it was the first Christmas after) and I flipped him off. The guard got angry and he called a higher security and ‘claimed’ I was trying to leave with alcohol, which I didn’t. It escalated (calmly) but higher ups got involved and then I tried to film so I had Proof and security flipped out when I tried to film the situation. It was a terrible night, Josh D’maro eventually got involved and explained that the guard already had 3 previous cases against him and he was ‘moved to a new position’ but I don’t know where. Josh and Jim Phelps has a sit down with me and Pete. We rode in a car to Hollywood studios and I mentioned that I used to work at Disney. Josh asked me how I liked it and I said it was the worst job I ever had and Pete was mortified. Josh and Jim were great about it and asked what my issues were beyond money and I said break rooms. I explained that I worked at big thunder mountain and the
‘Break room’ is literally between the 2 tracks of the ride (like where you get on the ride there’s a small room) and you can’t even sit, much less have a fridge to keep food. You have to use splash mountains or pay at the cafeteria, but it’s too far to reach on a regular break. So you just get nothing. I also explained that Ruben (moving to Orlando agent) worked (at that time) at jungle cruise and their break room is a tent outside and it gets very cold at night and there’s bugs and it not a good work environment. They did say that money was being set aside for new break rooms. The next month (I guess January 2020ish) it was publicly announced that break rooms were getting a massive makeover. So, I was happy to get to talk to someone in a position of power to actually make some kind of functional difference, even if it was already planned.
 
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ilovegrapes75

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Did anyone watch the patreon after show today?

Panda and Ryno were trying to set up a dining review reservation at the start and
Panda said "It may just be me and you. I will try to get her but it may just be us." without saying who he's referring to.
Ryno responds "I don't care if you get her or not. What do you mean try to get her? What is she doing? Isn't this her job? monday through friday? Sorry I'm not trying to be an asshole but I don't get to say no so why does this new person get to say no?"
at this point Craig interrupts and says "we've been on." as panda asks "are we on?" after he starts to say "you would think..."
Ryno says "oh are we on the channel right now?!" "fantastic. now everyone can see what an asshole I really am." "it's true though, I'm gonna say it again. I'm not a liar."
THEN they chat a little bit and Panda says "let's now text Erika speak amongst yourself please."
Teresa says "just tell her, don't ask"
Panda says "no I'm not her boss. Erika likes these things. usually"
Ryno says "Okay...i'm not gonna say it again" and laughs
and then then new commentator says "50's prime time that'll be fun huh?" and Ryno says sarcastically "maybe! It doesn't sound like it right now. I'm difficult, I hate it break it to people." hahahah so it's pretty clear, no one likes Erika.

update: now ryno is saying he doesn't like dining with erika because he can't order the vegan options anymore. You can tell by his face and his body language that he's just trying to cover his ass.
 
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The Mando

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He is correct, I am emotionally immature and he should definitely stay away from me.

Also I rarely laugh out loud but Stay Out of the Damn Rehab made me audibly laugh
 
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ilovegrapes75

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There's definitely something going on behind the scenes, more than just Craig being on paternity leave. Ryno used to do a news segment from home, that's gone. No real in park videos anymore. Everyone is phoning it in, pete is missing a lot. No John and Kevin for weeks. Maybe it's just end of the year fatigue, maybe not. It's sad to see something I really enjoyed just turn into something so lackluster.
 
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erikaelvis

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I thought Kevin was a bit spicy this week toward Pete
I thought so too and I am here for it. I know Kevin can be a little annoying but I LOVE how he give no effs in regards to Pete. At one point Pete said wow that discussion went on longer than I thought and Kevin said that wasnt a discussion that was a monolauge. it made me laugh.
 
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Cocobean9

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Anyone who's read Sean's posts on this thread knows he's not emotionally immature. It seems like he's put in a lot of work into becoming a better person and improve his physical and emotional health. Pete would be wise to do some self reflection and recognize mistakes and character flaws and try to be and do better for himself and his friends and family
 
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The Mando

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Kevin is not the only person who can sell AbD, it’s just when you go to the site it’s his email attached OR you can email ‘reservations’ which essentially ends up in the same place. Also, on the site it’s the only product that gives you your final price before you submit your inquiry and you also have to submit your credit card to have your stuff go through. So the product is just really set on the front end that it’s a situation where you would physically have to seek out John or reservations and directly ask to work with someone. We also had a note on the backend that said ‘if an inquiry comes through for AbD, leave this for Kevin to pull’ and then its color coded when it comes in so it’s very clear that it’s AbD and not to touch it.
So it’s nearly impossible to break in that.

My biggest issue was with general pay. DisneyWorld/Land packages pay at 50% to the agent and 50% to the company. Cruise line pays up to 20% of the commission to the agent. At the start of each calendar year, you reset back to $0 sold for that year. Once you sell $500,000 in travel for the year and they go on their vacation, then you start getting the cap listed above. Until you reach that amount, it’s a lower commission. Cruise Line is always the same, for every million dollars in cruise you go up a percent, I believe I remember at the start you get like 4% of the commission and it goes up to like 16% or 20% once you’ve sold in the 10s of millions. So the reset really only applies to your World/Land packages.

The issue is with who gets paid - if you submit a request for whatever product, you go into a queue that the agents can see your name, what product you want to purchase (world, DCL etc) and then the dates you want to travel. Let’s say Mary Smith submits an inquiry for Disney World, I pull it and I book her a trip based on her parameters. We go back and forth and we settle on her trip and she pays and we’re good. Turns out, Mary Smith booked with Dreams back in 2007 with a different agent named Rhonda. Mary never booked again, has no relationship with Rhonda and maybe even had a bad experience and didn’t come back. Rhonda gets the commission. So I spent all my time booking her whole trip and I won’t see a dime of the money, however I do get the ‘credit’ towards meeting my $500,000 cap for the year. So Rhonda makes the money and I get the glory. Let’s say Mary Smith LOVED me and comes back and directly requests me next year and she wants to go again or do anything else with Dreams. I get to book her all over again and Rhonda gets the commission.
 
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exdisfan

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A bombshell to start off today’s show: Pete is off to “proactive” rehab later this month.

Obviously nothing but the best for Pete during this time.
 
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“We go on hiatus after this episode until January” - Pete

Like, haven’t you been on hiatus since freaking Nov? 🤦‍♀️😂
 
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wtc50e

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What’s with people trying to discover who people are when we get such good information?
 
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ilovegrapes75

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Craig might not be everyone’s cup of tea and his primary job IS behind the camera but there are still a lot of people that like his videos. I like his dry sense of humor and miss when he is not in the videos or not allowed to talk much. I also think that he is the one most likely to give an accurate review. He isn’t a concierge-only person or drowning in pixie dust.
I like Craig and I like Ryno, I do get the criticism of both of them. I'm a similar age though and we have similar humor so I always enjoy when they both get to let loose. It is very clear they're both burnt out and in need of some sort of change.
 
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cavamom

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From the patreon show, the wedding is in September so they can do Honolulu to Sydney cruise as their honeymoon. He wants the wedding at Portifino Bay. Gio says plan whatever you like. 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
 
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The Mando

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I don't even know what to say about that story Sean. If it were an episode of a sitcom I wouldn't believe it. I have to admit the more I've learned about the entire situation there with Pete and so much of the staff the less I can enjoy even the rare good shows.

I have to wonder how John remains in business with him. I imagine it would be hard to unwind the entire enterprise now but he seems so normal and not only stayed in business with a crazy narcissist for 20+ years but managed to date him and get out apparently unscathed.

Is there any reason Corey and/or Julie aren't on the show as often? Is it just life is too busy for them with the kids or have they grown tired of the drama. I wish at least Corey was on more often. The last show would have been the perfect lineup with Corey also there.
John is a nice guy. I think he just has his thing over with Dreams. Pete was essentially drunk for most of it rising and he makes a good living off of it and doesn’t have to deal with Pete. He’s fine with pete getting his way 90% of the time so the few times he’s does buck Pete, he usually wins out which is usually about company money and spending.

I definitely wasn't as good to John/Kevin as I could've been or should've been. Pete wanted me to be an agent because most of the agents dont live in Florida and those that do, dont like being on camera so he wanted someone that the audience already knew a bit and that would be an on camera presence for the travel agency, but it really forced Johns hand and put Pete in a lot closer awareness of things at Dreams than John would've probably liked. Nothing 'bad' was happening, but you don't want Pete putting a spotlight on your part of a company because he is going to demand a lot of changes with no knowledge of why things are the way they are. When things were happening, I went back to Pete and not John and then Pete would get involved and it would cause problems. That wasn't fair to John, but as Pete would ask me about Dreams and how I was doing, I would vent frustrations. There are things I do still feel justified about, number 1 being about which agent is paid based on the bookings, but I was wrong a lot too. I pushed for changes that I genuinely thought would be good but I was also entering a 20 year old company with no experience and 'Norma Rae-ing' myself around the place with no sense of the whole story and that obviously didn't make me very liked, which I did deserve, I went about the changes in a bad way. So, when I would make a sensible suggestion it was met with a hard no. For example, when someone requests info for WDW, the clients have to enter each travelers name and age, Disney only needs the age for knowing which ticket age bracket to do. With DCL, Disney requires the names and DOB for everyone and its is required at the time of booking. However, Dreams form only included the names and asked people to just list birthdates for everyone in the notes below. People would often not do that or would put like 65,63,47,49,7,6,6,5,5 and Im like, ok I don't know who each of those are for and it needs to be the actual date, not the number. This could easily be solved on the form by requiring people to choose a date off calendars and thats an easy plug-in to do. But it made the agents have to call and track down the person who requested and often by the time we got a response back again, they got annoyed and went to Disney directly, or the room they wanted was gone or especially if it was a release day, we would just have to do TBA for everything and make stuff up and then call Disney to change it (couldn't be done online) and we all know how awful it is to call Disney. So, things like this were easy fixes but Id pretty much burned my bridges with John very early on and I also was getting Pete up in his business, so that was on me. I also had issues with going to the AbD form and it says to email Kevin directly, so it felt like nepotism kinda stuff because Kevin would essentially get all the AbDs as 'direct requests' because the emails went to him. However, I didn't realize that back when AbD was really struggling early on, Kevin was the agent who took on that work load years ago to really build that product with Disney and had really earned his email as being 'the email' but I entered the middle of the story and was unfair to him because I didn't know the hard work he had invested, I just saw that he was seemingly getting better treatment than the other agents because he was with John. So, I was unknowingly immature and handled everything badly.

I think Julie is just busy and Corey just got burnt out. I think he has a lot on his plate and being on the show was just another hurdle along with having to do like all the backend stuff with the sites and Corey does a lot with the content team as well. So, this was just another thing on top of all that.
 
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