Taina Licciardo-Toivola - Ten children all dressed in white and an invisible husband

[merzygtlm]

yeh but there are much nicer takeaways that aren't just cheap poor quality meat

Can’t help what you crave we also don’t know how long it is since they had that or other junk food. They are notorious for not sharing everything.
One time when I was crying my partner panicked and just went and got me Burger King coz he didn’t know what to do. Those foods are bad for us but comforting, so if she’s had a really bad situation she was probably wanting that over something else.
But either way, unless they start eating it every day I don’t think it’s worth judging them on. There are bigger issues with this family than this, like the situation with Cleopatra, the seclusion away from others, homeschooling etc.

 

[Rachel164]

She’s a meat eating, plant based, non vegan crazy, who struggles with the truth in her religious world of bibles. She is married to a cultist who threatened to rip the hearts out of border control officials if they’d kept his daughter a day longer in quarantine than is the law. She talks like a baby, allows her son and daughter (now that she has rejoined the clan from God knows where), to bring up the smaller children. No, she insists on it. She still breast feeds the youngest who is a demanding thug (clearly not introduced to the Bible yet) and terrifies the bejesus out of her arachnophobe daughter with stories of spiders crawling over her face as she sleeps. She’s as boring as bat sh*t and her 8 minute videos reflect that. Anything else? The woman is barking mad.

 

[PlumBlossom]

What an absolute bleeping psychotic pair of weirdos...I feel bad for all those beautiful kids.

 

[lolarose1935]

I followed Cleo's husband on Instagram and he started messaging me and then sent me all these collages of Cleo and him, some showed him with all the fam and what looks like them in Vegas getting married!!! This is madness

 

[opal73]

Whoa! So is it confirmed then that Taina sold her daughter to this man to get hitched to him to then buy land in Australia/get the facelift she wanted?

Was Cleo in on it? Otherwise why would she be in Australia?

 

[Coffeeandcroissant]

I followed Cleo's husband on Instagram and he started messaging me and then sent me all these collages of Cleo and him, some showed him with all the fam and what looks like them in Vegas getting married!!! This is madness

Ok this is crazy.
So the theory is she was married off happily but I dont believe the facelift, the land story maybe but at this point- not to side with Taina but the guy is definitely lying to get Cleo back.
Cleo was clearly happy to be back so I guess he was not what she expected and now he tries to blackmail them as he is obsessed with Cleo.
But in the end Taina is to blame as she arranged/forced this "lovely" guy for her..she is 20 but lived such a sheltered life that she's more like 15 and very naive so just followed controlling Tainas "advice".

Whoa! So is it confirmed then that Taina sold her daughter to this man to get hitched to him to then buy land in Australia/get the facelift she wanted?

Was Cleo in on it? Otherwise why would she be in Australia?

I don't think it confirms all that, but what's 100% that she got married, the family arranged it as they knew the guy and then she must have left him and he is desperate to get her back.

What a creepy guy anyways..just like Paul.
He is constantly touching Cleo on butt and boobs on photos..I am not convinced Cleo is comfortable with all that. I bet he just sees her as a sexual object

 

[merzygtlm]

I followed Cleo's husband on Instagram and he started messaging me and then sent me all these collages of Cleo and him, some showed him with all the fam and what looks like them in Vegas getting married!!! This is madness

It’s super creepy that he’s sharing those photos with random followers.

 

[Coffeeandcroissant]

This is like a 'mild' form of revenge porn..he is trying to blackmail Cleopatra. I sincerely hope he hasn't got more intimate videos..for Cleo's sake. She is innocent.

 

[murphy]

It sounds as if innocent little Cleopatra has been deported from the US for committing a 'sham' marriage, described thus;

In United States immigration law, marriage not made in good faith and for purposes of immigration fraud is a felony, subject to a penalty of US$250,000 fine and five-year prison sentence on the citizen, and deportation of the foreigner. (wikipedia)

What the purpose of the marriage was is anyone's guess but those phone calls sound legit. It also explains the penalty of 5 years in jail and the fine.

Maybe they are really in love and everything will work out or maybe, as I've long suspected, tania and her bloke are devious and dishonest and will do anything to scam a living out of gullible 'christians'.

 

[opal73]

It sounds as if innocent little Cleopatra has been deported from the US for committing a 'sham' marriage, described thus;

In United States immigration law, marriage not made in good faith and for purposes of immigration fraud is a felony, subject to a penalty of US$250,000 fine and five-year prison sentence on the citizen, and deportation of the foreigner. (wikipedia)

What the purpose of the marriage was is anyone's guess but those phone calls sound legit. It also explains the penalty of 5 years in jail and the fine.

Maybe they are really in love and everything will work out or maybe, as I've long suspected, tania and her bloke are devious and dishonest and will do anything to scam a living out of gullible 'christians'.

Maybe he was trying to get her to get her green card?

I doubt they are really in love, he seems obsessed from the pictures though. The question remains, did they meet through Cleo or did Tania have something to do with it.

 

[Coffeeandcroissant]

It has been said before somewhere that the guy knows the family, Paul loves him like his son...Taina and him were following each other on insta etc..
So it is not hard to imagine Cleo has been pressured into this marriage.

 

[Fishwife]

Was that Leonardo in the photo as well? I think Jenna said in her June you tube he had been travelling. I feel sorry for the boys as well. It was obviously Tania and Paul set it up and perhaps his mother.

 

[OliviaPope]

It has been said before somewhere that the guy knows the family, Paul loves him like his son...Taina and him were following each other on insta etc..
So it is not hard to imagine Cleo has been pressured into this marriage.

Loves him likes his son!! What you on. Paul is so disinterested in his own brood that can’t be hard. What kind of father lets is teen daughter fly to the other side of the world and marry a man she’s never met.

 

[Rachel164]

There needs to be intervention in this family. It has now reached a lose : lose situation but the children are at risk. This makes me furious. Adults placing themselves above the law by creating a cult like status to protect them and then quoting The Bible as a means to a) justify what they do as The Bible is so ambiguous and b) make people believe that they are just good Christians. These are dark people inflicting psychological harm on their offspring. Authorities need to step in and do a welfare check and more.

 

[Coffeeandcroissant]

Loves him likes his son!! What you on. Paul is so disinterested in his own brood that can’t be hard. What kind of father lets is teen daughter fly to the other side of the world and marry a man she’s never met.

I am in no way defending them ..these are the boys words I read it somewhere. I agree Paul is a crap and Taina is a controlling narcissistic idiot.

 

[raspberrpicker]

This is like a 'mild' form of revenge porn..he is trying to blackmail Cleopatra. I sincerely hope he hasn't got more intimate videos..for Cleo's sake. She is innocent.

He does. Immediately reported him afterwords, and blocked the picture since it was absolutely disgusting. No loving husband would post this.

 

[opal73]

There needs to be intervention in this family. It has now reached a lose : lose situation but the children are at risk. This makes me furious. Adults placing themselves above the law by creating a cult like status to protect them and then quoting The Bible as a means to a) justify what they do as The Bible is so ambiguous and b) make people believe that they are just good Christians. These are dark people inflicting psychological harm on their offspring. Authorities need to step in and do a welfare check and more.

I would be surprised if they were not visited by anyone already, I know people tried to report her in Finland to the authorities but I don't think anything came of it. I think that was partially why they moved to Aus to be honest, to take some of the eyes off them. They appear to be even more isolated in Aus.

 

[murphy]

So it looks as if Taina's channel was set up partly to showcase her nubile young daughter and entice a rich man to marry her. I thought something was 'off' when she took her to get a tongue stud when she was 16.

I agree Cleo looks uncomfortable when she's being grabbed by the bloke but to me its the discomfort of one who realises just how far they must go to 'get the goods' and she's not a natural 'floozy'.

But the whole family must, in my opinion, be somewhat devious. The channel was very carefully set up to attract maximum attention, with plenty of pre-recorded vlogs and very professionally styled images. The channel blew up in a matter of weeks and many were convinced she was buying followers, the growth was just too huge to be organic. I don't think Taina did all that on her own so the older kids must have been complicit in this scam to present themselves as sweet and innocent to the world with those creepy fixed smiles and helping her with editing and ideas etc.

I get ' The Family' vibes from this lot (Australian so-called 'Christian' woman who set up an abusive cult and dressed the kids all the same, there's a documentary somewhere online)

Whatever's going on it's certainly more interesting than the usual dross Taina serves up.

 

[emm]

He does. Immediately reported him afterwords, and blocked the picture since it was absolutely disgusting. No loving husband would post this.

I'm so confused, so she doesn;t like him? I thought someone here said the dad thought of him as a son? and who is his other child with?

I would be surprised if they were not visited by anyone already, I know people tried to report her in Finland to the authorities but I don't think anything came of it. I think that was partially why they moved to Aus to be honest, to take some of the eyes off them. They appear to be even more isolated in Aus.

I agree that is why they moved, there have been lots of cults established in australia over time (I have known people brought up in them) and I think it is similar to why they seem to be more common in the US than, say, the UK - there is simply just SO much more space that communities are more able to isolate themselves

So it looks as if Taina's channel was set up partly to showcase her nubile young daughter and entice a rich man to marry her. I thought something was 'off' when she took her to get a tongue stud when she was 16.

I agree Cleo looks uncomfortable when she's being grabbed by the bloke but to me its the discomfort of one who realises just how far they must go to 'get the goods' and she's not a natural 'floozy'.

But the whole family must, in my opinion, be somewhat devious. The channel was very carefully set up to attract maximum attention, with plenty of pre-recorded vlogs and very professionally styled images. The channel blew up in a matter of weeks and many were convinced she was buying followers, the growth was just too huge to be organic. I don't think Taina did all that on her own so the older kids must have been complicit in this scam to present themselves as sweet and innocent to the world with those creepy fixed smiles and helping her with editing and ideas etc.

I get ' The Family' vibes from this lot (Australian so-called 'Christian' woman who set up an abusive cult and dressed the kids all the same, there's a documentary somewhere online)

Whatever's going on it's certainly more interesting than the usual dross Taina serves up.

omg yes I have seen this documentary! All of the children were blonde as well iirc?

 

[Rachel164]

I'm so confused, so she doesn;t like him? I thought someone here said the dad thought of him as a son? and who is his other child with?


I agree that is why they moved, there have been lots of cults established in australia over time (I have known people brought up in them) and I think it is similar to why they seem to be more common in the US than, say, the UK - there is simply just SO much more space that communities are more able to isolate themselves


omg yes I have seen this documentary! All of the children were blonde as well iirc?

I’m not convinced the kids initially knew the purpose of the channel. Clearly they do know now at least to a degree.
Has anyone come across an address or area where they might be staying? I have a feeling that this is going to blow up soon.