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Can’t remember if I mentioned it before but my friend who was cabin crew for BA long haul, first class said Princess Michael was a horror. Crew weren’t allowed to look at her directly and any talking was done through her assistant.
Friend confirmed Cilla was an arse and Kylie wonderful (I do remember mentioning that before).
She also ended up on a night out with Duran Duran at a nightclub in Hong Kong and said they were very generous with the champagne.
Friend confirmed Cilla was an arse and Kylie wonderful (I do remember mentioning that before).
She also ended up on a night out with Duran Duran at a nightclub in Hong Kong and said they were very generous with the champagne.
I’ve been lurking for weeks but now I’ve registered. God, I love this thread. Thanks everyone for brightening up lockdown!
@haveuseenmyfriendbert Apologies, I meant the Clinton Affair. I didn’t realise Jemima Khan was producing a dramatisation as well.
Princess Michael of Kent is another one with an interesting history. Her husband, Prince Michael, is apparently, Liz’s favourite cousin, and so the royals have had to put up with her without upsetting Prince Michael. For instance, does anyone remember when Liz said of Princess Michael “Oh she’s far grander than us” (or words similar !!). And what about when she wore the “Blackamoor brooch” (Very controversial!!). Also wasn’t her father supposed to be a Nazi SS Officer?). And does anyone remember a few years ago, when Princess Michael was romantically linked to a much younger, wealthy Russian guy? And also, her husband was also rumoured to have had a long standing affair with a lady who had some kind of dog walking business? And also, the very creepy way that Prince Michael seems to model his “look” on his late cousin, the Russian Czar, who was famously murdered along with his wife, and their children by the Bolsheviks in the Russian Revolution. Princess Michael, is rumoured to have had quite a lot of plastic surgery, including several facelifts, but that’s not surprising, as both of them are incredibly vain individuals.!!
She was also dining out in New York and at the next table were African Americans celebrating something. She was not happy with the noise so shouted over 'remember the colonies' or something else massively racist at them. She seems like a Nazi tbh.
Can’t say I’m suprised by her behaviour, as she has long been accused of being a racist, hence the wearing of the Blackamoor Brooch. Didn’t they sell their country mansion a few years ago, and banked the money before moving to Kensington Palace for a peppercorn rent? And then they were “forced” to move out to make way for Harry & Meghan?? Not sure where they are living now, or if they have separated (but not divorced) and have separate houses now? And didn’t Freddy Windsor marry Claudia Winkleman’s sister? Jeez, imagine having Princess Michael as your MIL?!!! Poor girl !!
Speaking of Peaches Geldof (from last thread), she was in another reality show about a magazine. Seems like a very pretentious bunch:
I was intrigued to read about Mandy Smith on thread #15. I have some tea on the Smith sisters, Nicola (the elder, best known for going out with Teddy Sheringham for a bit) and Mandy. I’m from their era, and I’m from the north west, where they live now.
First Nicola. She relocated to Manchester, following Teddy Sheringham, in the nineties when he played for Man U. She lived in a flat with him in Cheshire. Angling for marriage, of course: longing to be a footballer’s wife when that first became a thing. He wasn’t putting a ring on it, though. I heard that she fancied herself as one of the queen bees of the players’ lounge: hanging around with Posh and Mark Bosnich’s then wife and being spiteful to any women they saw as lesser WAGs or a threat. Including Jordan: apparently that story about them singing “who let the dogs out” when she came into the players’ lounge was true, and Nicola Smith later said in an interview, with some satisfaction, that Jordan ‘kept wandering around the room trying to find someone who would talk to her’ when she was going out with Dwight Yorke and going to watch games. Imagine how horrible that was, whilst the bitchy WAGs sneered at her! I’m no fan of KP but come on!
There’s no evidence of Nicola Smith actually having a job during this period. In interviews after Teddy Sheringham dumped her, she reminisces about having ‘girlie lunches’ with Posh and Sarah Bosnich. Like the witches of Eastwick. She also reminisced about being bored whilst Teddy was training etc, being so bored in fact that she even did her own cleaning (!!!) because there was nothing else for her to do, despite having a cleaning lady. I assume that ‘getting a job’ didn’t feature in her deliberations.
She also complained bitterly because Teddy insisted on spending time with his son from his first marriage.
So Teddy Sheringham bins her eventually - can’t think why - and Nicola is first to beat a path to the door of the magazines. Saying that the split was her idea, obviously, and that she’d been unhappy anyway and was missing the London party scene.
Surprisingly, despite missing the London party scene, she settles in Manchester. I’d love to know why. Next thing you know, she’s set up a ’lifestyle magazine’ to be distributed around Cheshire and the posher bits of Manchester. Which I assume was an excuse to flit around air kissing, attending events and getting free stuff at bars and restaurants? Anyway, still not what you’d call a proper job.
The magazine fails after a few years, in 2010 I think, but not because it wasn’t very good (it wasn’t) or because print was being superseded by the internet. No. According to Nicola, the magazine was “a victim of its own success”. How so? Well, apparently, it was doing SO well that the rival publications (which? I can only think of Cheshire Life that ploughs the same rather dull furrow, and the proper magazines aren’t going to be taking advertising from beauty salons in Altrincham, so I don’t believe this bit) reduced their rate card for advertising, and stole away business from Nicola’s magazine. The unfairness! Nicola whines that she has lost £120k of her own money. That’s what being a business owner involves, Nicola. Not sure where she earned £120k...maybe it was the Hello money for the post-breakup interview?
A white knight (sort of) appears in the shape of a North west magazine publishing business which buys the title and appoints Nicola ‘managing director’, although there’s a separate senior management team who actually make the decisions and do the proper work, so not sure what her duties were. Nicola’s former business partner, female, leaves the business. However, mere months later Nicola gives an interview to the Manchester Evening News announcing that she’s going to do something worthwhile instead of just ‘running’ the magazine. So basically she’s had the boot from the mag but tries to dress it up as her selflessly giving up frivolity to do good.
Now she’s going to give her all to a charity, the five stars appeal, which recruited five ‘stars’ (I use the term loosely) each year as ambassadors and held glitzy fundraisers in Manchester to raise funds for scanners and other hospital equipment. What could have attracted Nicola to such a role? Surely not the glitzy events rife with rich men?
Nicola contrives to get Mandy appointed as a trustee too. Glitzy fundraisers and virtue signalling ahoy!
Shortly after giving up the magazine work (or it giving her up) Nicola starts extracting fees from the Five Stars appeal. Now she’s a paid fundraiser, you see. She’s not an employee of the charity; it has no employees. No, she’s a consultant.
it later emerges that the charity spent more on fundraising, including its events and Nicola’s fees, than it raised. The charity was getting 3p from every pound donated. Suspicious? Manchester Children’s Hospital disassociated itself from the charity and told the Five Stars appeal to remove the hospital’s name from its literature. There was an enquiry. The charity doesn’t seem to exist any more. Ther don’t seem to have been any prosecutions, but it’s very dodgy. The trustees were, at best, asleep at the wheel.
I think that the Smith sisters don’t really get the concept of having a proper job. Who knows what they are doing now?
First Nicola. She relocated to Manchester, following Teddy Sheringham, in the nineties when he played for Man U. She lived in a flat with him in Cheshire. Angling for marriage, of course: longing to be a footballer’s wife when that first became a thing. He wasn’t putting a ring on it, though. I heard that she fancied herself as one of the queen bees of the players’ lounge: hanging around with Posh and Mark Bosnich’s then wife and being spiteful to any women they saw as lesser WAGs or a threat. Including Jordan: apparently that story about them singing “who let the dogs out” when she came into the players’ lounge was true, and Nicola Smith later said in an interview, with some satisfaction, that Jordan ‘kept wandering around the room trying to find someone who would talk to her’ when she was going out with Dwight Yorke and going to watch games. Imagine how horrible that was, whilst the bitchy WAGs sneered at her! I’m no fan of KP but come on!
There’s no evidence of Nicola Smith actually having a job during this period. In interviews after Teddy Sheringham dumped her, she reminisces about having ‘girlie lunches’ with Posh and Sarah Bosnich. Like the witches of Eastwick. She also reminisced about being bored whilst Teddy was training etc, being so bored in fact that she even did her own cleaning (!!!) because there was nothing else for her to do, despite having a cleaning lady. I assume that ‘getting a job’ didn’t feature in her deliberations.
She also complained bitterly because Teddy insisted on spending time with his son from his first marriage.
So Teddy Sheringham bins her eventually - can’t think why - and Nicola is first to beat a path to the door of the magazines. Saying that the split was her idea, obviously, and that she’d been unhappy anyway and was missing the London party scene.
Surprisingly, despite missing the London party scene, she settles in Manchester. I’d love to know why. Next thing you know, she’s set up a ’lifestyle magazine’ to be distributed around Cheshire and the posher bits of Manchester. Which I assume was an excuse to flit around air kissing, attending events and getting free stuff at bars and restaurants? Anyway, still not what you’d call a proper job.
The magazine fails after a few years, in 2010 I think, but not because it wasn’t very good (it wasn’t) or because print was being superseded by the internet. No. According to Nicola, the magazine was “a victim of its own success”. How so? Well, apparently, it was doing SO well that the rival publications (which? I can only think of Cheshire Life that ploughs the same rather dull furrow, and the proper magazines aren’t going to be taking advertising from beauty salons in Altrincham, so I don’t believe this bit) reduced their rate card for advertising, and stole away business from Nicola’s magazine. The unfairness! Nicola whines that she has lost £120k of her own money. That’s what being a business owner involves, Nicola. Not sure where she earned £120k...maybe it was the Hello money for the post-breakup interview?
A white knight (sort of) appears in the shape of a North west magazine publishing business which buys the title and appoints Nicola ‘managing director’, although there’s a separate senior management team who actually make the decisions and do the proper work, so not sure what her duties were. Nicola’s former business partner, female, leaves the business. However, mere months later Nicola gives an interview to the Manchester Evening News announcing that she’s going to do something worthwhile instead of just ‘running’ the magazine. So basically she’s had the boot from the mag but tries to dress it up as her selflessly giving up frivolity to do good.
Now she’s going to give her all to a charity, the five stars appeal, which recruited five ‘stars’ (I use the term loosely) each year as ambassadors and held glitzy fundraisers in Manchester to raise funds for scanners and other hospital equipment. What could have attracted Nicola to such a role? Surely not the glitzy events rife with rich men?
Nicola contrives to get Mandy appointed as a trustee too. Glitzy fundraisers and virtue signalling ahoy!
Shortly after giving up the magazine work (or it giving her up) Nicola starts extracting fees from the Five Stars appeal. Now she’s a paid fundraiser, you see. She’s not an employee of the charity; it has no employees. No, she’s a consultant.
it later emerges that the charity spent more on fundraising, including its events and Nicola’s fees, than it raised. The charity was getting 3p from every pound donated. Suspicious? Manchester Children’s Hospital disassociated itself from the charity and told the Five Stars appeal to remove the hospital’s name from its literature. There was an enquiry. The charity doesn’t seem to exist any more. Ther don’t seem to have been any prosecutions, but it’s very dodgy. The trustees were, at best, asleep at the wheel.
I think that the Smith sisters don’t really get the concept of having a proper job. Who knows what they are doing now?
I think she always thought of herself as “edgy” and was determined to be as controversial as Paula. The difference being that Paula (whatever you thought of her) did have the gift of the gab, and the musicians she interviewed, she already knew through being the wife of Bob Geldof. The problem with Peaches as an interviewer, were that she came across as rude, condescending, and it felt like whoever she interviewed, almost had to arse lick her because of who her parents were. There was only one Paula Yates, and Peaches simply couldn’t complete on that level.
Thanks for sharing your tea!! Yes, I was the poster who mentioned that both Mandy and Nicola were living in Manchester, and that there was some scandal over this “charity” that they set up, but were then found to have taken the money to fund their lifestyles. I know that Mandy eventually had a son (although I don’t think she’s with the dad anymore) and the last I heard of her was that she had “found” religion, and had completely changed her life. The whole Mandy and Bill Wyman affair was so disgusting and disturbing. She was only 13 when she slept with him, and it seems like her mother was totally on board. Also, while the whole sordid Mandy/Wyman stuff was going on, Mandy’s mother decided to get together with Bill Wymans SON - and at one point they were actually engaged
I haven’t seen or heard anything about the Smith girls in a long time, and whether their mother is still with Steven (Bill Wyman’s son) I really don’t know. Also, I remember reading about Nicola being the ringleader in the “Who let the dogs out” drama, and Victoria Beckham was more than happy to join in because Jordan accused Victoria of having a fling with Dane Bowers over the record they made, and apparently Jordan was pregnant with Dane’s baby, and when she lost the baby - she blamed the stress on Victoria flirting with Dane in front of her.
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Yes Sophie Winkleman married Freddie Windsor. I remember Princess Michael stating they were very compatible because one went to Cambridge and the other went to Oxford. There was no mention of Sophie Winkleman’s acting career.
Or that Claudia was attending the wedding.
Or that Big Suze had been pimped out for £560!Yes Sophie Winkleman married Freddie Windsor. I remember Princess Michael stating they were very compatible because one went to Cambridge and the other went to Oxford. There was no mention of Sophie Winkleman’s acting career.
I've mentioned it in a previous thread, but I used to be cabin crew before and I met Kylie. Completely agree with your friend. Kylie was absolutely lovely.
A friend of mine who worked for a separate airline met her too and said the same thing.
I have more sympathy with Mandy because she was groomed. Not sure why Bill Wyman isn’t the subject of revulsion.
i can remember the ’wild child’ era. Mandy Smith regularly appeared in Mizz and similar magazines in the eighties, after the Wyman story broke. I find it odd, looking back, that the magazines felt it was appropriate to celebrate a girl who’d been seduced by a much older man, had had her childhood robbed from her and had become famous as a consequence. But there she was, telling us what she did over Christmas and what she wore out clubbing in London; she was still 16 at this point, I think.
What is weird is, when the antics of the ‘wild child’ girls were reported in the tabloids, it was all, ooh, aren’t they naughty the little minxes? As if the stories were sexy, not disturbing. It was a very different time. I can recall one headline, perhaps relating to Amanda de Cadenet or Emma Ridley, along the lines of, I was dragged crying from the bed of a 32 year old man when I was 15 (where we were told that she’d gone willingly, and it was the police or her parents removing her). As if that would be served up for titillation now!
Mind you, that was in an era when Sam Fox, Suzanne Mizzi and Maria Whittaker were photographed for page 3 with cuddly toys and being described as 16 year old sizzlers etc. Christ!
i can remember the ’wild child’ era. Mandy Smith regularly appeared in Mizz and similar magazines in the eighties, after the Wyman story broke. I find it odd, looking back, that the magazines felt it was appropriate to celebrate a girl who’d been seduced by a much older man, had had her childhood robbed from her and had become famous as a consequence. But there she was, telling us what she did over Christmas and what she wore out clubbing in London; she was still 16 at this point, I think.
What is weird is, when the antics of the ‘wild child’ girls were reported in the tabloids, it was all, ooh, aren’t they naughty the little minxes? As if the stories were sexy, not disturbing. It was a very different time. I can recall one headline, perhaps relating to Amanda de Cadenet or Emma Ridley, along the lines of, I was dragged crying from the bed of a 32 year old man when I was 15 (where we were told that she’d gone willingly, and it was the police or her parents removing her). As if that would be served up for titillation now!
Mind you, that was in an era when Sam Fox, Suzanne Mizzi and Maria Whittaker were photographed for page 3 with cuddly toys and being described as 16 year old sizzlers etc. Christ!
I remember the 'wild child' era and all those underage girls going out with rock stars and attending premieres and flashy parties. They were a similar age to me, and my wild child lifestyle consisted of hanging around outside the off-license with my friends, trying to persuade older people to buy us a bottle of Woodpecker cider to share, followed by a raunchy night at the youth club disco. But at least my teenage dalliances were with boys of a similar age and not men in their 30's. I also remember the countdown to Sam Fox being 16, in the Sun - the countdown to when she could get her tits out.
And I will never understand why Bill Wyman wasn't prosecuted.
And I will never understand why Bill Wyman wasn't prosecuted.
I remember the never ending copy in News of the Screws about Mandy and Wyman and, at the time, no one turned a hair at that type of thing. Young girls were viewed as “juicy little cherries, ripe for the picking“ by the red tops and hideous old perverts like Wyman. 
Laughing (in recognition) at the Woodpecker cider!
There is a common factor for the ‘wild children’, and it is their mothers. Mandy Smith’s mother appears to have been quite at ease with Mandy and Nicola going to clubs when underage, trying to catch the eye of rich men. I can’t imagine that they developed that strategy themselves: as Red Magnolia points out, most girls of that age would have been happy with some cider and copping off with a boy from school down the youth club disco at 13 (or 15, in Nicola’s case). I suspect that dear old mum encouraged them and told them where to go and how to act.
i suspect that she also taught her daughters that the most important thing in life was looking glam and finding a wealthy man to pay for things. They absorbed that message well.
i can recall Emma Ridley’s mother posing for a ‘saucy’ photo shoot for one of the tabloids in the eighties, after Emma had been in the news repeatedly. It was really embarrassing. Apparently she did it because the reporter said, “it will be sensational”. Eh? Where was Emma Ridley’s mother when her daughter was drinking, drugging and dancing on tables in nightclubs in sexy underwear aged 15? Perhaps she also encouraged her daughter’s behaviour.
I feel sorry for the daughters, in a way. Imagine your life’s focus being getting a man to pay for things for you, and believing that your appearance is all you are worth.
There is a common factor for the ‘wild children’, and it is their mothers. Mandy Smith’s mother appears to have been quite at ease with Mandy and Nicola going to clubs when underage, trying to catch the eye of rich men. I can’t imagine that they developed that strategy themselves: as Red Magnolia points out, most girls of that age would have been happy with some cider and copping off with a boy from school down the youth club disco at 13 (or 15, in Nicola’s case). I suspect that dear old mum encouraged them and told them where to go and how to act.
i suspect that she also taught her daughters that the most important thing in life was looking glam and finding a wealthy man to pay for things. They absorbed that message well.
i can recall Emma Ridley’s mother posing for a ‘saucy’ photo shoot for one of the tabloids in the eighties, after Emma had been in the news repeatedly. It was really embarrassing. Apparently she did it because the reporter said, “it will be sensational”. Eh? Where was Emma Ridley’s mother when her daughter was drinking, drugging and dancing on tables in nightclubs in sexy underwear aged 15? Perhaps she also encouraged her daughter’s behaviour.
I feel sorry for the daughters, in a way. Imagine your life’s focus being getting a man to pay for things for you, and believing that your appearance is all you are worth.
@Gagiteebo going through my past posts with a sick emoji....
Do you remember the wedding??!!! And then they were both interviewed by Terry Wogan, who was basically congratulating Bill Wyman for pulling a girl like Mandy. Can you imagine that happening now?! Actually, Mandy wrote a book about her life with Wyman, I can’t remember the name, and it came out in 1995 (I think) so it might not still be in print, but it’s well worth hunting down, if I can find it, I will post back.I remember the never ending copy in News of the Screws about Mandy and Wyman and, at the time, no one turned a hair at that type of thing. Young girls were viewed as “juicy little cherries, ripe for the picking“ by the red tops and hideous old perverts like Wyman.
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