Just checked and it's on BBC iPlayer
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I found it rather boring. Wouldāve been a lot more interesting and engaging if it was kept to one episode.
It was insane. Intriguing watch, horrendous case. I do remember the News reports at the time, but did not click it was the same case.
Great viewing.. awful story x
I'm interested in UK true crime, not so much US cases.
A guilty pleasure of mine is watching old episodes of Crimewatch UK on Youtube and looking up the cases to see if they've now been solved. Also the reconstructions are super creepy.
A guilty pleasure of mine is watching old episodes of Crimewatch UK on Youtube and looking up the cases to see if they've now been solved. Also the reconstructions are super creepy.
I can absolutely recommend " The Last Podcast on the Left". My favourite True crime conspiracy podcast hosted for the last 10 years by 3 friends, Marcus, Ben and henry. They tell the stories respectfully but also make fun and belittle the killers so its hilariously funny. They really delve into the psychology of why?
Really it has to be
Really it has to be " West Cork" , the podcast from Audible. Truly gripping with so many twists. The case of Sophie Toscan du Plantier , a beautiful young french woman who was killed with seemingly no motive at her home in rural Cork in the late 90s. Suspicion is strongly on Ian Bailey, an English journalist living locally. Honestly please listen to this. You can get a free monthly trial with Audible in order to listen.
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I keep checking for any updates on the Delphi murders. It was odd that the sketch of the man on the bridge is so different from the original. I think maybe the police know who it is or have an idea and canāt prove it. Such a sad case.
Theres a fairly active sub over on reddit for this case. Might be of interest to you!
Oh thanks Iāll go have a look!!
Itās so so sad, I canāt believe itās nearly 3 years and no further forward. Theyāve never released how they were murdered either
I've just finished watching "I love you, now die: The Commonwealth Vs Michelle Carter". Incredibly sad story, but so interesting. Highly recommend this one. It's a 2 parter available on Amazon.
I love this thread!! Thank you for everyone else's recommendations, I'm slowly working my way through them all.
I love this thread!! Thank you for everyone else's recommendations, I'm slowly working my way through them all.
Just started watching this on youtube Not murder but attempted they are only 11/12
Iām obsessed with the Oj Simpson case. Before I started reading the books that have been written by the prosecutors, defence, friends of the couple, journalists etc I was convinced he did it and did it alone. I then started reading and investigating it. However after I had so many questions - things that did not make sense or add up when the prosecutors laid out their case with how and why it happened. Then I started to watch the whole trial that is on you tube. Read the autopsies online. I have also read Interviews from old acquaintances & enemies from OJ past etc and yes he was jealous and abusive and yes Iām convinced he was on the scene of the murder but did he actually commit the murder I aināt 100% convinced. There was two type of knife wounds that was afflicted on the bodyās and the only singular knife that can do that is a commando knife. Did he own one - who knows. Why was the glove behind Oj estate wet and moist 8 hours after he left for Chicago ( within the summer month of June ) how did a 47 year old at the time able to murder two strong able human beings at the same time without getting a mark or bruise on himself when Ron Goldman the second victim had countless defence wounds and bruised knuckles. Why was there a knife on the counter in a immaculate, tidy kitchen and was sitting there out of place within Nicole Simpson home but yet the court says she was ambushed when walking out front of the house. Why if threatened did she walk out of the house without the knife and why was her ice cream tub downstairs on the bannister near the garage basement??. I believe she received a phone call and that was threatening and scared her. Her daughter said mum was crying and arguing with her best friend? Oj is not her best friend. Heās her Ex husband. Itās questions like this that to me makes this case not as straight forward as itās been made out to be. Check out davewagner.com - Iāve spent many of a hour on it and itās mind blowing. I am currently reading Christopher singular book- solving the Oj Simpson murder mystery. This book is slightly far fetched but it does give answers to many things that donāt add up in this case.
My opinion is there was others on the scene of the murder. Oj was one of them. Some one cleaned up as much as he could after Oj left for Chicago. The security alarm was set by the houseguest yet when the police notified in the the early hours the following morning - on entering the property the alarm was disabled. Why ????. Because someone went in afterwards to clean up. They tried to make a murder case against a guilty Oj stronger by certain methods. I have read so many books- which I have then cross referenced conflicting statements. Iāve read so many online official documents ( court testimonies) and watched the whole trial. I have also read the book written by the prosecutor in the civil trial.
I am studying forensic psychology and out of all the cases I have looked over including the Jon benet Ramsey one. Itās the Oj one that as me transfixed.
My opinion is there was others on the scene of the murder. Oj was one of them. Some one cleaned up as much as he could after Oj left for Chicago. The security alarm was set by the houseguest yet when the police notified in the the early hours the following morning - on entering the property the alarm was disabled. Why ????. Because someone went in afterwards to clean up. They tried to make a murder case against a guilty Oj stronger by certain methods. I have read so many books- which I have then cross referenced conflicting statements. Iāve read so many online official documents ( court testimonies) and watched the whole trial. I have also read the book written by the prosecutor in the civil trial.
I am studying forensic psychology and out of all the cases I have looked over including the Jon benet Ramsey one. Itās the Oj one that as me transfixed.
I thought OJ wrote a book of how he wouldāve hypothetically have done it, if he did it. Which was supposed to be a confession really. Snd then the parents (think Nicoles) got the rights to the book. Iām sure itās called āIf I did itā
I think it was just a money making exercise. Heās that narcissistic that his thought process would of been ā well Iām being accused anyway so may as well make some money as everyone in this case was making millions from books and interviews. His oldest daughter came up with the idea and they created a limited company with her siblings as owners and the proceeds of the money went into their account. Itās Ron Goldmanās father and sister who had the rights of the book. Nicoleās parents were always dead against it being published. It was scraped due to public outcry but in a court hearing the judge awarded the rights to the book to the Goldmanās and forced the publication. He is Guilty - no doubt about it. He was on the scene as his car was seen leaving the scene. However there was other witnesses whoās statement to the police never saw the light of day that contradicted the prosecutions theory.
He is Guilty - I am just not convinced it was carried out like the prosecution presented it to the public. There are too many questions left unanswered and if it did carry carry out like they said it did then OJ murdered Ron and Nicole. Was seen in the Bronco at 10.45 at the st Vicente cross section near bundy( witness statement. Got home. Alan Park the limoscene driver saw him enter the house at 10.55 from the side of the house all proved by phone call timings made within the limo to his boss. Yet he was in the limo by 11.05 all dressed and chatty. Apologising for sleeping in. He was at the scene no doubt about it and there was blood found in the house and in his Bronco car. However if he had been the one responsible for actually committing the murder - the man would of been covered head to toe. The scene was horrific and he would of needed more than 5 minutes in the house to of got sorted before the limo. He did have blood on him and in his car and he was at the scene but Iām convinced he werenāt alone. Actually in the āif I did it ā book his first line when explaining the murders was if I did it then I could not of done it alone.
There are so many stories online of drug connections, hire to kill plots etc. This Case is not as straight forward as what the public are lead to believe
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i also followed the case of Amber Peat religiously as in am from the same area, so gutted that no justice was brought to her. Everyone has forgotten about her now.
I really used to think that too. Until all the dna they had found came out and didnāt match anyone in the family... listen to āwho murdered jonbenetā podcast. They do a great job going over the case!
Did you see the CBS documentary on this. The Trace Dna came from her knickers and had genetic markers from more than one person and DNA experts stated this could of been from the manufacturing process. The Grand jury voted to charge John and Patsy Ramsey of helping a third person cover up the murder. There was only Four people in the house. One was dead.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....arents-of-child-abuse-resulting-in-death/amp/
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They found 2 different sets of dna on her. And yeah thereās about 2% chance the dna on her underwear came from manufacturing..
There has NEVER been a case of rape/molestation were a defense was able to prove dna on a victims clothing was from manufacturing, ever. The chance is too minuscule.
They grand jury was held in the late 99 or 00ā
In the new podcast out they speak to 3 jurors and they ALL said Iād theyd known of other facts they never would have passed the bill. The grand jury has only the prosecution stating their āfactsā no rebuttal and no evidence given by defense. Two of the original detectives quit the Boulder PD because they were being muzzled and pushed to only look at the Ramseys
And lastly her brother and father sued CBS for their program and were awarded full apologies and compensated millions for libel. Thatās program with their āexpertsā was a farce.
Itās not clear cut whatsoever
You make really good points- However whatās your thoughts on the kidnapping letter that they were convinced Patsy Ramsey wrote. I personally think there was no outside person in the house that night. However I love hearing other people views and then I have a good old think about it afterwards lol. Iām obsessed with unsolved cold cases.
Which detectives ? Steve Thomas and James kolar are still to this day convinced of their guilt. Itās the other detective bloke Lou smit that supported the Ramseyās throughout
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