MOD & FOD #16 Slymon is being penetrated in the ears, whilst Gimmie is hiding from her peers

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SharkAttack

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This is gone beyond parody now. So Clemmie is being blamed for all non-white maternal deaths now, wtf?!
Agree. There are several reasons why black mothers have a higher mortality rate, such as higher preponderance to pre-eclampsia and lower take up of pre-natal care, so to imply it's down to negligence by (presumably white) midwives seems quite a stretch. All my children were (safely) delivered by black midwives, fwiw.
 

SharkAttack

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Can’t quote, as new thread but @Londonmumoffour thank you lol, my username initially was AWFUL happymummy 🤢 I made myself feel sick 😂😂 so got the admin to change my name 😂
I might have to do that. I did my username in a rush without having even seen what others called themselves. Dreadful.

I believe this is what the kids today call a "glow up" 😂
*googles 'glow up'*
 

Ekeanor

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Agree. There are several reasons why black mothers have a higher mortality rate, such as higher preponderance to pre-eclampsia and lower take up of pre-natal care, so to imply it's down to negligence by (presumably white) midwives seems quite a stretch. All my children were (safely) delivered by black midwives, fwiw.
The research that highlights black women are 5 times more likely to die in childbirth, makes this assertion after for controlling for confounding factors such as the above health complications. Given this, structural and implicit racism are a contributing factor to black maternal deaths. Therefore midwifes ( not just white ones) and the healthcare systems around black women are sadly a part of this issue.
 

Squirrelfriend

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Agree. There are several reasons why black mothers have a higher mortality rate, such as higher preponderance to pre-eclampsia and lower take up of pre-natal care, so to imply it's down to negligence by (presumably white) midwives seems quite a stretch. All my children were (safely) delivered by black midwives, fwiw.
Exactly this I’m concerned Clemmie is suddenly the poster child of causing maternal black deaths , there’s loads of health reasons black women have higher incident of maternal morbidity and mortality and neglect is way down that list .
 
I think neglect may come into it, it's a really really complicated issue to unpick and we certainly won't be the ones to do it! But unconscious bias and institutional racism are significant factors, when you control for physiological reasons. It's a horribly uncomfortable truth, that our NHS may be racist, but we mustn't shy away from that.

Having said that, Clemmie as an individual does not have the weight of that on her shoulders alone! It's ridiculous where this is going now!
 

Aboveallelse

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London is very multi cultural. There are a lot of black, ethic minority and EU midwives. I experienced care from all different races during my 4 pregnancies. Mostly received good standard care. And the times I experienced rudeness (post birth) I put down to overstretched and tired staff. Whatever the reasons are, Clemmie is being made into a scapegoat. It's really quite ridiculous.
 
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