Lucy Letby Case #43

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SnoopySnooper86 said:
Well hopefully all the newcomers see we’re not as awful & toxic as everyone makes out…
Give yourselves a “talc” & continue to get stuck in 😂
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Took me ages get in this group … after I got banned from fb 🙈🤣. I know everything about u lot. Lol. Xx I’ve been court and seen the witch in action. I’m free to go again tomor … I don’t know how to do a post yet tho … but if some1 tells me what to do I will do a write up when I get home. A friend of mine went yesterday … she says the judge did a blinder basically discrediting BM professional medical opinion 🤣 (bout as medically qualified as me) she thinks 100% guilty but like a lot struggles with WTF was her motive !!! 😡🤮 xx

am more than sure we will find this out (not understand it) just find it out when more things are revealed and folk start selling their stories on that evil piece of tit!!! X
 
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Copacapybara

Copacapybara

Beigerac said:
I did have a lot of sympathy for


Thank you in advance for the hideous nightmares I’m going to be having.
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My family so far have managed to evade the icy clutches of Les Dennis but I’m keeping a close eye on C5 scheduling just in case…🤨
 
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Futtrit

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11:02am

The judge says shift leader and designated nurse for Child D in room 1 on June 21-22, was Caroline Oakley.

Letby was designated nurse for two other babies in room 1.

Child D was on 'nasal CPAP in air', with 'satisfactory' gases.

The readings for 7.30pm-12.30am were all normal and she was 'happy' with Child D, who was "breathing beautifully in air".

Aspirates found had 'minimal importance to them' as Child D was not being fed at this time.

Caroline Oakley said she assumed she began an infusion at 1.25am, being the designated nurse, but the writing on the infusion note was not hers.

One of the nurses on duty was aware Caroline Oakley had been on her break, and checked Child D, who was fine.

While she was at her computer, she was alerted to alarms, and found the monitor was showing Child D was desaturating at 1.30am.

She recalled Letby was there.

She noted Child D had a rash on her trunk and arms, and was 'not a normal rash' - like a 'mosaic', like 'vessels of blood meeting with each other'.

She had not seen anything like it before, she said.

She said 'her trunk and legs went a mottling colour, and it was odd'.

She discussed it with Dr Andrew Brunton.

Child D settled and discolouration 'seemed to disappear and dissipate'.

Caroline Oakley said the rash was 'different to mottling' and it was 'an unusual rash'.

She "had an episode but responded very quickly".

Another senior nurse said she had a limited memory of events. she remembered Child D being stiff and having a rash on her trunk, which was an 'odd, unusual rash'.
 
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DellaC

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Lucyxxxx said:
I beg your pardon, I've already named them Osama Bin Laden. 🥀🥀🥀 #BEKIND.
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Phillip Osama Binladen.
Or Pob for short.
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And if you're too young to remember Pob then you've missed out in an absolute gem!
 
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KatieMorag

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Sorry this was yesterday but it's just twigged with me that it's quite key. He's basically highlighting and rubbishing all BM's stupid comments about studies of air embolisms being old or in pigs isn't he?

He said he had "not seen this much gas" in any baby, other than in the case of Child D. He said it was 'consistent with air administered' to him, but 'not diagnostic' of it.

In cross-examination, he said he found no unexplained cases, and accepted this was an observational study, not a controlled study - the judge says for obvious reasons, the latter could not be carried out.
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DoseofReality

pharmamum said:
I also have a PhD in research and it made me so angry when the defence barrister tried to say that there’s only one published study on air embolisms in babies- how does he not get that we wouldn’t do studies like this that would inflict pain on babies (of course there’s not going to be much literature)! I think they are lucky to even have that one bit of literature.
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Exactly. After this case is done there will oddly be more papers though I would imagine, based on the findings of the babies in this case. Hopefully they will never have to be brought up in court in the future though.
 
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KatieMorag

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Child D's mother recalled an event when she arrived on the unit and Letby was 'hovering round [Child D], not doing much, holding a clipboard', and she asked if everything was ok. Letby replied everything was "fine".

The mother added: "She just stuck around".

The mother said Letby was told to go away, or words to that effect.
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duck off, Lucy.
 
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Aberscot

We are nearly at the end and what’s surprised me is she hasn’t really had any medical issues on the stand ( apart from once did they not stop early) I was expecting some fainting or extreme cryiing, but no only tears when Drnoname appeared.
When she’s found guilty will she appear for sentencing though ….
 
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Futtrit

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11:11am

The judge says at 3am, there was a second event.

Caroline Oakley said Child D was crying and desaturating, and the skin was discoloured, but less than before.

Dr Brunton recalled Child was agitated and upset, and thought it was something to do with the face mask.

He saw skin discolouration, but this was 'not as obvious' as before.

A prescribed saline bolus was signed for Child D at 3.20am by Caroline Oakley and Lucy Letby.

Nurse Oakley said they were happy with Child D, and she would be provided with expressed breast milk.

She said if Child D was unstable, she would not have changed Child D's nappy.
Observations were 'fine' by 3.30am.

At 3.45am, Child D's monitor was alarming.

Caroline Oakley found Child D had stopped breathing and was apnoeic.

Dr Emily Thomas heard the call for help.

She asked a nurse to put out a crash call for Dr Brunton.

He ran when he was crash called.

Full resuscitation was carried out on Child D with the assistance of doctors and nurses, including Lucy Letby.

There were 'secretions+++' from the nose and mouth.

The parents were informed and went to the unit.

After 28 minutes of resuscitation attempts, it was decided to stop.

At 4.50am, Dr Newby had a discussion with Child D's parents on the 'sudden collapse'. She agreed babies can suddenly collapse, but was "surprised" Child D did.

She "did not appear to be a baby in extremis".

A nurse had a conversation with Lucy Letby about the drugs administered during resuscitation.

Letby asked the nurse how she knew the doses to give.

The nurse replied she knew them from her years of experience, and recommended Letby learn them as well.
 
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Copacapybara

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Apropos of nothing, I was thinking of the ‘confession’ note where she said that nobody would ever know what happened and why.

At first it sounded like inane self-pity but having heard the duckaround of her cross-examination I wondered if it was more of a smug threat, or statement of intent. As if she was reassuring herself that she did it so well that nobody would ever find out.

Although I do wonder about the veiled references to her childhood.
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SnoopySnooper86 said:
Well lar de dar miss sophisticated
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We used to swap all our crisps in the playground so everyone had one of each, and then jump up and down on the mix of abominations to make a sort of gourmet melange. 🤣
 
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LittleMy

LittleMy

blueyfan3684 said:
Sorry, how the f is that reasonable doubt?🙃🤣 with that logic, murderers would be free to roam 😡

If Lucifer kills and attempts to kill babies and no one is around to witness it, did it really happen?🥴🙄
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What a bunch of tadgers 😂
I’m on that group and I swear it takes so much effort to bite my tongue sometimes.
 
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