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Tbf Matt I do appreciate your honesty but I do think all you personal development coaches are all scam. And only doing it for the money ??congratulations!
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Just donāt know how you can improve people as you fell for the twins bullshit
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I would be very interested in how much you charge? And how much you payed for the twins services?
Thank you. And thatās fair enough.
As I already said - youāre of course entitled to have your own opinions and judgements on people and also the self development coaching industry as a whole. I respect that. And Iām fully aware that other people have similar views to you too! Youāre certainly not alone.
However, despite your personal opinions, a scam is where somebody is dishonest and doesnāt deliver what they promised. And Iām simply not doing that.
Yes - what I do might not be everybodyās cup of tea. And you may feel itās a load of rubbish and just for money.
Iām not here to change your opinion if thatās what you want to believe.
But what counts to me is that the people who do pay me for my services DO value it. They donāt think itās a load of rubbish or a scam and they feel they are getting what they paid for.
All my clients have provided me with some really lovely feedback and are all happy with the services theyāve received.
But if you have concerns or want to talk to me about my business then please do come chat. Iāve nothing to hide.
Just calling somebody a scammer and getting them to ābiteā on a public forum with no experience of actually working with me or any evidence to backup your claims (aside from my association with the twins and your personal opinions) is easy to do, but doesnāt really achieve anything other than a cheap dig that isnāt really nice to see.
My current prices?
My membership is Ā£19 per month (after a 14 day free trial), my 121 clarity calls are Ā£75 and my monthly 121 coaching packages are Ā£450 for the whole month. Iām very much at the cheap end of the scale by the industry standard fees. For example, the Tony Robbins course I completed suggested that new coaches could charge in the region of $200 for a clarity call.
Again - youāre more than welcome to have the opinion that my prices are a rip off (as somebody whoās never even worked with me and thinks the whole industry is a rip off). But the people who pay me donāt!
And surely thatās got to be what matters when deciding if something is a scam?
So please, live and let live. My content is not pushing what I do onto anyone. I donāt use āscare tacticsā to get people to sign up and I donāt claim to be somebody that Iām not living in a rented Manor House or leasing cars. Thatās not me. It never was.
People can make their own decisions on whether they want to work with me or not. And itās completely their choice.
And when somebody does work with me, thereās ZERO pressure or fear tactics to make them feel like theyāre worthless or going to fail if they donāt pay me for more!!
Yes I was admit I was VERY gullible back in 2019 listening to the twins podcast for inspiration.
Yes when Llwellyn first DMād me saying Iām a āsuperstarā and he knows he can massively help me and that I need to pay Ā£1500 for 4 weeks mentoringā¦I jumped at the chance.
Because he was great at making you feel special and lucky to have the opportunity. Heās a master manipulator and a narcissist.
And very quickly I found myself in a position where I was made to feel embarrassed if I was to quit and stop paying him.
I donāt know the exact amount I paid in total. But it was in the region of Ā£50k over 18 months.
But hereās the important thing I take away from it allā¦
In many ways, working with the twins was valuable because it truly opened my eyes to the man (and coach) I NEVER want to be.
What started out as being somebody who was in awe of their confidence, energy, passion, enthusiasm and seemingly āperfect lifeā with a loving marriage, beautiful kids, nice home and great businessā¦ eventually became a HUGE lesson that only means Iām more aware than ever before.
It helped show me just how fake and dangerous social media, bodybuilding and coaching truly CAN be and has only made me want to go in the complete opposite direction.
I hope that answers you and brings a little more understanding perhapsā¦ and thanks for reading!
Ask about them in Coventry and you will be laughed at if you are scared of them. They have had their pants pulled down by so many guys and put in their places. No wonder Rhys Davies is so good at pulling them down by himself now lol. Llewellyn Davies calling himself a gangster is the equivalent of a chicken calling themselves a tiger.
To be fair to Matt, he's been on here and taken a fair bit of flak, for mistakes he's fully admitted to.
And he's answered all the questions he's been asked of as well.
Although I don't get the whole personal development thing, I have to respect his guts and honesty.
Howās your two buddies Alec Witts and Pretesh Parmar doing these days?
50 K Wow !!
That's a harsh lesson
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I'm not taking the piss or anything and I don't know you from a bar of soap, but presume you are offering a similar sort of service to the twins.
I'm just picturing the scene in a dragons den style format.....
So you invest 50k on a month by month basis (18 months) for top level coaching from the best in the business and these 2 shady geezers promise you untold riches at the end of it.
You then become qualified to offer coaching to other individuals MLM etc.
Pal if I was you I would keep that 50k 'investment' very quiet because you are literally the 3rd last person in the world that I would be taking business or life advice off.....Rhys and Llewy coming joint 1st.
I'm sorry it's not something I'm willing to invest in..... I'm out
That's a harsh lesson
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I'm not taking the piss or anything and I don't know you from a bar of soap, but presume you are offering a similar sort of service to the twins.
I'm just picturing the scene in a dragons den style format.....
So you invest 50k on a month by month basis (18 months) for top level coaching from the best in the business and these 2 shady geezers promise you untold riches at the end of it.
You then become qualified to offer coaching to other individuals MLM etc.
Pal if I was you I would keep that 50k 'investment' very quiet because you are literally the 3rd last person in the world that I would be taking business or life advice off.....Rhys and Llewy coming joint 1st.
I'm sorry it's not something I'm willing to invest in..... I'm out
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Sure I totally hear you. And I of course understand your POV.
That 18 month period is just one tiny (albeit important) chapter of my life. And yes a harsh lesson.
But I donāt feel the need to keep anything about it quiet or a secret eitherā¦
Iām at peace with it. Itās part of my journey. And I think the biggest mistakes are often the best lessons that only make us better people because of them.
I certainly feel that way regarding this tit show I experienced.
If people donāt want to work with me, invest in me or are āoutā because of 1 part of my past, then thatās completely fine. I respect their decision and I also get it. Again, they are entitled to make up their own informed judgement about me and what I do.
But Iāve no desire to hide parts of my truth just to look good or attract more clients/ Investors.
It is what it is. Regardless of different peoples perspective on what it is.
The reality is I made a bad judgement call. Paid a high price for it. Learnt valuable lessons from it. Then re-evaluated, made changes. And moved forwards.
My core business model is now not about me coaching people. I actually stopped coaching altogether for 6 months and today itās only a small element of what I do.
My main focus today is on running my entertainment business and also building my membership where people have the opportunity to connect with a variety of different people, gain knowledge and advice and build a strong network that can help them.
And Iām really proud of it. The members in there are buzzing about what we do each weekā¦ and Iām really happy with the ethics etcā¦
The bottom line for me is that the paying members are more than happy with what I do! And thatās what matters to me!
But againā¦ I do get your point. And I understand itās not for everyone too.
And if Iām totally totally honestā¦ as painful as itās been at times seeing people write horrible things on here about me and my lifeā¦Iām actually grateful (to some extent) to the people calling me out on this forum.
Seeing that has enabled me to pause, dig deep, do some serious self reflection and make some real positive changes with where I was heading. So, thank youā¦ I guess! You helped me see the truth and then have the courage to make some big changes.
That said, Iād perhaps have preferred it if youād have just messaged me or called me personally rather than public hanging behind fake profilesā¦ butā¦I get it.
Fair enough Matt
You dodged my question. You three were lined up to be the three faces that would be the future of personal development in the UK and lead the UK to a whole new level we were toldā¦
Obviously that wasn't his words, or maybe they were, but were made to say this from the constant lovebombing by dumber and dumbest
To be fair to @MattHall he has spoke out several times about our INFAMOUS scammers. And whilst I have spoken out about Matt for scams I truly hope he has seen the light and learnt from those scamming Bās ā¦he has recently spoke about the wrongs of taking steroids which both James Burtt and Dean Blackstock commented and liked!
However Matt, I am a very sceptical person who, whilst you are earning your dollar on Tāinternet, I do believe you Should focus your true talent on your tribute careerā¦i am personally qualified in counselling and am horrified in the standards of online Adviceā¦but at the end of the day these 2 gimps are a disgrace and anyone with a moral compass wouldnāt go anywhere near either of them! And youā¦.@mattHall need to just double check your morals!
However Matt, I am a very sceptical person who, whilst you are earning your dollar on Tāinternet, I do believe you Should focus your true talent on your tribute careerā¦i am personally qualified in counselling and am horrified in the standards of online Adviceā¦but at the end of the day these 2 gimps are a disgrace and anyone with a moral compass wouldnāt go anywhere near either of them! And youā¦.@mattHall need to just double check your morals!
Aaaanyway - back to the subjects of the thread proper...
According to Instagram, Carly Thornton has evidently borrowed Llewy's (ageing) Bentley for a Sunday drive. "Why not?" she asks, as she clambers in.
Oooooh, here's a few potential reasons for you...
It hasn't had an MOT. FOR A YEAR!
It failed SPECTACULARLY in October when he tried to get it MOT'd. EIGHT MONTHS LATE!
Now, maybe the super-successful Llewy immediately attended to the THREE Dangerous Defects (the "Do not drive until repaired" bit below), the TWO major defects and the THREE advisories below. But then, he hasn't got it MOT'd since, so, maybeeeee not.
I mean, it's only the brakes that were completely fucked back in October, so nothing to worry about when you let your Mrs drive it, eh?!
Obvs a few uninformed / gullible types on Carly's Insta think it's all "whoa, you go girl", "if you earn it, you flaunt it", "
" etc etc.
The reality (for those uninformed that might be reading) is that it's a very old car that he can't afford to run. The truly successful don't run shitbuckets like this, trying to look rich when they can't stump up the Ā£Ā£Ā£ to maintain it.
Pound Shop Tai Lopez's, the pair of them!
According to Instagram, Carly Thornton has evidently borrowed Llewy's (ageing) Bentley for a Sunday drive. "Why not?" she asks, as she clambers in.
Oooooh, here's a few potential reasons for you...
It hasn't had an MOT. FOR A YEAR!
It failed SPECTACULARLY in October when he tried to get it MOT'd. EIGHT MONTHS LATE!
Now, maybe the super-successful Llewy immediately attended to the THREE Dangerous Defects (the "Do not drive until repaired" bit below), the TWO major defects and the THREE advisories below. But then, he hasn't got it MOT'd since, so, maybeeeee not.
I mean, it's only the brakes that were completely fucked back in October, so nothing to worry about when you let your Mrs drive it, eh?!
Obvs a few uninformed / gullible types on Carly's Insta think it's all "whoa, you go girl", "if you earn it, you flaunt it", "
" etc etc.The reality (for those uninformed that might be reading) is that it's a very old car that he can't afford to run. The truly successful don't run shitbuckets like this, trying to look rich when they can't stump up the Ā£Ā£Ā£ to maintain it.
Pound Shop Tai Lopez's, the pair of them!
That needs reporting to Essex Police ASAP if its being driven.
In fact, duck the "keep it on tattle" rule, I'm going to do it myself. I couldn't forgive myself if one of those idiots took out an innocent person from driving that deathtrap.
In fact, duck the "keep it on tattle" rule, I'm going to do it myself. I couldn't forgive myself if one of those idiots took out an innocent person from driving that deathtrap.
Llewelyn Daviesā court case began Friday by the look of it!
Looks like the gangster of personal development, the pioneer of social media, the champion bodybuilder, the chocolate demi god, above all else the lemon Llewellyn Davies could be getting in some serious trouble soon. So much for him dominating the bodybuilding scene, getting the IFBB pro card, making his boxing in ring comeback and going to university to start a BA honours degree in Psychology.
How did you get on ??
What makes me laugh is in that car, the lemon Llewellyn Davies got his ex wife, Georgia Archerās, her son Kadyn and their daughterās Indieās names embroidered on the seats. Iām sure that made Mr Carl Thornton feel good. Haha.Aaaanyway - back to the subjects of the thread proper...
According to Instagram, Carly Thornton has evidently borrowed Llewy's (ageing) Bentley for a Sunday drive. "Why not?" she asks, as she clambers in.
Oooooh, here's a few potential reasons for you...
It hasn't had an MOT. FOR A YEAR!
It failed SPECTACULARLY in October when he tried to get it MOT'd. EIGHT MONTHS LATE!
Now, maybe the super-successful Llewy immediately attended to the THREE Dangerous Defects (the "Do not drive until repaired" bit below), the TWO major defects and the THREE advisories below. But then, he hasn't got it MOT'd since, so, maybeeeee not.
I mean, it's only the brakes that were completely fucked back in October, so nothing to worry about when you let your Mrs drive it, eh?!
Obvs a few uninformed / gullible types on Carly's Insta think it's all "whoa, you go girl", "if you earn it, you flaunt it", "
The reality (for those uninformed that might be reading) is that it's a very old car that he can't afford to run. The truly successful don't run shitbuckets like this, trying to look rich when they can't stump up the Ā£Ā£Ā£ to maintain it.
Pound Shop Tai Lopez's, the pair of them!
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In that video you can clearly hear the disc breaks rubbing
17 years old & not worth aAaaanyway - back to the subjects of the thread proper...
According to Instagram, Carly Thornton has evidently borrowed Llewy's (ageing) Bentley for a Sunday drive. "Why not?" she asks, as she clambers in.
Oooooh, here's a few potential reasons for you...
It hasn't had an MOT. FOR A YEAR!
It failed SPECTACULARLY in October when he tried to get it MOT'd. EIGHT MONTHS LATE!
Now, maybe the super-successful Llewy immediately attended to the THREE Dangerous Defects (the "Do not drive until repaired" bit below), the TWO major defects and the THREE advisories below. But then, he hasn't got it MOT'd since, so, maybeeeee not.
I mean, it's only the brakes that were completely fucked back in October, so nothing to worry about when you let your Mrs drive it, eh?!
Obvs a few uninformed / gullible types on Carly's Insta think it's all "whoa, you go girl", "if you earn it, you flaunt it", "
The reality (for those uninformed that might be reading) is that it's a very old car that he can't afford to run. The truly successful don't run shitbuckets like this, trying to look rich when they can't stump up the Ā£Ā£Ā£ to maintain it.
Pound Shop Tai Lopez's, the pair of them!
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