Katherine Ryan #2 Katherine was feminist to the core, married pyro BK and became an obedient bore

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Just read the Russell Brand article - only one comedian (Daniel Sloss) would go on record and confirm the rumours. Even though it's word for word what KR has said she's not mentioned. Shame
 
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Stopped listening to her podcast a while ago but I do remember her mentioning this on there. I’m genuinely surprised that so many “fans” are commenting like this when she didn’t really do anything (that im aware of) that could’ve helped the victims/other potential victims other than create more interest in herself…

Theroux then asked: 'You were in the papers recently for saying there was a 'predator' that you worked with, that you had informed the employers that he was a predator?'

Ms Ryan clarified that she hadn't told his employers, but that 'I informed him to his face that he was a predator.'

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Stopped listening to her podcast a while ago but I do remember her mentioning this on there. I’m genuinely surprised that so many “fans” are commenting like this when she didn’t really do anything (that im aware of) that could’ve helped the victims/other potential victims other than create more interest in herself…

Theroux then asked: 'You were in the papers recently for saying there was a 'predator' that you worked with, that you had informed the employers that he was a predator?'

Ms Ryan clarified that she hadn't told his employers, but that 'I informed him to his face that he was a predator.'

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It’s the same as Daniel Sloss getting praise. For what? Speaking in vague generalities? I don’t buy the “well she may have been sued”. There’s clearly sufficient evidence if the Times and Channel 4 have gone after him. Katherine did the bare minimum. Told HIM he was a predator? Cool, well done.
 
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It’s the same as Daniel Sloss getting praise. For what? Speaking in vague generalities? I don’t buy the “well she may have been sued”. There’s clearly sufficient evidence if the Times and Channel 4 have gone after him. Katherine did the bare minimum. Told HIM he was a predator? Cool, well done.
Yeah I just don’t get it at all. This show/investigation has apparently been in the works for a couple of years which tells you even more about the people who only started alluding to there being a “well known predator in comedy that had been known about for years” in the last year or so. Absolute wimps the lot of them.
 
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Yeah I just don’t get it at all. This show/investigation has apparently been in the works for a couple of years which tells you even more about the people who only started alluding to there being a “well known predator in comedy that had been known about for years” in the last year or so. Absolute wimps the lot of them.
It’s the same as all the chat on the Secret Celeb Gossip thread about well known TV stars being outed for crimes ONCE they’re dead. Either speak up or shut up.
 
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It’s the same as Daniel Sloss getting praise. For what? Speaking in vague generalities? I don’t buy the “well she may have been sued”. There’s clearly sufficient evidence if the Times and Channel 4 have gone after him. Katherine did the bare minimum. Told HIM he was a predator? Cool, well done.
What was Katherine supposed to do exactly? She couldn’t go to the police on the behalves of the women who were assaulted.

The legal system is fucked when it comes to sexual crimes.

Hardly any women report, and can you blame them? Look at the discourse on social media. Full of men and women alike criticising victims for being whores, desperate for attention and/or money. Adamant that without “proof” the perp is innocent. I swear there could even be concrete proof (like video) and there would still be swathes of people denying it. Who can blame women who have been raped/assaulted for being too scared to speak to police, have their lives and reputations dragged through the mud, only to be told the police can’t take the case any further due to lack of evidence?

And of the women who do go to the police, look at the statistics. Virtually none lead to a conviction. Rape is basically legal in this country.
 
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What was Katherine supposed to do exactly? She couldn’t go to the police on the behalves of the women who were assaulted.

The legal system is fucked when it comes to sexual crimes.

Hardly any women report, and can you blame them? Look at the discourse on social media. Full of men and women alike criticising victims for being whores, desperate for attention and/or money. Adamant that without “proof” the perp is innocent. I swear there could even be concrete proof (like video) and there would still be swathes of people denying it. Who can blame women who have been raped/assaulted for being too scared to speak to police, have their lives and reputations dragged through the mud, only to be told the police can’t take the case any further due to lack of evidence?

And of the women who do go to the police, look at the statistics. Virtually none lead to a conviction. Rape is basically legal in this country.
Have I ever said anything to the contrary of anything you outline here? No. But for someone who seemingly wields a fair amount of power in the industry, she, by her own admission, didn’t speak to his employers, just him. And then made reference to his behaviour countless times.

Is it incumbent upon her to fight victims’ corners? No. Can she report on their behalf? No. But she did the bare minimum and can’t now pretend to be the one who was at the vanguard of his (overdue) downfall.
 
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Have I ever said anything to the contrary of anything you outline here? No. But for someone who seemingly wields a fair amount of power in the industry, she, by her own admission, didn’t speak to his employers, just him. And then made reference to his behaviour countless times.

Is it incumbent upon her to fight victims’ corners? No. Can she report on their behalf? No. But she did the bare minimum and can’t now pretend to be the one who was at the vanguard of his (overdue) downfall.
His employers knew. There was no need to tell them. Everyone knew. Katherine was just one of dozens, even hundreds of people, who knew. She said it was a “litigious minefield”, in other words, the balance of power was very much with Russell Brand, and working against the people who could have called him out.

I think your last sentence is bizarre because has Katherine said a single thing since the news broke? I haven’t heard a “I told you so”?
 
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Her silence kind of says it all really.

Side note it's a really depressing time to have daughters in this world 😓
 
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I feel like we all think we’d act differently but if you are really honest and imagine someone that is liked, very powerful in your work space and very very litigious, how many people would actually kick up a stink when they know that they’d end up being the one labelled as difficult. They’d get into trouble for saying something so inflammatory without evidence (by the sounds of it, the person she knew that he’d assaulted or raped if not want their name back in picture). You are stuck between protecting someone you know and attempting to expose someone. Someone who will aggressively deny it to the detriment of your reputation. It’s easy to see KR as someone powerful but she’s still ultimately in a man’s world and I genuinely think she did her best in a difficult situation to keep her friend and herself safe while letting him know she knew who he was and getting him off that show.
 
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I don’t think she could have done any more than she did. It didn’t happen to her and he had a big army of lawyers and tv bigwigs protecting him for some reason.
Like she said in her documentary she has a family to support and a costly legal battle would ruin her.
hopefully now it’s out there more people will come forward and get the sleazy bastard locked up!!
 
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And somehow a man’s actions become a women’s responsibility again… tale as old as time.
 
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And somehow a man’s actions become a women’s responsibility again… tale as old as time.
Isn’t it so depressing!
We MUST FIND A WAY TO BLAME WOMEN. They should have gone to the police, KR should have done more. Silly women. They knew what they were doing. Interesting that certain press are not going after him like they did for Phillip and Huw. No women to blame there (except the silly wives naturally).
 
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Sorry to go back to podcast. But those first 22 mins were a really really tough slog of boring tripe. Why she didn't open with meeting (not that I give a tit) Prince Harry, but that might be a bit more interesting to keep people engaged.
 
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