Jack Monroe #323 Two mini breaks in two months, what in the Budget Jones's Diary is going on?

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This is just poverty porn for their middle class readership. They could have asked someone with authentic experience of poverty and ACEs to write about their experiences or they could have asked an expert to explain their research but no, we get Jack performing imagined poverty instead. I used to spend money I could ill afford on that paper, now I wish it would go to the wall.
 
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God, it's all so carefully timed. Yesterday, she's saying how she's raised over £1m for the TT (prove it, duck face) and now she's rattling on about her extreme poverty. In short: "I deserve money, your money. Give me your money".

Repulsive human.
 
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Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can commnet. Is she saying that NHS can offer therapy to all who ask?
I find this hard to believe. Also - piece published in online article and is offering advice on twitter, why?
 
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Morning all, Brand new herren here. I have been lurking about for a few weeks and was over the moon to find my "something a bit off" radar about Jack wasn't wrong and there were a lot of like minded people here and I wasn't just being irrational. I am fairly local to Jack but the other side of town, so have known about her since the early days especially when she started appearing in the Echo, though I have largely tried to ignore her for the best part of the past ten years ( Standing as a local MP excepted). I laughed this morning as I have just seen on a local facebook page a BBC journalist looking for a Southend street they can "adopt" and follow every few months during the cost of living crisis to see how people are coping. I so wanted to suggest to her that maybe she could do poverty Queen Jack Monroes street!

Hello fellow Southender! I think there are a lot more of us from the town who are in in the “good grief really? Not her again [rolling eyes]” camp than Jack realises, and every time she pops up in the media spouting her Poor Jack bullshit, it prompts more of us to join the “oh duck off you absolute bullshitter” camp. Which is how I, and presumably you, ended up here.

I find it baffling that when there’s so much real poverty in Southend - especially in neighbourhoods like the one where I grew up - alongside so much wealth, the media choose someone living in a very wealthy area, who has wealthy parents, etc., etc., as their spokesperson for poverty. Why not give a voice to someone actually poor, or indeed who has ever really been?

My parents have always been dismissive of “bloody clueless Guardian readers” and I used to think that was unfair; but seeing as Jack is a Guardian editor’s choice of poor person then I have to reluctantly agree that Guardian readers are probably clueless, seemingly by editorial design.
 
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Perplexed if you were still in debt from the povertyTM then why did you use advances on 2 Burberry coats and a Mulberry Bayswater? You’ve been engaged at least twice in that first 5 years, and at least one was a multi millionaire, why weren’t they working on this with you?

I don’t have the CCJ .pdfs atm cos my personal laptop is upstairs but I’m pretty sure these were 2021 when she was playing bubble buddy games. And the nature of a CCJ means that’s a debt from the period before right, so when she was engaged to LJC who I have no doubt would be on >£150k per year base alone? All very peculiar isn’t it.
 
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Didn’t really enjoy that chaos grunk after my day away. Didn’t like the guardian article either.

if she is working with ONS then they are basically going to do all the work on the vimes bullshit indicator and she will take credit.
 
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My parents have always been dismissive of “bloody clueless Guardian readers” and I used to think that was unfair; but seeing as Jack is a Guardian editor’s choice of poor person then I have to reluctantly agree that Guardian readers are probably clueless, seemingly by editorial design.
I think in the past, the publication really did have something useful to say. It was providing a service to those who needed a voice.

Recently (in the last 10 years maybe) it has definitely lost its way. As you can tell from previous posters, the paper was loved by so many of us and the journey it is taking now is a personal loss for many of us.
 
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Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can commnet. Is she saying that NHS can offer therapy to all who ask?
I find this hard to believe. Also - piece published in online article and is offering advice on twitter, why?
Re therapy, yes. If you don't mind waiting 18 months for a referral.
 
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"Scared of strangers at the door and bills through the letterbox" - Jack Monroe, The Southend Spoon Goblin.

Why are people listening to someone who either hasn't experienced poverty in the last 10 years, and hasn't learnt anything from her claimed experience either??
Rather than total doom and gloom constantly why don't the media shine a spotlight on people who have experienced it, and have managed to turn their lives around without the help of book deals, affluent partners and free Patreon money?
 
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This is just poverty porn for their middle class readership. They could have asked someone with authentic experience of poverty and ACEs to write about their experiences or they could have asked an expert to explain their research but no, we get Jack performing imagined poverty instead. I used to spend money I could ill afford on that paper, now I wish it would go to the wall.
Right, or I’d love to read what it’s like to be a child growing up below the breadline… from a child currently doing so. The world is such a different place, if anything I think I was lucky to have my poor tit childhood pre social media as at least you got away from comparisons at home. Consumption is very different now too, like those memes of 14 year olds then / 14 year olds now are funny and true, but show kids themselves are spending more money and more flashy than previous gens. It must be really hard for them, not sure what Jack adds other than telling them they’re going to die of starvation?
 
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Re therapy, yes. If you don't mind waiting 18 months for a referral.
By which time, it will have been too late for some. It’s ok for smol pixies though who have kind benefactors to call on.

People like Hope Virgo though, who are fighting against these horrendous wait times for ED sufferers put the likes of Jack into tiny, little, dark corners.
 
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Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can commnet. Is she saying that NHS can offer therapy to all who ask?
I find this hard to believe. Also - piece published in online article and is offering advice on twitter, why?
A GP can refer for therapy but the waits are huge. Note that isn't just a Tory thing, around 2008 I was told I could be referred for some initial sessions that would then pass me in to the next more specialist step. Wait was 12 months initially, then a further 18 months after assessment. And yes, I dislike defending Tories.

The CCJ thing is quite odd. It takes a fair amount to get one, so I would surmise there was not openness or honesty regarding finance in the last relationship. Interestingly, I've spotted that Jack's relationships all seem to start when she is in a bad place. If you look, she met LJC the day after the court case finished for example. The current one would seem doomed based on last year - endless therapy, relapses. Just my opinion, but until you have some amount of being comfortable with yourself, a relationship isn't going to work well
 
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The CCJ thing is quite odd. It takes a fair amount to get one, so I would surmise there was not openness or honesty regarding finance in the last relationship. Interestingly, I've spotted that Jack's relationships all seem to start when she is in a bad place. If you look, she met LJC the day after the court case finished for example. The current one would seem doomed based on last year - endless therapy, relapses. Just my opinion, but until you have some amount of being comfortable with yourself, a relationship isn't going to work well
There is probably a lot of armchair psychology to be done here but a) it’s boring b) hayfever is off the scale c) cba d) it’s too hot.
 
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I’ve been busy so on a grunk, please excuse the lateness, but I’ve two observations from the last couple of threads.

1) Jack’s tattoos. I’m not going to critique the quality of them, as the owner as a few crap tattoos myself it’d be glass houses, but my thoughts are about the placement. Most people who have a few tattoos have them spread out, arms yes, but also legs, back, shoulders and so on. Jack’s are just on her arms and hands, they’re clearly perforative look at me, I’m such an edge lord tattoos. No one who actually cared about the artistic look of the tattoos would cram so many different styles together in such a small area.

2) Cleanliness and class. My experience is that working class and lower middle class people (I’d categorise myself as the latter) are very hot on being clean, well turned out and dress up for events. I had this ingrained into me as a child, although I didn’t realise how deep it went until I had my own child. Most of the friends I made when my daughter was small were a bit posher than me, when we met up I often noticed that their children were wearing their breakfast and had wild hair. I’m not making a judgment here but I simply could not go out unless my daughter was wearing clean clothes and had neatly brushed hair, I could almost hear my grandmother saying “what will people think if you let her go out looking like that?” Looking unkempt or not making an effort at an event is not a sign of poverty, it’s either teenage (not thirty something) behaviour or the privilege of people who don’t fear being looked down on.
 
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