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Scotch Mist

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New thread for those who admire JK Rowling for her excellent writing, wit, charity work and for standing up for women's rights against the madness.
This is an appreciation thread.

This thread is not for anyone who wants to use daft words like 'transphobe' and thinks men can magically become women just because they say so. Please take your delusion elsewhere.
 
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Falkor

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Someone I've known for decades posted on their social media this morning that anyone on his friends list who was ever going to give JKR any support whatsoever, in terms of things like watching Harry Potter, should just remove themselves from it immediately.

As I'd been considering binning the pontificating twat for a few months it was nice of him to make the decision for me :)
 
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Rowling

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I’m so glad to have found this thread about the wonderful Jo Rowling. I have been a fan of hers and the Wizarding World since I first read Philosophers Stone back at the beginning in the 90’s as a child, hence my Tattle name !.

I am a gay man (yes, I dared to say that outloud 😂) and I fully support everything she has said about sex and women’s rights. I whole heartedly love all she’s said defending gay men and lesbians. It is absolutely insane that gay men like myself who are only attracted to biological men are “transphobic” or “homophobic”. I can’t remember who said this but I remember some big wig of a charity called gay men like myself “sexual racists”.

I’m ashamed that so many of my fellow gay men clearly not listened to a single word Jo has said. She is not transphobic in the slightest , she’s said on many occasions that she wants trans people safe & protected.
 
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I love how it very quickly turned from a slagging off thread on page one thread one to the complete opposite :LOL:
And that’s because anyone with any capacity for critical thinking understands that gender ideology is incontrovertible nonsense and JKR lampoons it with incisive eloquence.
 
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ShopTilYouSlop

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There's far too much to catch it all but here are a few highlights....

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And just for lulz...

(I accidentally cut off the ratio but it was good.)

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TheMiceInTheShed

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So basically they're telling everyone that they don't give a shit about women's rights, as long as men in tights get to jerk off in female toilets?
As far as business decisions go, it's right up there with Gerald Ratner and his prawn sandwich comments 😬

We've just come back from our hols on a Caravanning and Camping Club site. Mr Mice nipped into the toilets for a quick wee while I had the Dog outside. This TiM came over and simpered "Oooh she's lovely - is she friendly" and I told him that she was, but had been badly abused before we got her so was very shy (sure enough she didn' let him touch her- just pulled away). Mr Mice practically followed him out so I said "He's just come out of the toilet block but I don't know if he came out of the ladies'". Mr Mice said "Well, he wasn't in the men's"

I thought "Right".

The reception was closed so I pulled one of the staff members about it. I mentioned that there was a trans-identified man on the site, and that he seemed a pleasant enough man but I suspected he was using the women's toilets and showers. The gist was:

StaffMember (SM). - Oh - he has a right to. He's a woman

Me - (slightly tickled by the pronoun use). I'm afraid he hasn't got a right to use the women's facilities. He's a man. Transwomen are men.

SM - Yes but he's legally entitled to use the women's because it's the law.

Me - No, you're mistaken. It isn't the law. Have you seen the Supreme Court clarification on the law? It states that everyone has to use facilities relating to their birth sex where those facilities are provided. If he is using the women's toilets and showers, he's breaking the law. And if you facilitate, encourage or allow him to use it, then so are you, I'm afraid. If anything happens it's your responsibility.

SM - I'll have to get on to the Caravan and camping Club about this

ME - I appreciate that, but they really need to check the law and the recent ruling. The only way you have even half a leg to stand on is if you don't have room for seperate blocks and have floor to ceiling doors and self-contained facilities.*.

SM - Oh we don't have them.

Me - I know.

SM - When they book we don't know they just book as Mrs X or Miss Y or whatever so we don't know what they are. We can't stop them coming.

Me - I realise that, and there's no reason to stop anyone coming to the site - they just need to be aware that they have to use the toilet relating to their sex and not their gender.

SM - I don't know which he's using - I can't follow him in.

Me - I know and I know it's difficult, but you could put a sign on the doors saying "These are SEX-SEGREGATED facilities . Please use the block relating to your birth sex"

SM - I'll have to ring the C&C Club about it if you don't mind. This has been a minefield for us.

Me - I appreciate that. It's been really difficult for everybody. As I said - he's a pleasant enough man, but I don't want to be showering next to any man, no matter how nice he is.

SM - Problem is, they aren't comfortable in the men's.

Me - I'm sure he isn't, but women aren't comfortable with him in the women's. You know there will be women in there who have been assaulted in the past, don't you? Women who have suffered domestic violence. Small children. I'm not saying that he's a wrong-un - I'm saying that there shouldn't be any adult men in the women's facilities.

SM - Well - I go in to clean them.

Me - Yes, but you wouldn't go in to use them, would you?. Or if women were in there showering? You make it clear that the block is closed for cleaning at whatever time and there is no-one in there.

SM - If you don't. mind I'll have to ring the club about this.

Anyway, the upshot is he's going to get in touch with the Caravan and Camping Club regarding it. In some ways I felt sorry for him. He obviously just didn't want any hassle (and, I suspect, was frightened of having to confront this man who was considerably bigger than he was). I can understand him not wanting trouble. As I said, we left the site shortly afterwards (our last day as it happens), but I felt I had to say something about it. If people just turn a blind eye we'll never get anywhere with this. We both kept our tempers and I stood my ground. I hope he does ring to check and wasn't just trying to get rid of this rant old bat. I hope everything I said was right - I couldn't remember details.

I don't know if any of you have had similar experiences at camp/caravan sites, but if so let me know if you've had any success. (And if any of you go to Beadnell let me know if there are any clear signs put up. Thanks)


ETA - on a slightly different note - the National Trust shop at Seahouses has greatly scaled back their "pride joy". A bit of rainbow ribbon and a couple of books in the window at the entrance. My heart lifted a little there)
 
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GabbyBeGone

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As a former sports journalist, I am no fan of Imane Khelif and find the (ongoing) circumstances suspicious and poorly handled by all institutions involved. Heaven knows that the question raised here is bizarre, too.

But this time, I must admit that I am not exactly thrilled with JKR's response either.

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My only sibling died by suicide, and personally I’m not a fan of the original “what if the poor woman died by suicide” post.

Suicide threats can be used as a way to try and emotionally manipulate others, and I don’t think potential threats of suicide should mean people stop being held accountable for their actions. With my sister I’ve spent many hours feeling angry at any colleagues, family or ex boyfriends who hurt her in anyway, in myself for any petty sibling spats we ever had. But ultimately I’ve realised my sister is responsible for her own actions. All suicides are a tragedy and I wish we could stop all of them, but blaming the survivors is counterproductive and wrong in the vast majority of cases.

I don’t wish Imane any harm and I certainly don’t want him dead, but at the same time the harm he has caused to other athletes isn’t ok.
 
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IndominusRex

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I have every sympathy with someone who grows up with DSD. I have zero sympathy with any male person knowingly using their strength to punch women in the face.
 
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This is utterly phenomenal. It articulates everything I’ve been thinking for so so long:


https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1918747065460420745?t=bPXQ2pY9VAwPPqFR26_vvw&s=19

In light of recent open letters from academia and the arts criticising the UK's Supreme Court ruling on sex-based rights, it's possibly worth remembering that nobody sane believes, or has ever believed, that humans can change sex, or that binary sex isn't a material fact. These letters do nothing but remind us of what we know only too well: that pretending to believe these things has become an elitist badge of virtue.

I often wonder whether the signatories of such letters have to quieten their consciences before publicly boosting a movement intent on removing women's and girls' rights, which bullies gay people who admit openly they don't want opposite sex partners, and campaigns for the continued sterilisation of vulnerable and troubled kids. Do they feel any qualms at all while chanting the foundational lie of their religion: Trans Women are Women, Trans Men are Men?

I have no idea. All I know for sure is that it's a complete waste of time telling a gender activist that their favourite slogan is self-contradictory nonsense, because the lie is the whole point. They're not repeating it because it's true - they know full well it's not true - but because they believe they can make it true, sort of, if they force everyone else to agree. The foundational lie functions as both catechism and crucifix: the set form of words that obviates the tedious necessity of coming up with your own explanation of why you're one of the Godly, and an exorcist's weapon which will defeat demonic facts and reason, and promote the advance of righteous pseudoscience and sophistry.

Some argue that signatories of these sorts of letters are motivated by fear: fear for their careers, of course, but also fear of their co-religionists, who include angry, narcissistic men who threaten and sometimes enact violence on non-believers; back-stabbing colleagues ever ready to report wrongthink; the online shamers and doxxers and rape threateners, and, of course, the influential zealots in the upper echelons of liberal professions (though we can quibble whether they're actually liberal at all, given the draconian authoritarianism that seems to have engulfed so many). Gender ideology could give medieval Catholicism a run for its money when it comes to punishing heretics, so isn't it common sense to keep your head down and recite your Hail Mulvaneys?

But before we start feeling too sorry for any cowed and fearful TWAWites who're TERFy on the sly, let's not forget what a high proportion of them have willingly snatched up pitchforks and torches to join the inquisitional purges. Call me lacking in proper womanly sympathy, but I find the harm they've enabled and in some cases directly championed or funded - the hounding and shaming of vulnerable women, the forced loss of livelihoods, the unregulated medical experiment on minors - tends to dry up my tears at source.

History is littered with the debris of irrational and harmful belief systems that once seemed unassailable. As Orwell said, 'Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.' Gender ideology may have embedded itself deeply into our institutions, where it's been imposed, top-down, on the supposedly unenlightened, but it is not invulnerable.

Court losses are starting to stack up. The condescension, overreach, entitlement and aggression of gender activists is eroding public support daily. Women are fighting back and winning significant victories. Sporting bodies have miraculously awoken from their slumber and remembered that males tend to be larger, stronger and faster than females. Parts of the medical establishment are questioning cutting healthy breasts off teenaged girls is really the best way to fix their mental health problems.

One seemingly harmless little white lie - Trans Women are Women, Trans Men are Men - uttered in most cases without any real thought at all, and a few short years later, people who think of themselves as supremely virtuous are typing 'yes, rapists' pronouns are absolutely the hill I'll die on,' rubbing shoulders with those who call for women to be hanged and decapitated for wanting all-female rape crisis centres, and furiously denying clear and mounting evidence of the greatest medical scandal in a century.

I wonder if they ever ask themselves how they got here, and I wonder whether any of them will ever feel shame.
 
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Rowling

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Tom Felton saying exactly what I’ve said for a long time when it comes to the Wizarding World to anyone who “condemns” Jo but still profits from anything to do with Potter , it being cast members or content creators ….. SHE’S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT ALL.

Without her , none of it would exist. These content creators and YouTubers especially who talk about Potter and don’t acknowledge her or just say “the author” have no right using her IP to make money from if they are so against Jo’s views. I suspect maybe some of them agree with Jo but daren’t say so.

 
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queenamber

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Can I park myself here? I've had bit of a JK Rowling revival recently. I'm currently re-reading Harry Potter and Strike and having such a bloody lovely time. I consider myself a 'leftist' in most areas and my Twitter timeline is always full of people condemning JKR. So many of my friends have thrown away all of their JKR books and can't seem to separate the art from the artist. Delving back into her worlds has been such a comfort and feels like my own personal little treat! This morning I've just been re-listening to The Witch Trials podcast and she's bloody brilliant.
 
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Scotch Mist

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JK is an absolute heroine but I'm getting very tired of the media constantly making reference to her 'controversial opinions' every time they write about her. To the majority her opinions aren't controversial at all because we agree with her. They need to give it a fucking rest and stop pandering to a minority.
 
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moldwarp

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Owen Jones is a prize cunt, like most of them.
And he got OWNED yesterday by an MI6 operative called Aimen Dean whom Jones accused, on X, of peddling misinformation about Israel-Hamas conflict.

I paste Aimen Dean's response in full below because it's the most honest and frank takedown of OJ that there will ever be:

@AimenDean:
Now, now, Owen. Breathe.

Before you fling the label “disinformation peddler” around like it’s confetti at one of your student union rallies, how about - just once - you actually refute the information instead of writing a lazy, dismissive sentence and pretending you’ve scored a point?



Let’s talk qualifications, shall we?



See, unlike you, I’ve had real jobs - plural.

Jobs with stakes. In intelligence, in security, in global finance. For nine years, I headed the Financial Intelligence Unit of a global bank. That’s right: I dealt with threats that actually mattered, not imaginary ones drawn on the back of a Guardian opinion page.



You? You’ve spent your adult life in a journalistic safe space echo chamber, armed with an MA in U.S. history, a region you don’t even write about. And let’s be honest: if history and geography were boxing gloves, you’d still manage to punch yourself in the face. You’ve never held elected office. You’ve never worked in banking, finance, diplomacy, security, or anything remotely requiring accountability or expertise. You don’t speak a word of Arabic. You can’t name three Yemeni tribes, let alone explain the tribal dynamics behind a conflict you comment on with stunning confidence and stunning ignorance.



You opposed the Saudi-led war in Yemen, a war that, in retrospect, was a strategic necessity against Iranian expansionism and a Houthi militia now proven to be a regional and a global threat. But of course, nuance isn’t your strong suit. You framed it as a “crime against humanity” while totally ignoring the actual crimes by the Houthis, according to the majority of Yemenis and Arab states.



And then there’s your economic wisdom. You once called for the nationalization of all banks. All of them. As if Monopoly money and Marxist pamphlets are interchangeable. You’re a walking manifesto for why no one should let infantile socialists anywhere near macroeconomics Let me make one thing clear, Owen: I don’t do disinformation. I can’t.

Because unlike you, I answer to people who don’t tolerate fantasy. Global funds, sovereign wealth funds, global banks, commodity traders, airlines, energy companies and heck, even governments - they don’t pay me for ideology. They pay me for cold, hard, verified intelligence and solid forecasts. And if I were wrong - consistently wrong, like you? I’d be out of business in a heartbeat. These people are not kind when it comes to failure. To give them wrong forecast is to cost them money, so I must seek - and tell - only the cold hard truths, and their implications.



This isn’t The Guardian; there’s no editor to hide behind, no trendy moral outrage to mask incompetence.



You survive on emotionalism and mob applause. I survive on precision. On getting it right.



So no, Owen, don’t project your failures onto me. Don’t confuse your echo chamber for authority. You’re a one-note, one-language, one-track ideologue who’s never held a real job, never risked a real decision, and never had to face the consequences of being catastrophically wrong.



You deal in slogans. I deal in facts.

You write for applause. I deliver for clients.

You thrive on fiction. I don’t have that luxury.



So next time you feel tempted to call someone a “disinformation peddler,” look in the mirror, and have a long, honest chat with the reflection of a man who’s done precisely nothing with his life but shout from the sidelines.



@AimenDean
 
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Bellatrix Lestrange

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I’m a bit late to see this thread - it’s a haven of sanity and JK rocks. Thank you all for making me feel like I’m NOT a narrow minded bigot.

i couldn’t care less what people call themselves and have always supported people’s right to go through a sex change. But if you still have a penis I don’t want to shower/get changed/try on clothes/go to the toilet next to you. And I refuse to apologise for that.

why is it that wanting a safe space for women automatically makes you anti-trans? I don’t get it!
 
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HockyRorror

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JK puts the so-called Dr in her place. (This doctor gives me actual real evil, Umbridge vibes. She’s a child predator imo).

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It's almost like the people who promote puberty blockers to children, thus ensuring that the child retains the body and mind of a child into adulthood, have an agenda.
 
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Rowling

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Jo is a fucking legend , this reply to India made me nearly cough up a lung laughing 😂😂😂


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