Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #151 Shaking and crying, grifting and lying

[StoneMountain]

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Words from @Mad Betty:

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When you've had "too much of Alice",
please remember these wonderful words of @ReturningthePearls:

 

[NarcRage]

Ooh I won the thread title again! I hope this winds her up enough to start posting fake bullshit on Mumsnet pretending to be me again.
Alice I know you're envious but get your own name.

 

[MarmiteMonster]

Were the pancakes a special treat breakfast for not seeing dad?

 

[M33L4]

It’s obvious that she’s been interfering with visitation again and plans to continue claiming the children are always sick. This makes me angrier than anything else she says or does. Weaponizing your children against their father is the most disgusting thing a parent can do. It shows that she doesn’t care about them. She only cares about herself and her agenda.
@AnneinHever


Just brought this over from the tail end of the last thread because it’s very important.
This is why I want to see her get shut down. Not only is she damaging a father/daughter relationship that she doesn’t have(!!) she’s potentially destroying any loving relationship those girls have in later life. Wether that be with an intimate partner or work colleague. In her absolute rage and need for revenge, she is hurting those she supposedly loves the most. They currently only speak to Tone, who let’s face it has the intelligence of a wet flopping about the boat fish.

 

[Diamonds60]

@AnneinHever It’s obvious that she’s been interfering with visitation again and plans to continue claiming the children are always sick. This makes me angrier than anything else she says or does. Weaponizing your children against their father is the most disgusting thing a parent can do. It shows that she doesn’t care about them. She only cares about herself and her agenda.

Just brought this over from the tail end of the last thread because it’s very important.
This is why I want to see her get shut down. Not only is she damaging a father/daughter relationship that she doesn’t have(!!) she’s potentially destroying any loving relationship those girls have in later life. Wether that be with an intimate partner or work colleague. In her absolute rage and need for revenge, she is hurting those she supposedly loves the most. They currently only speak to Tone, who let’s face it has the intelligence of a wet flopping about the boat fish.

She also weaponised them against other Twitter users. The kids are there to be used.

 

[NarcRage]

@AnneinHever It’s obvious that she’s been interfering with visitation again and plans to continue claiming the children are always sick. This makes me angrier than anything else she says or does. Weaponizing your children against their father is the most disgusting thing a parent can do. It shows that she doesn’t care about them. She only cares about herself and her agenda.

Just brought this over from the tail end of the last thread because it’s very important.
This is why I want to see her get shut down. Not only is she damaging a father/daughter relationship that she doesn’t have(!!) she’s potentially destroying any loving relationship those girls have in later life. Wether that be with an intimate partner or work colleague. In her absolute rage and need for revenge, she is hurting those she supposedly loves the most. They currently only speak to Tone, who let’s face it has the intelligence of a wet flopping about the boat fish.

Wonder if the VR game was a present from sister Alice. It's an expensive purchase for someone on benefits....
I'm sure she bought it with her own childhood savings of course

 

[StoneMountain]

@AnneinHever It’s obvious that she’s been interfering with visitation again and plans to continue claiming the children are always sick. This makes me angrier than anything else she says or does. Weaponizing your children against their father is the most disgusting thing a parent can do. It shows that she doesn’t care about them. She only cares about herself and her agenda.

Just brought this over from the tail end of the last thread because it’s very important.
This is why I want to see her get shut down. Not only is she damaging a father/daughter relationship that she doesn’t have(!!) she’s potentially destroying any loving relationship those girls have in later life. Wether that be with an intimate partner or work colleague. In her absolute rage and need for revenge, she is hurting those she supposedly loves the most. They currently only speak to Tone, who let’s face it has the intelligence of a wet flopping about the boat fish.

Thanks for bringing that over. Sometimes I'm fighting to stay awake as we reach the posts limit on a thread.

I'm on the rewind after going through three days of sleeping about 20 hours a day to returning to staying awake with little sleep. Thankfully this only happens a few times a year. Hoping I get the balance back of somewhat regular sleep maybe coupled with a short daily nap.

 

[M33L4]

Thanks for bringing that over. Sometimes I'm fighting to stay awake as we reach the posts limit on a thread.

I'm on the rewind after going through three days of sleeping about 20 hours a day to returning to staying awake with little sleep. Thankfully this only happens a few times a year. Hoping I get the balance back of somewhat regular sleep maybe coupled with a short daily nap.

Oh I’m sending love and mimsy hugs.
Try and rest x

 

[brie l]

Now I'm a whole thread behind, luckily the weekend is coming up so I can catch up.

Jumping to end to share my latest Tattle ad. Google is definitely reading along with me.

Alice - here's a deal on car insurance for you

 

[onservantannie]

Love the thread title, but I think this one had the most likes:

 

[M33L4]

Wonder if the VR game was a present from sister Alice. It's an expensive purchase for someone on benefits....
I'm sure she bought it with her own childhood savings of course

I have always thought it was. A bribe to hide the money. He lives in a modest house and I’m not sure how benefits work when paying a mortgage etc. from my understanding housing benefit doesn’t cover an actual mortgage, only rent?
So yes, he’s not living the high life.

Oh here’s an out there theory that might just be correct. *If* Tone is renting a house from his beloved and beleaguered darling sister, he can use housing benefit to pay it, right? So she essentially gets the mortgage paid and he lives in it on the tax payers dime?

 

[StoneMountain]

Love the thread title, but I think this one had the most likes:

@sistersofpercy @onservantannie @NarcRage
Many, many thanks for catching my error -- I've written the mods and am hoping the title can be corrected.

ETA: our wonderful mods made the correction... again, my apologies to all

 

[Ally Pally]

I have always thought it was. A bribe to hide the money. He lives in a modest house and I’m not sure how benefits work when paying a mortgage etc. from my understanding housing benefit doesn’t cover an actual mortgage, only rent?
So yes, he’s not living the high life.

Oh here’s an out there theory that might just be correct. *If* Tone is renting a house from his beloved and beleaguered darling sister, he can use housing benefit to pay it, right? So she essentially gets the mortgage paid and he lives in it on the tax payers dime?

I think that's called defrauding benefits in fact I'm sure it is!!

 

[M33L4]

I think that's called defrauding benefits in fact I'm sure it is!!

I’m going with my theory and running with it. Could the $105,000 be tied up in Tone’s house?

 

[barre19]

It’s obvious that she’s been interfering with visitation again and plans to continue claiming the children are always sick. This makes me angrier than anything else she says or does. Weaponizing your children against their father is the most disgusting thing a parent can do. It shows that she doesn’t care about them. She only cares about herself and her agenda.
@AnneinHever


Just brought this over from the tail end of the last thread because it’s very important.
This is why I want to see her get shut down. Not only is she damaging a father/daughter relationship that she doesn’t have(!!) she’s potentially destroying any loving relationship those girls have in later life. Wether that be with an intimate partner or work colleague. In her absolute rage and need for revenge, she is hurting those she supposedly loves the most. They currently only speak to Tone, who let’s face it has the intelligence of a wet flopping about the boat fish.

Such a valid point @AnneinHever and it deserves to be highlighted over and over, for the lurkers and the undecideds.

She’s demonstrated so many times how uninterested she is in encouraging those children to develop their own thoughts and opinions, and helping them to grow into autonomous human beings. She doesn’t encourage them to start thinking critically, or examine their own feelings - she just parrots her own agenda to them, over and over. All this talk of them being such a tight little unit, “her babies”, she wants to infantilise them so that they keep blindly following her lead instead of questioning anything.

That isn’t parenting, that’s brainwashing.

 

[M33L4]

Such a valid point @AnneinHever and it deserves to be highlighted over and over, for the lurkers and the undecideds.

She’s demonstrated so many times how uninterested she is in encouraging those children to develop their own thoughts and opinions, and helping them to grow into autonomous human beings. She doesn’t encourage them to start thinking critically, or examine their own feelings - she just parrots her own agenda to them, over and over. All this talk of them being such a tight little unit, “her babies”, she wants to infantilise them so that they keep blindly following her lead instead of questioning anything.

That isn’t parenting, that’s brainwashing.

It also enmeshes them to her in adulthood. They will be paying for her and caring for poor old Al just like Ioan did.

 

[NarcRage]

@sistersofpercy @onservantannie @NarcRage
Many, many thanks for catching my error -- I've written the mods and am hoping the title can be corrected.


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ETA: our wonderful mods made the correction... again, my apologies to all

I'm SLAYED

I think that's called defrauding benefits in fact I'm sure it is!!

Ioan would know if she owns Tones house. Would also have to be declared on her US tax return. Don't think this is it.
If he has a mortgage the gov would cover interest on it.

 

[Cheezychips]

Shakin' Evans - Merry Christmas, E-vic-tion.

Bills are falling
All around me
Knobs are breaking
No cleaning done

Delivery McDonalds,
Instead of Thanksgiving dinner
Merry Christmas
E-vic-tion

Couldn't be arsed making up the rest, but cheese string on the skylight was a firm contender for the bridge part. I've been listening to way to much Heart FM Xmas

 

[Diamonds60]

@StoneMountain all your hard work to do the new thread for us time and again, I highly appreciate it as I’ve never had the balls to do it in 14 months. Anyway thank you for doing it for us.

 

[NarcRage]

For the benefit of her fans who may lurk here...explain this.
She is saying she has spent $200,000 on the kids in the past two years, so she is admitting she had $200,000 at the start and has zero now.
Assuming this is true (and we know it's not but let's pretend it is) that's $8,333 per month. (200k /24 months =8,333pcm)
Going with her assertion....by June of this year she would have spent 18 months worth of this, so 3/4 of it which would be $150,000
Which means that in June she would have had $50,000 when she was begging for food money on gofundme and people were sending her food parcels.

Or if she spent ALL of it by June and had NO money by then (so the go fund me was genuine) she would have been spending $200,000 in 18 months, which is $11,111pcm

Is she saying she has paid the mortgage property taxes car insurance health insurance and all the other bills? Because that's very easy to establish from bank statements.

She said she spends $500 per week.

Since June, when she was at zero allegedly, she has only received $5400 from the GFM but has made that last six months?????

Please make this make sense because it really doesn't.