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Disgusting the trusts should be ashamed of themselves.
"One trust told medics to withdraw treatment if a female patient refused to accept an intact male on women’s wards until 2019."

Women on these wards are often sedated or weak due to surgery and drugs, I hope in the very least the nursing staff are watching them carefully but from what I saw when my mum spent a week in the gyn ward, she was left unwatched for hours. So much opportunity for intrusion ☹
 
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This is literally a South Park episode.
There are plenty of South Park episodes that are just puerile potty humour - but they have also skewered and satirised the financial crisis, reality tv, scientology, hells angels, gaming. I don’t watch it any more because lack of attention span but series 9-13 are still very very funny. And gross obviously.
It may or may not be relevant information, but Hubbard's father is a wealthy anti-gay campaigner (with connections that got Hubbard off a careless driving charge in 2018).
Would rather have a trans daughter than a gay son then.
 
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Every grandmother, mother, aunt, big sister needs to speak out – loudly and often – about this pervasive misogyny that will blight the lives of the young women of the future.

This is a personal experience…

My niece has just finished college and has achieved a First. She wants to work in the field of international human rights, specialising in women’s issues. She is being silenced before she has even had a chance to start her career. Her last year of lectures (on Zoom) has been blighted by a vociferous (and vicious) minority, who believe that trans issues trump, for example, the issues of women in refugee camps in Sudan, Syria, etc.

She now feels that she must keep her opinions to herself if she is to have any hope of finding work in her chosen field – a potentially powerful advocate for women (and human rights in general) will be silenced while someone on TikTok gets ‘likes’ for inventing some ridiculous non-binary pronouns.
 
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My mum has peaked. She admitted today that when I've spoken about stuff to her she's only half listened, she's been pleased that I have feminist views but thought I may have been slightly exaggerating now bad things were. Seeing Laurel Hubbard compete yesterday sealed it. She had assumed when I was speaking to her about it before that Laurel was an old school pre-op transsexual but she looked at her yesterday and then looked in to self ID a bit and it all clicked, her and my stepdad dad can't believe how unfair it was.
 
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My mum has peaked. She admitted today that when I've spoken about stuff to her she's only half listened, she's been pleased that I have feminist views but thought I may have been slightly exaggerating now bad things were. Seeing Laurel Hubbard compete yesterday sealed it. She had assumed when I was speaking to her about it before that Laurel was an old school pre-op transsexual but she looked at her yesterday and then looked in to self ID a bit and it all clicked, her and my stepdad dad can't believe how unfair it was.
That's great news! I think lots of people assume we are referring to old school trans people when discussing these things and I definitely don't think people know how bad things are. It certainly doesn't help that, at least in the UK, the daily mail are the only ones who seem to report on the insidious side of trans issues.
 
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"She's had a big impact on the sport"

Hardly. They didn't make one successful lift.

The people making an impact on women's weightlifting are the women who have trained day in, day out. Not a man who should have retired years ago and who failed to achieve one successful lift.
 
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"She's had a big impact on the sport"

Hardly. They didn't make one successful lift.

The people making an impact on women's weightlifting are the women who have trained day in, day out. Not a man who should have retired years ago and who failed to achieve one successful lift.
Thought he might “hang up his boots” fairly soon after his display yesterday. :rolleyes:
 
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"She's had a big impact on the sport"

Hardly. They didn't make one successful lift.

The people making an impact on women's weightlifting are the women who have trained day in, day out. Not a man who should have retired years ago and who failed to achieve one successful lift.
The soft speaking and mannerisms. WTF. It’s like he’s studied old reels of Lady Diana for tips.
 
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The soft speaking and mannerisms. WTF. It’s like he’s studied old reels of Lady Diana for tips.
That was the first thing that came to mind. Noticed they've chosen to wear a hat to hide the receding hairline too...
 
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"She's had a big impact on the sport"

Hardly. They didn't make one successful lift.

The people making an impact on women's weightlifting are the women who have trained day in, day out. Not a man who should have retired years ago and who failed to achieve one successful lift.
Emily Campbell, who won Great Britain’s first ever women’s weightlifting Olympic medal has made a bigger impact for the sport. Especially as she had no Lottery funding and had to get there herself. I don’t know much about Emily but I’m presuming she doesn’t have wealthy parents either. What positive things has Laurel done for women’s weightlifting in New Zealand? duck all. He couldn’t even lift.

On the whole sports being open to all thing, they are open! Anyone can get into weight lifting if they want. Competing is different, no one is entitled to compete. You have to be good enough and in an ideal world as a biological man you would be excluded from the women’s category regardless of trans status. Compete with the men if you want to compete at all.

That was the first thing that came to mind. Noticed they've chosen to wear a hat to hide the receding hairline too...
The hat looks stupid. Yellow is not Laurel’s colour.
 
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He’s bleeping balding, the size of a tit brick house, has every masculine trait possible and generally looks like the creepy uncle you keep away from the kids.

Don’t tell me he’s a bleeping hero and a game changer. He’s a thief and a fetishist of women.
 
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Btw, I went to the Posie Parker meet on Sunday.

The event was live-streamed if you want to watch. The speakers were generally very good (there was one lady who started going on about covid conspiracy theories who I didn't agree with, but I enjoyed everyone else.)

 
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A Tale of 2 Questions...

So calm, when asked what they made of the "historic" participation of LH. Silence, then "No thank you"... *Mic drop*

 
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He’s bleeping balding, the size of a tit brick house, has every masculine trait possible and generally looks like the creepy uncle you keep away from the kids.

Don’t tell me he’s a bleeping hero and a game changer. He’s a thief and a fetishist of women.
I bloody love that you don't hold back 😂

Emily Campbell, who won Great Britain’s first ever women’s weightlifting Olympic medal has made a bigger impact for the sport. Especially as she had no Lottery funding and had to get there herself. I don’t know much about Emily but I’m presuming she doesn’t have wealthy parents either. What positive things has Laurel done for women’s weightlifting in New Zealand? duck all. He couldn’t even lift.

On the whole sports being open to all thing, they are open! Anyone can get into weight lifting if they want. Competing is different, no one is entitled to compete. You have to be good enough and in an ideal world as a biological man you would be excluded from the women’s category regardless of trans status. Compete with the men if you want to compete at all.
I notice the BBC haven't bothered to write about Emily Campbell and the impact she'll have on young women getting into weightlifting 🙄 funny that
 
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Btw, I went to the Posie Parker meet on Sunday.

The event was live-streamed if you want to watch. The speakers were generally very good (there was one lady who started going on about covid conspiracy theories who I didn't agree with, but I enjoyed everyone else.)

I'll take a look later, thank you. One day I hope to be brave enough to attend one 😊
 
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I notice the BBC haven't bothered to write about Emily Campbell and the impact she'll have on young women getting into weightlifting 🙄 funny that
Tbf there are a few articles on her winning, but we all know that won't be getting the clicks like Laurel will be and the news at the moment is more or less based on that almost tabloid approach
 
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