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I also believe we need to sort GPs out. Every single time I was referred to the hospital to see a specialist by a GP ended up being a complete false alarm and GPs not doing their job properly. For example, was sent into A&E on an ambulance because the GP thought I had meningitis. It was just a bad tonsillitis. I had a “broken leg”, “broken arm”, “appendicitis”, “rheumatoid arthritis” (I was 20!) and “breast cancer” on top of that according to GPs that sent me to the hospital, each time it was a complete false alarm. I have no idea how much money was wasted by the NHS because GPs misdiagnose, sometimes without even seeing me (and that was pre-COVID).
We need to make sure that they are better qualified, perhaps. I don’t know what the answer is, really.
I like the Norway system (it’s what my friend that lives there told me, I don’t know how much of it is 100% correct). GPs there specialise in certain areas, so not just general for any ailment. You have 10 free visits to the GP per year, if you have more visits, you pay for them. If you have an underlying health condition, OAP or a child, the number of visits is unlimited. All the specialist care is free.
I think the gps are risk averse because can you imagine if it was the other way round and they missed something vital - there’s already so many stories about people that went to tbe GP several times and got fobbed off, for it to turn out to be terminal cancer or something. I find that GPs seem to just be the gateway to specialist services, they don’t do much of the diagnosing themselves unless it’s a common ailment (in which case the person themselves probably knows what it is anyway).
 
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I think the gps are risk averse because can you imagine if it was the other way round and they missed something vital - there’s already so many stories about people that went to tbe GP several times and got fobbed off, for it to turn out to be terminal cancer or something. I find that GPs seem to just be the gateway to specialist services, they don’t do much of the diagnosing themselves unless it’s a common ailment (in which case the person themselves probably knows what it is anyway).
True, I didn’t think of that!
I really don’t know what should be done, just feel really bad that I have wasted so much of the NHS funding 😔 Maybe we can at least make sure that GPs see the patients before referring them? I honestly don’t know. I suppose I should consider myself lucky that each time my problems were considered more serious that they were and that I was definitely being treated.
 
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They’ve secured enough vaccine but it’ll depend if the manufacturer can deliver
 
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I also believe we need to sort GPs out. Every single time I was referred to the hospital to see a specialist by a GP ended up being a complete false alarm and GPs not doing their job properly. For example, was sent into A&E on an ambulance because the GP thought I had meningitis. It was just a bad tonsillitis. I had a “broken leg”, “broken arm”, “appendicitis”, “rheumatoid arthritis” (I was 20!) and “breast cancer” on top of that according to GPs that sent me to the hospital, each time it was a complete false alarm. I have no idea how much money was wasted by the NHS because GPs misdiagnose, sometimes without even seeing me (and that was pre-COVID).
We need to make sure that they are better qualified, perhaps. I don’t know what the answer is, really.
I like the Norway system (it’s what my friend that lives there told me, I don’t know how much of it is 100% correct). GPs there specialise in certain areas, so not just general for any ailment. You have 10 free visits to the GP per year, if you have more visits, you pay for them. If you have an underlying health condition, OAP or a child, the number of visits is unlimited. All the specialist care is free.
You can get rheumatoid arthritis at any age, it’s an autoimmune disease caused by your immune system attacking itself. It’s not wear and tear or old age, that’s osteoarthritis. Rheumatoid arthritis, juvenile arthritis and psoriatic arthritis (which I have) and many others are inflammatory and aren’t just about pain in your joints....just wanted to explain that as you mentioned it in your post.
 
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You need another question on the poll. I'm in Scotland but will (hopefully) go to Blackpool as always in August for my mum's 85th bbirthday.

She's totally cheesed of by the lockdowns and moans about them constantly. All she talks about is when can we go to the seaside, when can we go on holiday.

She's now moaning that Bradley Walsh is allowed to go on holiday and she's not and that the audience in the the Masked Singer got to see a show and we haven't been at the theatre since March.

It's incredibly wearing!!!

I'm working full time - in the office - and then coming home to her moaning is driving me insane.

I know furlough is no picnic but if I was furloughed I could at least take her to the park during the day. By the time I get in at night - it's dark

but furlough isn't an option!!!

But worst of all, we now realise the vaccination isn't the magic bullet we were promised. We need to find a way to live with the virus. One that doesn't include constant endless lockdowns.
 
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**We have vaccinated more people in 3 days than France have over all in this pandemic**
(Repeated on both Ridge and Andr...Tory Marr)

no HandCock, no you haven’t!
You’ve vaccinated a few thousand? (Not sure on the stats on that one) and half vaccinated the rest.

why must the U.K. continue to make this a competition.
ass wipe.
 
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Honestly find it so hard one minute you hear some positive news giving you hope then the next your told something else that feels like this is never going to end 😞😞
 
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Honestly find it so hard one minute you hear some positive news giving you hope then the next your told something else that feels like this is never going to end 😞😞
I’d say avoid the news, but it’s next to impossible. You can’t go online, switch on your TV or speak to anyone without Covid popping up. I think that’s what gets to me most.
 
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You can get rheumatoid arthritis at any age, it’s an autoimmune disease caused by your immune system attacking itself. It’s not wear and tear or old age, that’s osteoarthritis. Rheumatoid arthritis, juvenile arthritis and psoriatic arthritis (which I have) and many others are inflammatory and aren’t just about pain in your joints....just wanted to explain that as you mentioned it in your post.
I suppose, but the GP didn’t see me, just did telephone triage, said that it sounds like RA and referred me to the hospital. It turned out to be nothing, fortunately. It could be that he would still refer me even after seeing me, but who knows.
 
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So now we have to worry about undiscovered varients. We can't live our lives on if buts and maybes!
There's that goalpost moved again 🙄
They've always said we'll have to live alongside it but striking a balance could take forever ,there's no quick fix ...it's sickening .
 
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So now we have to worry about undiscovered varients. We can't live our lives on if buts and maybes!
There's that goalpost moved again 🙄
see this is the thing about these “interviews”
they’re not journalists, they’re tv shows.
And unfortunately the government representatives seem to have bought into this bull crap circus.

there will be millions of variants, there ARE millions of variants, some more transmissible than others, it really is no different to flu in that respect.

they’ve detected 3 (3?) that are causing concerns. There are probably about 100 out there that are similar, or at least there will be over the next few years, hence the “micro chips to control us via trump towers”
... sorry vaccines 😂 and restrictions for now. (Focus on now, not winter 2022 or Christmas 2024)

It’s like being scared of the dark, there are candles lighting at the moment so we can see 🤷‍♀️ but vision is limited and the shadows are scary, worrying about what a shadow COULD be is pointless, it’s probably just a pot noodle pot.
the electricity will come back on and that pot was just a pot of tit with no nutritional value, not a monster, I mean by all means avoid that tit as much as you can, like the new variants...but don’t be scared you might get the trots when you haven’t actually touched the pot or ate it.

damn, I’m sure this started somewhere positive 😂
 
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They've always said we'll have to live alongside it but striking a balance could take forever ,there's no quick fix ...it's sickening .
Then they need to make their minds up. Either this vaccine helps or it doesn't. We're told daily how marvellous it is and how it can't be changed to suit different varients, so that suggests with how hopeful they are that we get freedoms back.
We're told we need cases to come down and wait for the NHS to be under less pressure. That's happening.

Then from nowhere you get wankcock and his cronies saying they're worried about new varients that haven't even happened yet and might never happen. We can't run a country on maybes. At some point the 5 million people waiting for treatment will need it, kids have to be educated and socialise, people need to work.
The dangling on what ifs isn't how we get out of this, at some point they have to make a leap of faith
 
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So putting together the information that we now have, courtesy of @monga Daily News Bulletins

There seem to be more and more health professionals coming forward who are unhappy with the twelve week delay in giving people their second jab, and feel that we are putting these people through a trial - wait and see. Personally, I would go half way here now and continue giving everyone in the first four categories their first shot, but I think the second shots need to be given possibly at six weeks, as someone suggested yesterday.

So the Government will be talking about closing inbound flights that are non essential. I just haven't a clue why it's taken them so long.

We're doing really well at administering the vaccine, as long as supplies keep coming. Feeling happy and worried about this.

All in all, this has answered some of my questions, and I now feel a little more positive today.
 
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Then they need to make their minds up. Either this vaccine helps or it doesn't. We're told daily how marvellous it is and how it can't be changed to suit different varients, so that suggests with how hopeful they are that we get freedoms back.
We're told we need cases to come down and wait for the NHS to be under less pressure. That's happening.

Then from nowhere you get wankcock and his cronies saying they're worried about new varients that haven't even happened yet and might never happen. We can't run a country on maybes. At some point the 5 million people waiting for treatment will need it, kids have to be educated and socialise, people need to work.
The dangling on what ifs isn't how we get out of this, at some point they have to make a leap of faith
More fool anyone that hangs on their every word , I just look at how other countries are for my answers , now they're saying vaccine priority groups might change ...surprise ,surprise I think I put that on the other thread.
 
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Then they need to make their minds up. Either this vaccine helps or it doesn't. We're told daily how marvellous it is and how it can't be changed to suit different varients, so that suggests with how hopeful they are that we get freedoms back.
We're told we need cases to come down and wait for the NHS to be under less pressure. That's happening.

Then from nowhere you get wankcock and his cronies saying they're worried about new varients that haven't even happened yet and might never happen. We can't run a country on maybes. At some point the 5 million people waiting for treatment will need it, kids have to be educated and socialise, people need to work.
The dangling on what ifs isn't how we get out of this, at some point they have to make a leap of faith
I agree. I don’t think the goodwill of the public will last much longer, I have to say mine is starting to wain. The message from the government needs to be consistent but it isn’t. I totally accept that they don’t have a magic wand but they are no better at communicating the truth nearly a year later.
 
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More fool anyone that hangs on their every word , I just look at how other countries are for my answers , now they're saying vaccine priority groups might change ...surprise ,surprise I think I put that on the other thread.
This is just what they shouldn't do in my opinion. I can accept them changing their minds about restrictions as numbers change. But the decision on vaccine prioritisation should stay put, at least until they catch up with themselves. This isn't a game, and they can't play with people's health.
 
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