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Gym&Tonic

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I genuinely think that anti vaxers should be strung up from the nearest lamp post. Most of them are personality disordered weirdos who like to feel superior by believing that they are in on some kind of big ‘secret’ that that rest of us ‘sheep’ don’t know about. They cause so much damage and the stuff they spout is bloody dangerous.
 
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liar liar

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Was reading this morning she has been barred from ITV for having a row with Dermot O'dreary on TM on Friday when they were talking about vaccinations.
Perhaps Alison Hammond should be next. She should read what is on her autocue and only that. Her opinions are potentially life-threatening.
 
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Msanya36

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I genuinely think that anti vaxers should be strung up from the nearest lamp post. Most of them are personality disordered weirdos who like to feel superior by believing that they are in on some kind of big ‘secret’ that that rest of us ‘sheep’ don’t know about. They cause so much damage and the stuff they spout is bloody dangerous.
Wow ok, nice to meet you too!! So your one of these that anyone who questions what's happening and is more careful than you is an Anti-vaxxer??? Ok I have a B.Sc in Veterinary Nursing, done many the exam on Vaccination and given many pet vaccines, it's the Cornerstone of a Veterinary Practices income so DUH we believe in the Science behind vaccines, I am up to date on my Tetanus and Hepatitis, brilliant fantastic!! Point is tho those vaccines have been well trialled, FOR YEARS!! TB Vaccine an 80 year Safety Record. Animal Vaccines also strong safety records and I can guarantee if an Equine Vaccine was resulting in UNEXPLAINED Blood Clots in a vaccine where it was not observed in trials means IT WAS NOT SEEN in Trials, ergo not trialled/tested for long enough!!!! If said Vaccine was resulting in blood clots in an animal expected to be an Elite Athlete not to mind if the horse was down and sick for days afterwards, there would be absolute UPROAR!!!! It would be career ending for that animal! There would be uproar and the product would be immediately pulled off the market? Pharmaceutical companies were given free rein to produce this wayyyy too fast and im sorry it's the shitest product ever brought to market!! And if it makes you uncomfortable that people question it, than I'm so glad it makes u uncomfortable!!!!
 
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Mark81

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I'm not a massive fan of Beverly Turner but banning people with opposing views is a dangerous slop that we have already started to go down.

I'm not anti vaxxer, I've had both my jabs, but tbh I think people willingly taking any medication without pausing for thought or just have a 'medicine will save me' attitude are just as bad as anti vaxxers. People should take responsibility for their own health (why smoking is so frowned upon but obesity seems to be normalised is beyond me). There are legitimate reasons we should be cautious, there is still a lot of unknown about long term affects, and it isn't a 100% guarantee of safety. For me it was statistically better to get the vaccine than risk covid. But look at how the roll out has gone on, one minute it's safe and blood clots are a minor thing and dismissing Europe concern, next thing a large portion of the country are being offered an alternative.
 
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PartOfMe

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They've got 3 kids together, why do they want to snap back at each other in newspaper articles? I thought they would be more dignified than that!
 
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Flowergirl14

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I feel this is why we are still in lockdown, because others will not take the vaccine.
Fine, stay locked in at home if you want; but let the rest of us out... you selfish bastards.
Let my kids go to school and university.
They will be paying for your selfishness for years to come.
 
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PartOfMe

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I agree, but Beverly started this by writing her long article in The Times. They should have just released a single sentence statement and left it at that. But I suspect Beverly wanted some attention to get more work. They both like attention.
 
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Gym&Tonic

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Just wow, your an absolute disgrace? I've a f**k* Bachelor's of Science in a Veterinary profession ???? Hello!!! And I'm not an anti-vaxxer for questioning THIS one, such an id**t??
Without sounding rude, I’m not sure of the relevance of your having a degree in veterinary nursing in relation to this discussion? This is the second time you’ve mentioned it and I’m not really sure why?
 
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Emerald37

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I'm sorry but there's no way on earth irresponsible science denying covid t**its should be entertained

This is not a subject that is a matter of opinion. You either believe and trust science or you don't.

I have no time for half baked morons like this.

Sorry if that's harsh but without vaccines we would be still dying from polio, small pox and the likes so I'll stick to trusting the scientists.
 
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liar liar

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Honestly, I'm kinda with her a bit. There should be the ability to debate and question about the vaccine. I'm far from.anti vaxxer but this just shutting down is a worrying trend.

I found out this weekend a family friend was asked to have a blood test as follow up research after having had both vaccines. Turns out he had no covid antibodies in their body despite being fully vaccinated. Also reports this weekend fully vaccinated people are among the people who have recently died of the Indian variant.

I know vaccines aren't 100% protection but these things are making me wonder if there should be more transparency of what exactly people are dying from, which vaccine did they have etc.
There is a thread on Covid and surprisingly enough it is not under Celebrity. We wouldn't have the Delta variant in such numbers if these people had vaccinated in the first place and hadn't been allowed to travel back from India and Pakistan with such a large notice period. Personally, I have absolutely no time whatsoever for anti-vaxxers.
 
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Emerald37

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I don't disagree, but also science isn't always right, if it was we wouldn't see advances through history. Also scientists themselves haven't been able to agree on multiple aspects of the pandemic. It's wrong to just blindly trust. Even with the Oxford vaccine scientists were saying it was safe, then a few weeks down the line a whole portion of the population are recommended against having it.

Don't get me wrong, on balance I'm pro the vaccine and have had both of mine. But to not even question it? That is worryingly ignorant.
Worryingly ignorant. Absolute lol.
The questioning of the vaccine is based on illogical conspiracy theory nonsense with no scientific rationale behind it

No anti vaxxer has any medical or scientific knowledge and they are platforming lies.

Will people ever stop making out like they are victims of censorship. They are not.
 
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Msanya36

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Worryingly ignorant. Absolute lol.
The questioning of the vaccine is based on illogical conspiracy theory nonsense with no scientific rationale behind it

No anti vaxxer has any medical or scientific knowledge and they are platforming lies.

Will people ever stop making out like they are victims of censorship. They are not.
Just wow, your an absolute disgrace? I've a f**k* Bachelor's of Science in a Veterinary profession ???? Hello!!! And I'm not an anti-vaxxer for questioning THIS one, such an id**t??
 
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rivermonster

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Was reading this morning she has been barred from ITV for having a row with Dermot O'dreary on TM on Friday when they were talking about vaccinations.
 
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Ellsbells123

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I just think it’s sad that it had to be so public, announce a divorce but why go into anything else? It’s a private time and the, children, especially don’t need to reading about it.
 
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Mark81

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I'm sorry but there's no way on earth irresponsible science denying covid t**its should be entertained

This is not a subject that is a matter of opinion. You either believe and trust science or you don't.

I have no time for half baked morons like this.

Sorry if that's harsh but without vaccines we would be still dying from polio, small pox and the likes so I'll stick to trusting the scientists.
I don't disagree, but also science isn't always right, if it was we wouldn't see advances through history. Also scientists themselves haven't been able to agree on multiple aspects of the pandemic. It's wrong to just blindly trust. Even with the Oxford vaccine scientists were saying it was safe, then a few weeks down the line a whole portion of the population are recommended against having it.

Don't get me wrong, on balance I'm pro the vaccine and have had both of mine. But to not even question it? That is worryingly ignorant.
 
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Ellsbells123

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I agree, but Beverly started this by writing her long article in The Times. They should have just released a single sentence statement and left it at that. But I suspect Beverly wanted some attention to get more work. They both like attention.
I totally agree, very much the attention seekers!
 
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Emerald37

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Just wow, your an absolute disgrace? I've a f**k* Bachelor's of Science in a Veterinary profession ???? Hello!!! And I'm not an anti-vaxxer for questioning THIS one, such an id**t??
Nice to see anti vaxxers are able to debate respectfully. And you wonder why anti vaccers are viewed with disdain

What exactly are you questioning?
Have you ever smoked or taken drugs or eaten fast food because I can tell you now these idiots are probably out every week injesting God knows what then moaning about a vaccine

That's the last word I have to say on the subject so I suggest putting me on ignore and I'll do the same to you with pleasure
 
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Yel

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Sure it's just about the children Bev, never sure if these people even believe what they say. Addicted to the attention they get.
 
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petitspois

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If James Cracknell was advised to not spend time with his children alone (as she has said in several articles) then does he see much of them at all these days?

I really think both of them are really right-wing, opinionated arseholes to be honest.
 
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