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Oh... looks like a fashion post from a year ago. Look at the brands, ladies:

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Really, aija? 🤔
 
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laurensanchez

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Ha,ha, "cultural identity" . I am quite sure this is nothing Anna has or is able to understand. Was it ever a topic in her courses? I would be surprised...
She's not even Swedish so has no connection to the country's literary or artistic heroes. She can't even say that she has read any of the great Russian texts.

I love the way you put it. I love men as well though I think that they are very much spoiled and feminized by today's women. This makes many of them unattractive to me.

Another thing that Anna teaches, about being a sugar baby, is very dangerous. This sugar baby explosion has very much warped men's minds. Up until only a few years ago the perverted old married man next door had to restrain himself to a fantasy in his head. Nowadays he can have his way with a 19 year old student on Seeking Arrangement and she will be too embarrassed to even ask for the money up front. At least escorts and prostitutes have something to show at the end.

Women don't realise the power they have. We as a collective have allowed men to get away with so much that there is now no incentive for them to be gentlemen. All they have to do is show up. They can download an app and have sex with a woman within an hour. This is the definition of low value.

Sorry for the rant.
 
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vikka

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Let me get this straight. Aija teaches women that men have to pay for everything, "take on the financial load" and frankly teaches female toxicity (male toxicity exists, but so does female and this is a perfect example). Yet, Aija's SO told her he won't be paying for everything and that she must have some sort of career/income stream, so Aija resorted to scamming women by telling them the man has to pay for everything, yet Aija's man won't pay for everything? Did I get this right, my dear elegant ladies?

I can't get over "ditch your average Joe". I assume by "average Joe" she means a working man, who maybe doesn't work in business but as plumber and doesn't earn a shyte tonne. Let me just say I'd rather take a plumber who earns less than me (and vocational/manual labour jobs like plumber and carpenters can earn quite a lot actually) than some big shot who doesn't treat me right. She should teach that "levelling up" means being with a man, who respects you, loves you, treats you right, shares household chores and is there for you and (if you have kids) takes care of the kids (without calling it bloody "babysitting"). Give me a man like that and I don't care whether he earns more or less than me or wears fancy clothes.

Oh and on coffee dates. I remember very well when it was recommended to women to go on coffee dates, because if the guy is a creep it makes for a quick and easy escape. But yeah dear elegant ladies, listen to Aija on how to live life when she herself doesn't live it like that.

These deluded women would ditch a perhaps great guy just because he'll take them on a "coffee date" or asks you to pay half for a weekend away? Wtf?

I have an urgent question. We all know basic bodily needs like farting are not elegant. What do you, my dear elegant ladies, do at night when you sleep to keep those night farts in from escaping? What are your elegant methods? Do butt plugs help?
 
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tacokitten

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Today I thought about how weird (funny? sad?) it would be if all the "average joes" would suddenly act like their SOA-girlfriends.

"Bros, help me out: I recently decided that I want to level up and live a more masculine life. I realized that my girlfriend is just average. She's nice and all but only has a boring office job, hardly ever dresses up and doesn't wear make-up all the time. I told her that I realized that I deserve only the best in life. My girlfriend is not overweight but I think that she should shed a few pounds and work out more often. She didn't like that at all.
I told her that I deserve to be treated as the king I am.
What are more masculine things that I can do? I thought about going to the strip club more often, play poker and buy a faster car. Not sure if my girlfriend will like that but that's just the masculine thing to do."


I know there are men who think like that but image your partner would act like that one day - suddenly your relationship and you as a person are no longer good (slim, fit, intelligent, funny,...) enough. Of course, sometimes two lives don't align any more and ending the relationship is the right thing to do but with Anna's students it's like "the great awakening of elegance", they enroll into the course and suddenly only a man who can afford a Birkin is good enough for them.
 
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wineandtea13

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Hi Ladies,

I'm new! Sorry if this post is too long! I'm a writer on the side, and being concise is something I'm still working on haha!

Although I'm a newbie to you all, I've been following the older threads for a few weeks now! After reading and discovering everything, I'm embarrassed to admit that I actually was one of the women that bought the courses. First, I want to thank you all for your honesty and detective work! The things I've seen here are really eye-opening (and entertaining).

I know it's been said before on here, but the only not positive thing that worries me is the identities of those girls not being blurred out on the shared posts. I know some of you are saying, "well if they're stupid enough to buy it, they deserve to be exposed" etc, or perhaps you think all the girls are the same type, so I really wanted to comment just to give you an idea of what can make a different type of woman buy that course. (Also wanted to add that I feel like when the SOA women see names posted publicly here, it's more likely for them to see Anna as an angel and they won't even get to the point of reading the things about her on here to discover the truth, so I feel like if we post while protecting the identities, it would help get the message across more).

To start with, Anna has A LOT of followers, and not all are African or SE Asian. She has many Western Europeans, many North Americans, and lots of Australians. She has 750K followers on youtube, ~250K on insta, 32K in the free lounge and ~2K in the SOA group. With all these followers, I can truly say not all of them are the less attractive, socially awkward types. There are many like the gorgeous Jamaican one AB interviewed who started the clothing brand (what was her name?), and many other well-dressed, well educated, and genuinely entrepreneurial women. Of course, there are also the sugar baby types, who I think followed her under the old branding (which I didn't know about until later), and the nerdy/socially confused types (but some of them do seem sweet! I think they just need exposure/guidance). I've noticed this last type does actually post more, although all types of women comment and help each other, which I do enjoy seeing. Of course, I won't lie, I am completely mortified and cringe when there are the women who blindly defend her, or are obsessive and seem to worship her (although I would still hate for their private life/pics/names to be so public).

Anyway, so to get to my case which will hopefully help in understanding a different perspective of how Anna has been so successful recently.

I actually grew up in an "affluent" international city where I went to a small British private school, and I currently live in a different affluent international city in a different country. I come from an old-money family on my mom's side, and though my dad's side of the family is highly educated and financially comfortable, I suppose they don't count as old money like my mother's. But don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not running around with Rothschilds, nor is my family the type with a $10 million yacht or anything. I'm tri-lingual (once upon a time this was quad-lingual, but adulting has taken so many skills from me!), I play the piano, I dance ballroom and latin dance (salsa & bachata, way before I discovered Anna lol), I've written a novel which I'm in the process of querying to agents, and I'm in a top tech company. On top of that, I'm fairly attractive--although I admit I don't have the look of/not on the level of those Sugar Baby Eastern European IG girls)--and I certainly do not have a hard time with men (although in the past I've sadly fallen for the wrong type and I've been too giving/trusting, which I think is partly what led here). Pre-covid I was very active socially in my city and went out often. I'm in my mid twenties.

Why am I saying all of this? Because I wanted to really show that not all the girls in the group are the nerdy type, the desperate type, the uneducated type, the poor-background type etc. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Anna at all, I think her scamming is horrible and I feel like an idiot for buying into it, and I'm so glad you are all here spreading the message. But looking back, I can see what led to her success, and what led allll the many other women to buy the courses.

So anyway, what makes the more social, attractive, and somewhat intelligent girls buy the course?

I think it's a combo of 1) going through a hard phase in life 2) being naive, or not researching 3) feeling like they need motivation/a push/ to be reminded of their goals 4) being pulled in by the whole male/female dynamic she talks about 5) Anna B's incredibly good marketing skills (they got me and that was my degree, I even knew what she was doing!), and the biggest; 6) the timing of the course release!

So then what made someone like me susceptible? The biggest factor for me (and I think someone mentioned it as a theory before) is that Anna launched her second during the beginning chunk of the COVID-19 pandemic. Right before she announced it, she also used a common tactic: the "the course is going offline, this is your last chance" tactic. The COVID factor is massive. At the time, I even knew she was using a sneaky marketing tactic (and I lost respect for her). But mindset wise, I was having SUCH a hard time with the pandemic, anything that felt like it would help keep me emotionally afloat was worth it (I hadn't started seeing a therapist then to cope emotionally).

The city where I live was and is badly affected by the pandemic. I'm so far from my family, most of my friends had left the big city during COVID, I was going through a ROUGH breakup that did a number on me. I felt like the hard time I was having coping with the pandemic was pushing me back to this toxic relationship--where I felt like I behaved so naively--to cope with the loneliness. I couldn't go back to my family because of border closures. I found Anna Bey on youtube at first, and like many people said here, she does in fact produce most of her videos very well. I did disagree with some stuff, but overall, yeah, I won't lie I liked watching them a lot and I began to like her! I feel like with what I was going through, somehow the free YT videos helped remind me to stay on track, to not lower my standards etc. I didn't google her, nor did I follow her on Insta or read the articles etc. And she often mentioned her humble and--as she called it--trashy background, so when she did or said things that were a bit eyebrow raising on the youtube vidoes, knowing her background explained it, so I didn't become suspicious yet, and I don't like to judge people's history in that sense.

Then, all of a sudden, overnight she put the old course on "last chance to buy", then only after did she announce the new course with a tiny window to buy it. DURING COVID, when so many people were isolated, the economy was struggling, there was so much uncertainty, and riots/political unrest happening in some parts of the world etc. All of these things affect people emotionally and mentally, and thinking about superficial or frivolous things, or simpler things like dating, clothes, etiquette, or self-improvement and mindset, help take you away from that.

Anyway, I had doubts even as I was buying it, and I could tell it would be overpriced, but I bought it on the last day, without time to research, and partly it was because of what I was going through and because I didn't see the other side of her on those youtube videos. Truth be told, the new course itself is not that bad content-wise (since it is a repeat of a lot of cheaper but good content), but NO, it is absolutely NOT worth $1K. I would say $250 tops (and that Elite Women Bingo is some superficial basic BS). As for the old course, I didn't really look through it well, but that was the one that had the facebook community, and although most girls are not the type I would not naturally socialize with in real life, I didn't mind that aspect as much, and I liked how it was a group of women coming together to help each other. I would say that's actually my favorite part out of everything.

Feel free to ask me anything about the types of users in the group, the course, her marketing tactics that worked etc! I'm also part Eastern Mediterranean (with some Lebanese) so I wanted to comment on my thoughts of her relationship, but this post is already way too long so I'll spare you guys for now haha!
 
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tacokitten

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Giving Anna Bey money for a course about affluence and elegance is like buying a photography course from a photographer who never shows his own photos, only images other photographers have taken 😅
"I can teach you how to take THESE STUNNING PHOTOGRAPHS and be a successful photographer! Oh but I won't show you my pictures, that's just too private."
 
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AnneLan

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The photo with her ipad posing as a business class screen is a record low, even for her. Most European business class seats dont have television and almost no difference to eco anyway, besides a bit more leg room and an empty seat in the middle. The deceit she‘s pursuing just to make sure everyone understands she‘s in business because most people associate the bug screen with bc is just disgusting. People who have made it, regardless if it‘s professionally or privately have no need whatsoever to prove anything to anyone.
It‘s all show and smoke and mirrors
 
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laurensanchez

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This! Anna just has no idea what it's like to have an equal PARTNER. And she also seems to think no woman would want to be educated and work if they had a chance to get provided by a rich man.
I'd never change my "average Joe" to some rich guy just because of money. I'm very happy to pay my share, when he does his part of the housework and so gives me more time to concentrate on my career and educating myself. And he still spoils me a lot :)
So give me one (good!) reason I should require him to pay for everything.

It's very shortsighted to only focus on money when it comes to relationships.
Western women have realised feminism is a joke.

It brought them out the home, and inside the home, men still think in their cavemen ways. This isn't true in the Scandinavian countries where Anna grew up, but it's definitely a reality in America. Women are expected to go 50/50 on the bills, on dates, but give 100 on the housework, child rearing, and sex. No wonder they want to buy this dream that a Prince Charming will save them from the drudgery.

For the vast majority of the middle class, however, it's very difficult to survive on one income. Added to that the harsh truth is that if you make more than your man he will feel emasculated. Unless he is a user, in which case he'll be happy to take your money. It's a complicated issue.

Women who follow their natural instinct to find a provider man are shamed. Modern wisdom says we are supposed to look for potential, or personality. Conversely, men are allowed to look at shallow things like attractiveness and bring nothing to the table but their penises. So a cute loser who sits on our couch while we work our butts off.

I think I understand her student demographic now. Put yourself in the place of a woman who has spent her youth pursuing career and education, and now finds she has effectively "priced herself out of the market". The men that are her peers are in less successful jobs. These men want younger, more attractive, but less accomplished, women. Anna represents false hope that they will get their happily ever after moment.

They think that Anna can help, but the reality is Anna is mid way to 40 and has accomplished nothing in her life. She has no home, not even a car, no husband, just a sandcastle of dreams and lies.
 
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severedmind

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I cannot believe someone is acting like this so openly in 2020.

I've never witnessed an actually wealthy or high society OR elegant person actually call themselves these words. They don't need to. They don't go on social media or to people "poorer" than them and brag about how they've never shopped any brand that isn't luxury. She reminds me of those men who have tiny-penis/ugly short guy snydrome and overcompensate by riding around in a flashy sportscar that they rev super loudly in busy streets. It's just pathetic.

More pathetic is that you HAVE shopped at Mango before, Aija Raty. There's proof and screenshots in this thread. You've shopped at Mango, Zara, H&M, and every other affordable, fast fashion store around that is soo beneath you now.

How can she be so smug and turn up her nose at Mango and patronize her "poor" students when the only reason she can afford all these name-brand items now is literally because her students have funded her?! I swear. Her lemmings really need to put 2 and 2 together fast. Over 1000 women paid $1000 for her course. And weeks later, she's suddenly travelling the jet set locations and wearing the monogrammed, heavy logo'd clothes of the Russian jet set babes in their 20s that she worships and stalks on social media. Now at almost 40 she's found her success...from scamming other women.

Aija now makes more income than her "partner", and he as a low tier banker who is living it up middle-class style is more than happy to play along with her scam and pretend he's the one providing these goods. Like her, he desires to be "affluent" too. He just hasn't found his scam yet.

As has been said here (and everywhere) so many times, she was never able to secure a wealthy man of status or power, despite whoring herself out for 10+ years. She was an "exotic dancer" at a trashy club, she worked part time jobs to botch her face and afford rent and she was an (unsuccessful) escort. And now she's successful finally in scamming women who don't understand that someone wearing a Gucci bag, Cartier love bracelet and Hermes oran sandals may actually be in the same tax bracket as them, or not much higher. She can't teach you how to identify true wealth because she has no idea. In her mind, he's wearing a Rolex= he's rich ladies, no rolex = he's not a provider, ladies, he's poor.

Someone please remove the blindfolds from her follower's eyes because seriously...she's not even trying to hide her scam or snobbish attitute now. This is getting out of hand.
 
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tacokitten

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I just remembered that she has a video on Hotel breakfast etiquette and room service - in the video she said when you order room service, you should be properly dressed when the food arrives so it's not an akward situation... and yesterday there she was, getting room service while wearing a bathrobe 😅
 
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Crazy_chick

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Another proof that she’s behind all of the fan accounts:
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Otherwise how is it possible that this page have this picture of her? This photo was taken recently in Bodrum (mismatched white swimsuit and granny curtain) but it wasn’t featured in her stories, nor her IG. Did she post it in her FB groups? Or did this Jetsetbabeschoolfan hacked her phone? 🐥
 
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oliviasoon1

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On 'IS THIS ELEGANT?' posts:
The fb group has become the 'is this elegant' conveyer. Women are not artificial structures - good manners and personality/character are the components that form a woman's elegance, other than that... I can't find the right words to define this encouraged cult mentality so I'll leave examples of some of the recent queries:

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Hey ladies! What exercise do you think is elegant and how do you manage to exercise in order to keep yourself healthy?

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Hello Dear Elegant Ladies,
Is it right for an elegant lady to ask her date to take her pictures, does it look like she is impressed by the exclusive restaurant or it is a normal thing to do?


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Is it elegant to start the conversation first via instagram?


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Hi ladies,
I'm trying to decide which color would be the most elegant color for my new iPhone 11. I'm leaning towards white. Red is also an option.
Anna has mentioned red as an elegant color to use. What phones do you ladies think is elegant?


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Have you ever had a lipstick case? I really want to buy this but I'm wandering whether it is elegant or not to have it. I also don't know which color of these look soft and elegant.

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CherryBerry25

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A video by one of her students. All these students are trying to be Anna by making YouTube videos on the elite's habits.

Like Anna, they are making videos about the elite when they themselves are not elite.

Also she spends 50% of her salary on bills, but she doesn't even pay rent?! This SOA must be a huge cost for her.

Within the first 30 second of the video, she says she’s currently receiving unemployment benefits, living with her grandmother, pays no rent but yet the title of the video is: How to Budget Like the Elite? :oops:🧐 Ladies, this is seriously disturbing.
 
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severedmind

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Sorry but look at these pictures. This place is empty!! She's so damn desperate to live and document her dream 'jet set babe' lifestyle that she's going off with the money made from her new course to 5 star hotels in the middle of a pandemic. Off season, too but still. Wow.


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She's happy because she can finally say she's been where Ann Andres and her other obsessions have once been. This is kind of insane and I almost pity her. What elegant or high society woman acts like this? These are the actions of someone who just discovered this lifestyle and wants to show off on social media for validation that they've "made it". Further proof she was never living this lifestyle until she started making money from her course. Her students are her providers.

Also, I feel like the only reason she's saying this is a work trip: because if she were actually part of the "elite" high society and truly affluent, she wouldn't be travelling off season (to be fair they would have/rent their own properties to go to, they wouldn't need to stay at the hot spots of cashed up tourists/jet set babes + their sponsors). But she has to, because all of these hotels she's been staying at are booked out and expensive otherwise.

Anyway this is all to say I'm feeling genuinely unsettled. I hope scamming women who've taken loans and spent their entire savings during a pandemic to afford your scam course is worth it.
 
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