A Pinch of Nom - Kay Featherstone and Kate Allinson

[Justbrowzin]

I have to say I love their recipes and have their book. What i can't understand is why they are extremely obese? Not in a mean way, just a curious way because they aren't a little bit chubby they are dangerously morbidly obese. You wouldnt take diet, health or exercise advice from a morbidly obese person would you? They are making a lot of money from this and it seems very odd to me.

Have you ever seen a slimming world consultant ?

 

[SausageSam]

I feel I’m in the minority but I hate pinch of vom! 2 obese women who spout diet recipes stealing from other people (recipes that is) and riding on the coat tails of another successful business using their format but then play the victim when pulled up on it

Pull the other one

 

[Virgin Media Fan]

My god!! I didn't know what they looked like so I've just googled their photo!! Are you kidding me!!

These people have released a 'healthy eating' book!! Fml!!

 

[swipe_up]

Picture from tonight’s bookseller awards. I don’t care if they’re big but it seems wrong to be selling weightloss books - almost fraud?

Fuuuuuuuuuuck me

Well they’re clearly not replacing double cream with fucking quark are they

Sheeeeeeeeeesh

 

[Skinny Bae]

I've just stumbled upon this thread and have read it all with interest

I am a past moderator for pinch of nom and had been working with them for a couple of years. I have been on weekends away with them too

They have several of my recipes on the website and also taken lots of my ideas for the books, including the third one which is due out in December

They promised payment for my recipes but despite several requests for their terms of business , that never materialised

They offered me a job too !! Then the week before I was due to start, removed me from moderating

They have now booted and blocked me from the group

This is the last picture I have of Kay taken last year

 

[Meg78]

Have you ever seen a slimming world consultant ?

Hands down my favourite comment on Tattle ever

 

[Meg78]

Totally disagree with you, two overweight women encouraging people not to end up where they are maybe?

I'm morbidly obese and I'd love nothing more to work with overweight kids. As a child I was forced in to see half a dozen stick thin dieticians up until the age of 13. I used to sit pretending to listen to them and take absolutely notice whatsoever , my regular thought was you don't have a clue. I had no respect for them. At 14 I went to a slimming club run by a lady called Ivy. At her heaviest she'd weighed 28st, she had a big cardboard cut out of herself at her heaviest at the front of the room, she was down to 15st when I joined. I worshipped the woman, she got through to me like nobody else could, she understood what it was like to be me. I was gutted when 3 months later she was diagnosed with terminal cancer and she left.

People who are in or have been in the same boat have an empathy and understanding that you don't get from somebody that has never been there.

I disagree with your rationale here completely. I do agree that someone having walked in your shoes who gives advice can be an inspiring influence, but they haven’t overcome their demons, what makes them qualified to give advice to others on doing so? That’s like an NHS Quit Smoking Advisor who smokes 40 a day whilst preaching to others, they’ve struggled with the habit so they’ll have empathy, but clearly their advice isn’t working or they’d be successfully doing it themselves. That’s not inspiring it’s hypocritical.

 

[Onepotatotwopotato]

I did find it weird that they're obese seeing as they've obviously been doing the plan and "healthy eating" for a while.. Not in a nasty way just makes me wonder about it all

 

[MadGal]

Good! Most of their recipes are stolen anyway so it’s good they’ve had a bit of a telling off for thinking they can get away with using Syn values! Now slimming world it’s time to stop allowing these big SW accounts to make money pretending to be following the plan

 

[Prodcon21]

This is a tough one for me. Yes they gave syn values - but they are encouraging people to cook and eat healthy, which is what the plan is all about.

Whereas all these insta accounts (Harry etc) are misrepresenting the plan, and SW sit back and do sweet FA! Either come down on everyone, or no one.

To me, the insta accounts should have been first in the firing line!

 

[Lymony]

TLDR: the pon facebook group is run by idiots who kick you out if you don't toe the party line.

Ugh, I just need somewhere is have a rant about this. I actually quite like the pinch of nom recipes. I bought the books before I realised they were potentially stolen or that they were both even bigger than I am, but i do use them regularly and they are pretty nice (although need to up the seasonsing in some, especially the curries). I've also been a member of the FB group for probably about 6 months, just because i like to post my pictures and answer people's cookjng questions. I'm not even on SW, just trying to eat healthier (never used quark in my life).

I'd been slightly irritated with the group for a while, due to the cultish fanaticism that is underlying there. Some of then eat pinch of nom literally every single day of the week. There were a number of photos I tried to post which never got approved by the admins, but never any explanation as to why it just disappeared. I did get some clmment deleted with an explanation because it had a swear in it. Not abusive, just emphatic, but fair enough. But the comment just got deleted, no more said. I continued to contribute both my own posts and comment attempting to help others

So yesterday, someone asked for a buttermilk pancake recipe and I sent a link to the Slimming Eats recipe for pancakes. Happened to be scrolling later and noticed my comment had been deleted, but i got no notification for it, just disappeared. This really irritated me, so i posted another comment saying that "I thought this group was about supporting others, not pretending no other websites with recipes even exist". Then a separate comment either the same link. Less than ten minutes later, the link comment was deleted, this time I got a notification. Next thing I know, I go on FB this morning for a browse, notice that no posts from that group are appearing on my feed. I'VE BEEN BLOCKED. For daring to question the great and powerful PON.

Sorry this got so long, I'm just irrationally annoyed about it, and this is the only place I can find that seems to have real people talking about the realities of them two, not just starry eyed "OMG UR SO BRILLIANT, HOW MANY SYNS IN A BUCKET OF QUARK, IF I ROLL A SCOTCH EGG IN RAW SMASH ITS AMAHZING AND HAS NO CALORIES". I bought their book, they have my money already, can I not just talk like a real person on a fb group without getting kicked out by a load of SW zombies, because they're cranky from not getting enough hifi bars.

 

[Wowwwwwwwww]

My god!! I didn't know what they looked like so I've just googled their photo!! Are you kidding me!!

These people have released a 'healthy eating' book!! Fml!!

Mate, fuck right off. Is that them? Really?

 

[megsmagoo]

Oh yeah big time! To be fair they’ve done well to get away with it for so long, I think as soon as people start making money slimming world are on them. Surprised they don’t hit the Instagram accounts that damage their reputation

 

[BeeYondGobsmacked]

Long time lurker, first time signing up and posting. I don’t know how to reply to a previous comment, but I feel for @Skinny Bae having worked with them.
I know(knew) them personally from before PoN and can confirm that they are the two most vile, manipulative, bullying, pieces of shit I’ve ever encountered.
Kay in particular is utterly controlling, and intimidating and uses threats to get people to back down from exposing them.

 

[kadykal95]

They blocked me on FB after I pointed out that their syn free Gravy was more calories than the real thing and to just have that

I’m a huge 2CC’s fan, so much more relatable

Slimmingeats is also really good!

 

[Nonnymouse]

Im', torn on the subject of these two. I mean, I know Slimming World inside out, know the syn value of practically every food in Tesco and Lidl (I'm cheap lol), can make about 15 different slimming world pizzas, batch cook slimming world meals most sundays, and can tell you 100% how to 'do it' blah blah blah. Yet I;m still overweight (not to their standards but I could do with osing another 2 stone). I KNOW the rules, the pseudo science and have been asked a few times to be a consultant (more for my money than my knowledge, i'm sure, but that's another story). I know them, but I still fail to stick to them at times. Currently i'm sat at a desk having drunk no water, eaten no speed and am eating a Twirl and drinking full sugar Coke.

So I don't think the main issue (for me) is them being morbidly obese, although I was shocked to see that they were the size they were when they launched the first book.

My issue with them is their attitude. The self entitlement, the aggressive comments in their FB group, the booting of people that disagree or don't post links to THEIR recipes, but maybe to Slimming Eats or even the SW website itself. The way I have heard that they treat people working with them, the stealing of recipes, their view that everything is about THEM.

They've built a great community on the Slimming World name - they can try and deny that all they want, but it's what they did. The majority of people that were in the group when I was (I left a while ago) were following Slimming World, their recipes were titled Syn Free and Slimming World Friendly. And they made money from it.

L:ike Jack Monroe, they'll tell you that they give away loads of recipes on their website for free - they won't tell you they make thousands from affiliate links and the ads that litter that god awful website, and all the crap you have to wade through to even get to a recipe. Their 'followers' think they do it from the goodness of their heart and the book success is what they deserve. I don't doubt they've put work into it, but it's not from the goodness of their hearts and because they want to help people. I suspect it's because it makes them money and running a website and a FB group is easier than running a restaurant.

They didn't want to play ball with SW - fair enough. But they knew as soon as they overtly began making money, they'd have to either play ball or give up the SW tie in. It's interesting that Two Chubby Cubs have books out yet are still allowed to use the SW name on their website...

Anyway TLDR - this was just a long diatribe to say that their attitude and way of treating people makes me dislike them more than their weight.

 

[Ellabella]

Laura Davis Head of operations

Christ her Linkedin pic is a bit different!

 

[Meg78]

I usually cringe and avoid any judgement on someone else’s physical size given I’m not the skinniest.... BUT, If those two are following their own advice and cooking techniques, after several years, and still remain morbidly obese, then by george am I going to merrily judge them for it!! What hypocrites!

 

[Skinny Bae]

Same
@Skinny Bae posted earlier in this thread that she had been a moderator for them so maybe can fill us in?

Sorry, I've only just seen this comment. I blocked everything to do with PoN as it was really starting to get me down following the way in which I was treated by them.

It's interesting to hear that all of the popular recipes that people enjoy are actually tweaked versions of my original ideas. They know enough about copyright law to change a few things round and hey presto there's sweet FA that you can do about it. I spoke with Siobhan from Slimming eats at great length with her as I know that many of her trusted recipes have been copied, same with 2cc. They are so bloody obvious.

All my posts on the group have been deleted and the recipes used in their "new/latest" book. There's 6 or so of my recipes STILL on their website, none Of which I received any form of promised payment for and there's a FOURTH book planned too - due for release just in time for Christmas

Going back to what happened between them and SW. Basically Kay's ego is bigger than her arse and didn't want to be controlled by an organisation that's bigger and better than them. I can not say too much about it as they always have minions willing to report back for a pat on the head.

2cc have received numerous legally threatening letters from their lawyers regarding the FB group and comments about PoN - freedom of speech doesn't exist in PoN land unless it's ALL praise - let's face it for an arse that big - it needs a lorra lorra praise to even touch the surface !! They won't tolerate anything that could potentially "damage the brand" and it's my guess that this is the reason behind the very popular 2cc FB group being taken down

2cc and slimming eats deserve to be recognised for their hard work in providing lots of healthy recipe ideas for FREE and are certainly not in this totally for the money. They have also been around a lot longer than PoN !

 

[Wowwwwwwwww]

Good! Most of their recipes are stolen anyway so it’s good they’ve had a bit of a telling off for thinking they can get away with using Syn values! Now slimming world it’s time to stop allowing these big SW accounts to make money pretending to be following the plan

PETITION TO STOP THE FAKE AS FUCK SW ACCS #OFFPLANCLAN