AppleBeeY

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I’ve been following this story everywhere I can because, unfortunately, my early years were very similar to Arthur.

Being locked in wardrobes, starved, hair cut off, beaten was the norm for me and my siblings. It didn’t stop until we got to secondary school age — then it become purely psychological instead.

For anyone who is baffled by the lack of intervention, I want to explain how people like Tustin, Hughes and my mother get away with it.

Firstly, they rule their children with an iron fist. When you beat a child for the first time, they react with extreme betrayal and avoidance. The more a child is hit, the more they start to believe it is “normal” to live like that. Once beatings start happening unpredictably, and not in response to bad behaviour, it is game over.

The child is conditioned to accept pain, and will actively protect the parent’s reputation because (a) pain is normal and (b) if it’s like this at home, how much worse could it be outside?

Secondly, people like Tustin and Hughes enforce social isolation like their lives depend on it. They do not swan around the world. They don’t invite people over to the house, or socialise willy-nilly. They barely have friends!

Abuse takes a lot of ongoing effort, and making sure there is a culture of silence and isolation in the home is one of the biggest undertakings.

The few people they do “approve” of are also quite similar to them. In my mother’s case, all her friends were OK with physical discipline so the excuse-making was there from the get go. If they called her a monster, they’d have to admit they were part monster themselves first. And when do people ever do that?


Thirdly and most importantly — most people are terrified of them. They are just as abusive and volatile to adults as they are to their own children.

Not many people have faith in the RSPCC. And when they do, they don’t have faith in themselves because so much of the abuse is secretive and explained away by accidents. Think about it.

How many articles have you read about exemplary social workers vs articles about a social worker who missed a fatal clue?

When was the last time you thought: “I trust the foster system in the UK“?


My teachers advocated for me by letting me sign my own letters, instead of sending them by post, because they didn’t want to be the reason I never came back.

And my grandparents were behind some of the happiest days of our childhood. McDonald’s twice in a day, sleeping at 1am, pillow forts in the living room with the cousins, sweets until we threw up.


They COULD have reported it but it would have resulted in being banned from seeing us or withdrawn from school, followed by a bone-shattering beating for us anyway. So they gave us little bits of happiness and safety instead, hoping we’d be reunited properly as adults (we were).

I 100% believe in reporting child abuse on sight, but the sad truth is that things often get worse before they get better, if ever.

Even in Arthur’s case, a report was made but his life was still cruelly taken because parents are given endless chances.

Where I live now, if my neighbour hit my child, they would go to jail. If they hit their own, nothing would happen.

No one wants to go against them, not even the system.

And that’s how you end up with stories like Arthur, Baby P and so many more.
 
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Padparadascha

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She's a mother who's son suffered horrendous abuse at the hands of evil. She's as deserving of our utmost sympathy as any other bereaved mother.

She doesn't need internet folk to point out that had she made different choices in her life, she might have been there to protect Arthur. I'm sure that will play on her mind every single day.

But she is in no way to blame for what those two evil bastards did to a child they were supposed to be looking after
 
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avabella

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I don't think it's fair to call out the hairdresser and her partner. It wasn't them that was abusing Arthur. His own grandmother reported them to social services and got nowhere, I doubt they would of got further than them. The only people who deserve slating are TH and ET
You know, I may have agreed with you at one point on this.

That is, until I realised that Arthur was in their house the DAY BEFORE he died. Looking the same as he did in that CCTV. And that sealed the deal for me. They should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

Just because they weren't the ones abusing Arthur doesn't mean they didn't have a role to play. That's an absurd thing to say.
 
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avabella

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You cannot be serious, hun? This tragedy would never have happened if she hadn't murdered that man. She has some blame as well.
Did you read my post?
Firstly I don’t believe that Olivia murdering that man directly led to Arthur being murdered, that’s ludicrous. How was Olivia to know that evil would walk into Arthur’s life and he would end up murdered?
Secondly, she’s serving her time for her crime. Putting her crime aside, her only child has been abused and brutally murdered. How could anyone *not* feel sympathy for her, as a mother?
 
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LittleMy

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At the end of the day the only two people responsible for Arthur’s death were the two creatures sentenced today. Olivia is not on trial for her son’s death and is entitled to express her pain just like any other grieving mother would. She is serving her time for the crime she committed, and I’m sure she must feel enough guilt for not being there for him without randoms on the internet pointing the finger.
 
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Jen667

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Oh god that video will haunt me. The fact that folding his bedding is the first thing he does, the second he awakes speaks volumes.
I would actually pay someone to beat the living shit out of those two in prison. seriously
 
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thegirlscout

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Look at us, a bunch of strangers but we’ve cared more about Arthur than his father or ET did. If there is another life beyond this, I hope Arthur can see how much he is loved and how much of an impact he has made.
 
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I personally knew Emma, she was the year above me in school, she’s always been odd and evil
In school she cried out for attention.
I remember bumping into her over the shops, she had her daughter with her who I knew from being over her Facebook then a little boy, I asked who’s it was as she hadn’t mentioned having a younger son and she told me it was her son but he never got a mention it’s like he didn’t exist but her daughter was the apple of her eye. (she can be over heard in one of the voice recordings online that she would cuddle Arthur)
I knew she had met Tom but I didn’t know she had a step son either and she didn’t see her older 2 boys so I wonder if she had deep issues about boys, she clearly hated Arthur.
I think death would be the easy way out
for Emma. She tried to commit suicide by jumping off the local car park after a dispute trying to see her older
Lads but there was a reason she couldn’t.
She would want that, she’s tried multiple times but she should be made to live, a long suffering life where she’s tortured every single day and not let her escape.

dear prisoners of
HMP Peterborough please lace every
Meal with salt.
Make her live a living hell
She don’t deserve a single second of happiness ever again.
 
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Ibrokethegoddamnwheel

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After reading about Olivia’s case, I disagree that she killed in cold blood. It’s not as black and white as that.

I have sympathy for her and I make no apology for it.
 
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ahnowted

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I'm sorry but if you see a child so damaged that you have to hold a glass of water to his lips for him to drink, and are then aware that this act needs to be hidden from the parents... yeah you fucking call somebody.
 
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Crazydiamond 💎

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ET is one evil jealous witch.
jealous of poor Arthur . Her total fabrications about him hitting her etc leave me furious! His weak( in one respect) father is a piece of shit.
My dearest Mama was like her. Jealous of a kind word from my dad. Jealous if he was nice to his own children. It had to be all about her, always. How I and my sister survived my childhood , I have no idea . Of multiple siblings, we were singled out. I recall being asked clearly after many particular batterings being asked by my dearest mama to check my sister was alive. Yes. Truthfully. That happened so many times. I can imagine what that poor sweet boy went through. It’s painful to even write this as I have it all locked away. I sincerely hope they are both locked away for the rest of their lives. Poor little lad. It just breaks my heart really. 🙁
 
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heatmagazine

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There isn't a 6 year old in the land that could behave so challengingly for me to feed them 6 tsp of salt, starve them of food and drink, torture them with weird standing rituals and pressure holds and/or give them a catastrophic brain injury. For them to drag his name through the mud implying he was that insufferable he deserved such violence and prolonged abuse is abhorrent. They murdered that child and he’s not even had a funeral yet and been laid to rest! They are no better than each other. They both put him through that! The worst thing is, they didn’t even have to have him there! His extended family wanted him and he could of lived with them.
 
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Den

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I have never been so distressed by anything in my life. I just cannot understand how two adults could be so cruel to such a beautiful boy. It's beyond my comprehension..I am grieving for him like I grieved for my own father. It breaks my heart to think he thought he was unloved. What I find really distressing is the hairdresser on more than two occasions was happy to take Tustins money while the poor boy stood there for hours on end. Why didn't she say something, do something. There's no excuse. The hairdresser's husband apparently snuck the child a glass of water and he could barely hold it and was afraid to drink it. Poor Arthur was dead hours later! It's just sick and heartbreaking. So many people should be held accountable for not helping him. I hope those two evil humans are tortured to within an inch of their lives every day while they are in prison, even that's too good for them!
 
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catlady29

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It really haunts me to think of Arthurs mum, yes she commited manslaughter, she's paid a far higher price than others who have done the same crime. Looking at her back story, she had a really good start in life, well educated and managed to go to uni, something along the way went wrong and she ended up on drugs and alcohol and commited that crime. Pictures paint a thousand words, and you can see in his and her eyes that they were a happy little team from the pics in the dm, he looked well cared for, clean and happy. I imagine that Olivia has no doubt had help for her alcohol issue and the drugs whilst in prison, she must be back to herself now and completely bereft at what happened to her baby whilst in the "care" of his father, she doesn't deserve this, and from one mother to another I have sympathy for her.
 
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The footage of the poor boy saying how no one will feed him and no one loves him will haunt me forever. He must've been so, so scared and sad. I have a 5 year old son and the thought of him having and understanding those thoughts..... I've cried over this story.

I usually buy a toy for a child in poverty of pain at Christmas. Yesterday I found a charity 'Secret Santa' where you donate a sum of money and they will deliver a meal or appropriate toy to a child in need. However, you can do this in someones name, so I dedicated my gift to little Arthur, and hope wherever his soul is, he is surrounded by love, fun and laughter. Poor, poor little boy.
 
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Delia Smith

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I agree the hairdresser and partner could have given Arthur a lifeline. They had a chance to do *something*. Anything. Imagine seeing a child who was begging for a drink, gasping, and he could not even hold a glass of water to his mouth as he was so weak? Alarm bells? A child who was showing signs of his body shutting down?

Imagine seeing a dog in the same state. You would not let it suffer, no way. Why did they not call someone.
 
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avabella

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I think the thing that haunts me about Arthur’s case is that he had a relatively normal life before. His school say he was a bright and bubbly boy and certainly from the few photos we’ve seen, he looks a wee cheeky chappy. So he knew love. He knew how he was being treated was wrong. He just couldn’t do anything about it. And how bloody terrifying that must have been.
 
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Coconutclub

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Are you being serious? What kind of Mother would do that in the first place (knowing they've got a young child in their care who was relying on them)?

She obviously didn't give a second's thought to Arthur when she was was taking those drugs, staying in an abusive relationship and then killing her partner in cold blood.

I hope she feels really guilty as she should. What a pathetic excuse for a Mother. She failed that boy and contributed to his death and doesn't deserve an ounce of sympathy
That’s not how drug addiction and abusive relationships work - if only things were that simple 🙄. No one would choose to be abused, women don’t ‘stay’ in DV situations they are ‘stuck’ in them. Same with drugs- nobody chooses to be a drug addict- no one would choose that way of life.

Olivia’s case is complicated, for sure, but the rhetoric you are using around her drug addiction and relationship is naive. Perhaps just be thankful that you don’t understand either.
 
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