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SuperFlyingPigs said:

Harry & Meghan #603 This is not just any betrayal, this is a Spencer betrayal

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This is genius! May I suggest one tweak?
Harry & Meghan #603 This is not just any betrayal, this is a Markles & Spencer betrayal

The press is a "cancerous influence" on Harry and Meghan. Ah shure Gawd love 'em!

A very deliberate amd loaded phrasing particularly since two senior royals have recently had cancer. Imagine all the Cambridges listening to that to describe Harry and Meghan after Catherine enduring actual cancer while getting hounded by a media Spencer is critical of. Spencer comes across as an asshole to be honest and this further highlights a personal vendetta masked by grandstanding.

To be honest with you I would have more respect for Spencer if he was selling blowjobs for £20 a pop in Soho compared to what he’s currently doing. Street prostitution is a far, FAR more honorable and decent way of paying the bills than dragging up the corpse of your three decades dead estranged sister and waving it about for money, all whilst bulling an elderly man with cancer.

I mean, fuck me. Dante would have to invent a sub-basement to his ninth circle of hell to put Spencer in cos I’m not sure he could actually go any lower.

Well if there was any doubt they weren’t in cahoots before…

Off you fuck you prick

Can we take a moment to discuss the Spencer Family and what a show it must have been.

One sister married a guy a lot older than her - sometimes a sign of daddy issues

One sister had anorexia

One sister had bulimia and other mental health problems

The brother has been married 4 times

The mental health issues run deep through that family. If they lived on a council estate, they'd be the family you avoided.

No wonder Harry and Megan fell they fit in there!!!

jonathanlynch said:

The press is a "cancerous influence" on Harry and Meghan. Ah shure Gawd love 'em!

A very deliberate amd loaded phrasing particularly since two senior royals have recently had cancer. Imagine all the Cambridges listening to that to describe Harry and Meghan after Catherine enduring actual cancer while getting hounded by a media Spencer is critical of. Spencer comes across as an asshole to be honest and this further highlights a personal vendetta masked by grandstanding.

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Spencer made a conscious decision. He decided he was going to go for broke with this book. Throw out every nasty, mean and despicable thing he could come up with at King Charles and anyone else in the royal family. He knows his reputation was already in question, if not pretty low and it didn't matter to him as long as he could monetize it. He figures that dropping the dribs and drabs about KC3 in the DM would entice people to buy the book. A certain number of them will do that, but on the the whole, I think people are pretty disgusted. Those of us old enough to recall her death and the funeral, think "enough is enough.' She is dead, not coming back, and no reason to belabor it after almost 30 years. People back then formed an opinion, I know that I did. I had already begun to believe that she was on the road to being Euro trash and spending time with Dodi sealed that opinion. I thought that Charles did the proper thing by going to Paris with her sisters and his sadness over her death was very real. In all these decades my opinions have not changed. I don't think younger people care at this point as there are more pressing issues in the world to be concerned about.

I hate when people write shit about other people who are no longer around to have their say. Diana, Dodi, Mohammed al Fayed. It's sneaky, cowardly and immoral to make a quick buck with zero chance of any comeback.

Yep. Looks like William coped just fine.

CS is a heartless prick.

the picture in the car was the night before the funeral.

Earl Spencer didn't let Diana have the house she wanted because he didn't want press intrusion at his estate. What a selfish man he is!
He really didn't care much about her at all.
He says he offered her 100 other options which she turned down (probably because they were inferior homes).

Now he's praising Dodi Fayed for making Diana happy but she'd only known him for about a month. While Dodi was no doubt charming and attentive, he was also a cad on the make who already had a secret fiancé hidden away.

How short sighted CS and his equally repugnant nephew are. I've no doubt in my mind that Harry and Meghan knew what was in this shite book. I'm sure they had much to discuss during their alleged visit to Althorp. They all want to reek havoc for KC. Lest they forget that one day, not too far away, William will have his lovely, roundy, pert bottom on the throne with his Queen Catherine by his side. CS probably thinks he'll be dead by then so doesn't really give a shiny shite. Harry on the other hand, will be banished quicker than Camilla can say "another large gin please".

Three utterly narcissistic, turd embellished, parasitic, half witted knob jockies.

This is why Harold has been acting so smug. He probably dashed back to the UK with the asumption CS's book would shake the monarchy so much that it would create a way back in for him and his handler as saviours. What he doesn't realise is that this will only be another reason for people to dislike him. His father is in his 70s with cancer. Heartless Harold.

Charles Spencer has brought himself into the limelight and none of what has been shone on him is looking good. I'd forgotten what an utterly repulsive creature he is.

His 30th birthday party and with his wife Lockhart in attendance said that his father had advised him to find someone who would stick with him through thick and thin. He said: "Those of you who know Victoria know that she's thick, and she certainly is thin."

We know he was having affairs from the start of their marriage and we can't begin to imagine how cruel he was to her in private if he was happily saying this in public and had no concept of shame for himself or humilation for his wife.

I can't imagine anyone having an argument with CS would come out smelling of roses. As they say fight with pigs etc. CS plays dirty and is so arrogant that you'd have to be very high minded and fully composed (ie not in the midst of grief for your sons and the past) to not sink to his vindictive level for the duration of that conversation.

I think what is not often mentioned is that grief for someone you loved and they knew they were loved is one thing. But the grief for someone where the relationship was difficult and things were said that hurt both of you is different. There's a tension that exists forever between you but there's always the hope that in the future things will improve as you still do deep down love them but are unable to express it at that time.

That type of grief ie. when that future opportunity to resolve your differences and find peace is taken from you forever is a gaping hole of grief that can never be resolved. The anger doesn't subside and the anger is just directed elsewhere.

CS's guilt of how he treated Diana turned into condemnation of others to cover for his failures and opinions on whose grief he deems to be in the appropriate form and deep, long enough etc. The ones most at peace are the ones that were loved and knew they returned that love, neither Harry nor CS can cope with that fact. Harry would never have the relationship William had with Diana, Harry has no emotional depth to connect so it would never have been equal and he would always be jealous.

CS could no longer high handedly discredit Diana's mental health as he did prior to her death. We know her brother was untrustworthy and brought Bashir into her orbit, and Diana's paranoia were fed entirely by CS being duped by Bashir. William must be furious about CS's actions at that time.

Diana wasn't speaking to several people at the time of her death and I don't think all would have resolved their differences as she matured and kept them more at arm's length. However I think with KC the relationship was leading to a shared sense of having lived through it and an acceptance of events unfolding around them but havng children and wanting to ensure William was a good King one day, she took that responsibilty seriously. We all look back at our children's younger days and it is intense and you would have liked to do this and that differently, that's life. But to have it all discussed so publicly about conversations that happened a long time ago and not take a wider view is beyond repugnant and distasteful. There is no generosity of spirt with CS. I do really hope someone is planning on penning a book about him and his lies to Diana and his many wives and children, he absolutely deserves to have every conversation pored over in the press for the whole world to decide whether CS is truly someone that is Judge and Jury on Diana's life.

I hope this isn't true, but if it is, I really hope someone in authority steps in

Nelly's mum said:

Hi, I have a question

Why do some posters think H&M's children don't exist?
I thought this was just a running joke but it seems some posters actually believe this - is this just because they haven't published photos of their faces, 'moonbumps' and something to do with how the births were recorded/announced?
Maybe I've missed something, I've got to say it sounds kinda crazy 🫣

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I choose to believe they are fake because the alternative - that they have real children they constantly abandon for fake royal tours, who have never met their cousins or extended families, that they only take to deserted places after hours, that have parents who exhibit very worrying mental health behaviour, that they pulled out of school twice in a new country, that they only care about because of the blackmail potential for Charles or the titles the carry, that were named for pure spite - is too sad to imagine.

Charles Spencer is a lowlife twat and so is his nephew H, maybe sort your own shit out before flinging mud at others, hypocrites the lot of them.

Amiyaya said:

Yep. Looks like William coped just fine.

CS is a heartless prick.

the picture in the car was the night before the funeral.

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Oh that second photo made me well up. Poor boy. Many years ago my mum was seriously ill with cancer, I was 8 and my sister 13. People always felt sorry for me being the youngest but I’d argue it was much, much harder for my sister because she was worried about my mum, my dad and especially me - all at a very awkward, adolescant age

ToodliePips said:

Just a passing thought to ponder. The Wales children all have a great relationship with their paternal grandparents and their maternal grandparents. Such closeness cannot be achieved by calls, videos or texts but instead by spending time in each other’s company. They obviously manage to spend time with them without the need for a security convoy to get there and without it being announced to the public at large. That is how you can have a partial private life as a genuine Public Figure.
Further, if all these pictures ILBW dropped were supposed to be from their time in Uk (suggesting the Spencer’s gaff) then why wasn’t everything baked dry? Why were there puddles for the be-wellied flatpacks to jump in? Why were the parents wearing puffs or waxed jackets with boots when it was in 80 degree heat? Who in their right mind lights a fire in a grate a) in that heat and b) without a spark guard when a child is near it?

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Little Louis writing a card to hang on the tree at the Carol Service thanking his Middleton grandparents for playing games with him when his mother was so ill. It made me tear up. People think that small children don't understand what is going on. So wrong. Louis was clearing stating that he understood that his grandparents were trying to take his mind off his mother being sick and their care helped him cope with the situation. Maybe he couldn't completely verbalize this, but I certainly got his message loud and clear. I think he will be the closest to his mother in temperament.

Winning title with 71 likes by @HeskeyScored - with honourable mention to @SuperFlyingPigs whose " Harry & Meghan #603 This is not just any betrayal, this is a Spencer betrayal " was the inspiration for it.




Old thread here - https://tattle.life/threads/harry-and-meghan-602-we-are-all-sussexhausted.53449/

in which we discussed the non-sighting of any lesser-spotted Grifti-Grifti Lizards in the Cotswolds or Northants area and we also discussed Earl Spencer and his new book, plus much much more.

SeaBiscuit said:

No of course there was no trial or conviction, the victim was silenced and intimidated into not testifying by Chuck's solicitor Fiona Shackleton, on Chuck's direct orders.
The victim George Smith died young. It's all in the police report, and it only came to light at all because of the Burrell trial and Diana's sister pushing it because Diana's true accusations against Fawcett were ignored.

Fawcett's not been prosecuted of course and is free and still close to Chuck but below the radar.

Chuck's activities have been referred to the police and CPS many times but nothing came of them. Tom Bower said that Chuck was reckless and borderline as PoW but he's much more cautious now as King. However the things he did and the damage he caused can't be undone.

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There just seems to be so much flung around about this and accusations about the relationship between Fawcett and Charles which seem to be gossip feeding of gossip and now taken to be true,

I was acquainted with Debbie, Michael’s wife, at one time and am conscious that there are real people ( her and their children ) beyond the headlines who are deeply affected by this sort of narrative.

Absolute goon

Innocent Hamster said:

My suspicion is that sex for her is purely transactional - she uses it to get whatever she wants - and that's how she got through her yachting days when she'd let a person 'do anything'. Why would she 'lower herself' to a bodyguard? They don't have the megabucks or status she longs for.

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Because Diana did with one of hers?

Also nice of CS to only be concerned about the media coverage of the Harkles and not the viciousness that the Waleses went through when Catherine became ill. Or that Catherine's basically endured since she was little more than a teenager. That's more like what Diana went through. A pack of media hyenas following a young woman through the streets of London.

I just don't believe that Harry wasn't fully aware of the contents of the book.

The timing of his return and the failure of his and Elton & Co's attempts to silence the press for the sake of their personal brand (ie. hypocricy) is too convenient.

Harry's return comes after that failed Court case and Smeg puts out mega conflicting information to the press to create drama to feed into their psycho drama about security and about press intrusion etc.

Hugh Grant etc are all in cahoots (we saw him up at Makerfield with Andy Burnham just recently). They are working behind the scenes to try to prevent the press being able to report what is in the public interest. So the whole media circus is H&M trying to play their part but unfortunately no-one is interested and the rent a crowd mob just didn't turn up for Harry. The kids in those clips didn't have a clue who he was really, he and Smeg are perma frozen in the past and forget that everyone else moves on with their lives.

Just a passing thought to ponder. The Wales children all have a great relationship with their paternal grandparents and their maternal grandparents. Such closeness cannot be achieved by calls, videos or texts but instead by spending time in each other’s company. They obviously manage to spend time with them without the need for a security convoy to get there and without it being announced to the public at large. That is how you can have a partial private life as a genuine Public Figure.
Further, if all these pictures ILBW dropped were supposed to be from their time in Uk (suggesting the Spencer’s gaff) then why wasn’t everything baked dry? Why were there puddles for the be-wellied flatpacks to jump in? Why were the parents wearing puffs or waxed jackets with boots when it was in 80 degree heat? Who in their right mind lights a fire in a grate a) in that heat and b) without a spark guard when a child is near it?

Nelly's mum said:

Hi, I have a question

Why do some posters think H&M's children don't exist?
I thought this was just a running joke but it seems some posters actually believe this - is this just because they haven't published photos of their faces, 'moonbumps' and something to do with how the births were recorded/announced?
Maybe I've missed something, I've got to say it sounds kinda crazy 🫣

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I can only speak for myself to say I think there is something odd about the children because the Meghans did not follow protocol for the births which seems stupid because they did not need to take photos, stand on the steps of maternity hospitals etc just have the documentation in place that prooves to British citizens the children are rightfully in the LOS. if they have the proofs why not demonstrate it, why all the cloak and dagger stuff? It seems a deliberate stirring of the pot so until the Meghans produce the goods I will be a refusenik because I‘m British and therefore born awkward.